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- From: destiny@crl.com (David Cassel)
- Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks
- Subject: Re: The August Letter from Case
- Date: 6 Aug 1995 13:22:32 -0700
-
- Steve Case is lying.
-
- >From this week's "In, Around and Online":
-
- Steve Case's 15 Seconds of Shame
- ================================
- Last week, I wrote about AOL's billing practices as brought up in a law
- suit by Palo Alto attorney, Stephen Hagen. In the piece, I theorized
- that the problem was that a couple of years ago, America Online began
- adding a 15 second fluff factor to ensure that they could bill for the
- first minute. At some point prior to two years ago, members could sign
- on for a brief period of time and sign right back off without being
- billed. The problem for AOL is that they are be billed by their network
- providers for that time. In this month's letter to the subscribers from
- Steve Case, he validated the "15 second fluff" theory:
-
-
- "Your session begins when the local modem connection is first made. The
- elapsed time from the moment the connection is made to the moment the
- "welcome" screen appears, and from the moment you "sign off" to the
- moment the connection is broken, is about 15 seconds."
-
-
- To quote John McGlaughlin of the McGlaughlin Group: "WRONG!"
-
-
- Well, it isn't exactly wrong. I appreciate that Mr. Case at least has
- come clean with this much. But, it isn't exactly right either.
-
-
- At one point, it probably was 15 seconds. In some instances, 15 seconds
- may still be the right number, but it definitely isn't the right number
- for all instances.
-
-
- In quick testing with Windows AOL 2.5, the time it took between logging
- on, "checking password" and hitting the "Welcome" screen ranged from 1-
- 8 seconds depending on the network used, and the type of connection.
- Adding in the time that it takes between signing off to the AOL
- "Goodbye", the total "network" time ranged from 2-10 seconds. Now, I
- will admit, that 10 seconds isn't all that far from 15 seconds and it is
- really just a matter of degrees. But remember, sometimes it is 2
- seconds.
-
-
- Mr. Case also admits that they round up to the next minute, a very
- common telecommunications practice. It is. Even though Prodigy doesn't
- do it, and even though it appears that CompuServe rounds up only after
- 30 seconds. While AOL _is_ a telecommunications company, their
- competition is not the long distance service companies, it's CompuServe,
- Prodigy and the up and coming services. But, here, the customers should
- decide. I think AOL is a better service today than either CompuServe or
- Prodigy and the 15 seconds of overhead for network time doesn't affect
- most users as most don't go over their allotted 5 hours of "free" time.
- For those people, the 15 seconds is not an issue.
-
- Consider this though -- via a TCP/IP connection, the elapsed "network"
- time between signon and welcome, and signoff and goodbye is about 2
- seconds. Which, in seconds, is not all that close to 15. According to
- Steve Case, TCP/IP logons make up less than %1 of the accesses to AOL.
- I can buy that, but it doesn't appear that 15 seconds is the typical
- "network time" and since AOL doesn't pay time charges for AOLNet, and
- TCP/IP accesses, the 15 seconds is irrelevant as the charges AOL incurs
- for those networks are fixed. AOL doesn't pay for those networks on a
- "time" basis.
-
- Whether the customers should actually pay for the time of the connection
- will probably be a subject of much debate. If I call someone long
- distance in this day and age, I don't pay for the call if it rings 5
- times and nobody answers, but I used the network.
-
- Steve Case can't have it both ways. If he wants to be able to round up
- to the next minute because that is a common telecommunications practice,
- then he should stick with the rest of the common telecommunications
- practices and only bill customers from "Welcome" to "Good-bye".
-
- If the only thing AOL can do to ensure that they don't lose in the deal
- is to tack on a some number of seconds of overhead, 15 seconds isn't the
- right number. It seems to me that if someone loses, it should be AOL
- and not the customers who are affected by this.
-
- [...]
-
- In his monthly letter, Case also said that AOL is evaluating methods to
- accurately inform you of what you'll actually be billed on the "Good-
- bye" screen. But accurately displaying what a customer will be billed
- is not the same thing as billing a customer accurately.
-
- If Mr. Case wants to bill his customers for the network time AOL is
- charged, he'll have to figure out a way to charge for that accurately.
-
- SOURCE:
- "In, Around and Online"-A Weekly Summary of Consumer Online Services
- Robert Seidman http://www.clark.net:80/pub/robert/home.html
-