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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue,  1 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  10

Today's Topics:
                Administrivia
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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1988  21:58 MST
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Subject: Administrivia

SIMTEL20's official host name has been changed to WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL.
Please be sure to use the new name when you post to mailing lists here.

--Keith Petersen
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon, 31 Oct 88       Volume 88 : Issue   9

Today's Topics:
             OH Digital Symposium
             packet and Apple IIC
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Date: 28 Oct 88 02:19:55 GMT
From: att!osu-cis!n8emr![e-mail]  (Gary Sanders )
Subject: OH Digital Symposium

Sorry to Post to the USA, but dont have a way to post to Ohio, Indiana,
West Virginia, Kentucky areas...

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CALL FOR PAPERS:  THIRD ANNUAL SOUTHWEST OHIO DIGITAL SYMPOSIUM

The Third Annual Southwest Ohio Digital Symposium will be held at Miami
University in Middletown, Ohio, on January 7, 1989.  The symposium is
hosted by the Engineering Department of Miami University and is
co-sponsored by the Ohio Packet Council, Inc.  Schedule is tentative, but
the symposium should start at about 0930 EST with two or more concurrent
sessions running until 1530 EST.

The program is being formulated at this time, so your ideas and suggestions
are cordially solicited.  Please send them to the program chairman, Hank
Greeb, N8XX, via packet radio @ KC8TW or via CompuServe, user ID 72277,706.

from Hank Greeb, N8XX, via CompuServe's HamNet

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           THIRD ANNUAL SOUTHWEST OHIO DIGITAL SYMPOSIUM

TheTThird Annual Southwest Ohio Digital Symposium will be held on January
7, 1989.  Topics of interest will include:

          Beginner's Packet Session
          Display & Demo of several hardware/software/TNC combinations,
          including (hopefully) Commodore, Apple, IBM-PC,
          Tandy 100/200, etc.
          History of Digital Modes, from Spark to Packet
          The DX Cluster Board - by Jay Slough, K4ZLE
          Networking - Next Steps
          Multi-tasking W0RLI BBS software for the XT/AT
          Other topics to be determined

It will be held in Thesken Hall, on the Middletown Campus of Miami
University, Middletown, Ohio, with talk-in on 146.01/61 MHz.  Registration
and coffee will begin at 9:00 a.m., with first sessions at 9:30 a.m. and
ending about 3:30 p.m.  It is hosted by the Engineering Technology
Department of Miami University and the Ohio Packet Council, Inc.  There is
no admission charge nor registration fee.

Lunch will be on a pay-as-you-go basis, with several restaurants within a
mile of the campus.

Any topics pertaining to digital modes (SPARK, CW, RTTY, AMTOR, Packet,
etc.) are within the scope of the symposium.  The program is being
formulated at this time, so your ideas and suggestions are cordially
solicited.  Please send them to the program chairman, Hank Greeb, N8XX, via
packet radio @ KC8TW or by mail to 6580 Dry Ridge Road, Cincinnati, Ohio
45252.

                  For further clarification or questions
                  contact Hank Greeb, N8XX, at the above
                  address or telephone [phone]

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Date: Tue 25 Oct 88 10:43:18-EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: packet and Apple IIC

I am considering the purchase of a PK232 for use with my Apple IIC on packet/
rtty/cw.  I realize that I could use and communtication program with the
interface but a specialized packet/rtty/cw program with features like split
screen, etc. sure would be nice!  Does anyone know of such a program or where
I might get one?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.



                    73,
                    Joe - WD2F


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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Thu,  3 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  11

Today's Topics:
               gateway 10/21/88
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Date: 31 Oct 88 18:11:17 GMT
From: ulysses!thumper!ka9q.bellcore.com![e-mail]
Subject: gateway 10/21/88

Ah hem. I know the idea of reducing RFI through software sounds amusing,
but there actually *is* something to this.

Much of the RFI generated by many computers is affected by the level of CPU
activity. Bus activity, memory activity, etc, all cease when the CPU halts.
Most communications programs have plenty of excess CPU capacity, so if you
simply halt the CPU when it's not doing anything, you can reduce the average
RFI level considerably over a program that perpetually "busy waits" for
something to happen.

This is fairly easy to do in interrupt driven programs. Most "halt"
instructions "fall through" (i.e., resume executing code) after an interrupt
is taken, so they are really "wait for an interrupt" instructions.

Unfortunately, on my machine at least, most of the remaining RFI is
generated by the video monitor, and this is a function of the amount of text
on the screen, not the level of CPU activity.

Phil

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Thu,  3 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  12

Today's Topics:
            USA Packet Radio By State/Type
            USA Packet Stats by Frequency
             WW Packet Status by Country
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 88 15:52:26 EST
From: D H Bennett AMCRM-FTM  <[e-mail]>
Subject: USA Packet Radio By State/Type

        Recap of USA Stats
         As of 11-02-1988
         by K4NGC

The following is a computed recap of the
WWPACKET.DBF file I maintain for the United
States. It reflects the number and type of
activities by state. If you have any changes
to this file please address them to K4NGC
@ K4NGC.

State            PBBS  DIGI  TOTAL  PERCENT
---------------- ----  ----  -----  -------
Alabama            17    24    41     1.61%
Alaska              6     8    14     0.55%
Arizona            37    23    60     2.36%
Arkansas           13    18    31     1.22%
California        125    99   224     8.81%
Colorado           37    71   108     4.25%
Connecticut        13    19    32     1.26%
Delaware            3     3     6     0.24%
Dist of Columbia    0     2     2     0.08%
Florida            64    94   158     6.22%
Georgia            28    25    53     2.08%
Guam                0     0     0     0.00%
Hawaii              9    10    19     0.75%
Idaho               2     7     9     0.35%
Illinois           26    34    60     2.36%
Indiana            39    59    98     3.86%
Iowa               20    31    51     2.01%
Kansas             15    13    28     1.10%
Kentucky           16    41    57     2.24%
Louisiana          17     5    22     0.87%
Maine               8     9    17     0.67%
Maryland           44    51    95     3.74%
Massachusetts      36    34    70     2.75%
Michigan           30    17    47     1.85%
Minnesota          13     9    22     0.87%
Mississippi        11     6    17     0.67%
Missouri           17    41    58     2.28%
Montana             6    13    19     0.75%
Nebraska           11    17    28     1.10%
Nevada              1    14    15     0.59%
New Hampshire      14    14    28     1.10%
New Jersey         63    36    99     3.89%
New Mexico         17    17    34     1.34%
New York           80    71   151     5.94%
North Carolina     23    26    49     1.93%
North Dakota        6     5    11     0.43%
Ohio               52    57   109     4.29%
Oklahoma           14    26    40     1.57%
Oregon              7     9    16     0.63%
Pennsylvania       57    50   107     4.21%
Puerto Rico         0     0     0     0.00%
Rhode Island        4     4     8     0.31%
South Carolina     13    14    27     1.06%
South Dakota        3    11    14     0.55%
Tennessee          20    18    38     1.49%
Texas              45    18    63     2.48%
Utah                9    32    41     1.61%
Vermont            10     5    15     0.59%
Virginia           38    59    97     3.82%
Virgin Islands      0     0     0     0.00%
Washington         22    20    42     1.65%
West Virginia       5    12    17     0.67%
Wisconsin          25    25    50     1.97%
Wyoming             7    16    23     0.90%
         ----  ----  ----  --------
Total            1199  1342  2542   100.00%

The WWPACKET.DBF files are available on my
LandLine Bulletin Board to all who want it.
My Landline BBS telephone number is 703-680-5970.
These files are in text, ARC and dBase formats.

Don Bennett (K4NGC)
15016 Carlsbad Road
Woodbridge, Va 22193
(Home) 703-670-4773
(Work) 703-274-9355/56
(LLBBS) 703-680-5970
(ARPANET) [e-mail]
(Packet) K4NGC @ K4NGC


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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 88 15:53:08 EST
From: D H Bennett AMCRM-FTM  <[e-mail]>
Subject: USA Packet Stats by Frequency

        Recap of USA Stats
         As of 11-02-1988
         by K4NGC

The following is a computed recap of the
WWPACKET.DBF file I maintain for the United
States. It reflects the number and type of
activities by Frequency. If you have any changes
to this file please address them to K4NGC
@ K4NGC.

Frequency         DIGI     PBBS    TOTAL   PERCENT
----------------  ----     ----    -----   -------
   7.0910 Mhz        0        3        3     0.12%
   7.0930 Mhz        1       25       26     1.02%
   7.0940 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
   7.0970 Mhz        0        6        6     0.24%
   7.9300 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
  10.1450 Mhz        0        0        0     0.04%
  10.1473 Mhz        0        1        1     0.59%
  10.1490 Mhz        0       15       15     0.59%
  14.0700 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
  14.1030 Mhz        1        4        5     0.20%
  14.1050 Mhz        1        3        4     0.16%
  14.1070 Mhz        0       30       30     1.18%
  14.1090 Mhz        0       25       25     0.98%
  14.1110 Mhz        0       28       28     1.10%
  14.1115 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
  14.1490 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
  28.1050 Mhz        0        5        5     0.20%
  28.1490 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
  28.2750 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
  50.0900 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
  51.1200 Mhz        4        0        4     0.16%
 144.0100 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 144.1100 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 144.5100 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 144.7600 Mhz        1        1        2     0.08%
 144.9100 Mhz        4        3        7     0.28%
 144.9300 Mhz        5       11       16     0.63%
 144.9500 Mhz        6        8       14     0.55%
 144.9700 Mhz        3       14       17     0.67%
 144.9900 Mhz        3        9       12     0.47%
 145.0000 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.0100 Mhz      788      463     1251    49.21%
 145.0300 Mhz       58       61      119     4.68%
 145.0500 Mhz      127      123      250     9.83%
 145.0700 Mhz       59       68      127     5.00%
 145.0900 Mhz       66       78      144     5.66%
 145.1100 Mhz        1        5        6     0.24%
 145.1500 Mhz        1        3        4     0.16%
 145.3300 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.3500 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 145.3600 Mhz        4        9       13     0.51%
 145.5100 Mhz        5        0        5     0.20%
 145.5500 Mhz        3        1        4     0.16%
 145.5550 Mhz        2        1        3     0.12%
 145.5700 Mhz        1        2        3     0.12%
 145.5900 Mhz        5        1        6     0.24%
 145.6100 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.6500 Mhz        3        1        4     0.16%
 145.6600 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 145.6700 Mhz        7        3       10     0.39%
 145.9300 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.9700 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.0700 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.1300 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.1450 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 146.7000 Mhz        0        2        2     0.08%
 146.7300 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.7450 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.9800 Mhz        1        1        2     0.08%
 147.0100 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 147.4800 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 147.4900 Mhz        2        2        4     0.16%
 147.5400 Mhz        1        2        3     0.12%
 147.5550 Mhz       14        7       21     0.83%
 147.5600 Mhz        1        1        2     0.08%
 147.7000 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 149.0900 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 220.0100 Mhz        0        2        2     0.08%
 220.0600 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 220.4500 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 220.5200 Mhz        0        3        3     0.12%
 220.5300 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 220.5500 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 220.5700 Mhz       24        3       27     1.06%
 220.9500 Mhz        9        1       10     0.39%
 221.0100 Mhz       20       21       41     1.61%
 221.1000 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 221.1100 Mhz       21       41       62     2.44%
 223.4000 Mhz        3        3        6     0.24%
 223.4200 Mhz        5        6       11     0.43%
 223.5000 Mhz        2        2        4     0.16%
 223.5800 Mhz       11       18       29     1.14%
 223.7000 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 433.8000 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 438.0000 Mhz        2        0        2     0.08%
 441.0000 Mhz        6       19       25     0.98%
 441.5000 Mhz        3        2        5     0.20%
 441.9000 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
 443.8000 Mhz        3        1        4     0.16%
 445.5500 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 446.0500 Mhz        1        1        2     0.08%
 446.1000 Mhz        0        2        2     0.08%
 446.8000 Mhz        1        9       10     0.39%
 446.8200 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 448.4000 Mhz        2        0        2     0.08%
1297.5000 Mhz        0        0        0     0.00%
         ------   ------   ------
TOTAL             1342     1199     2542   100.00%

The WWPACKET.DBF files are available on my
LandLine Bulletin Board to all who want it.
My Landline BBS telephone number is 703-680-5970.
These files are in text, ARC and dBase formats.

Don Bennett (K4NGC)
15016 Carlsbad Road
Woodbridge, Va 22193
(Home) 703-670-4773
(Work) 703-274-9355/56
(LLBBS) 703-680-5970
(ARPANET) [e-mail]
(Packet) K4NGC @ K4NGC


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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 88 15:51:39 EST
From: D H Bennett AMCRM-FTM  <[e-mail]>
Subject: WW Packet Status by Country

           Recap of  WWPACKET
        As of 11-02-1988
            by K4NGC

The following is a computed recap of the WWPACKET
file I maintain.  It shows the number and type of
activities  by country.   If you have any changes
to  the  WWPACKET files please  address  them  to
K4NGC @ K4NGC.

State             PBBS    DIGI   TOTAL   Percent
---------------  ------  ------  ------  -------
Argentina             1       0       1    0.03%
Austria               4       0       4    0.12%
Australia            23       0      23    0.69%
Belgium               5       0       5    0.15%
Bolivia               0       0       0    0.00%
Brazil                0       0       0    0.00%
Bulgaria              0       0       0    0.00%
Burma                 0       0       0    0.00%
Canada               94      16     110    3.28%
Cayman Islands        1       0       1    0.03%
Chile                 0       0       0    0.00%
Columbia              8      13      21    0.63%
Costa Rica            1       0       1    0.03%
Cyprus                0       0       0    0.00%
Czechoslovakia        0       0       0    0.00%
Denmark              10       0      10    0.30%
Domin Republic        0       0       0    0.00%
Ecuador               1       0       1    0.03%
Egypt                 0       0       0    0.00%
El Salvador           0       0       0    0.00%
Fiji                  0       0       0    0.00%
Finland              18      19      37    1.10%
France                9       9      18    0.54%
Great Britain       151       0     151    4.51%
Guatemala             0       0       0    0.00%
Guernsey Island       0       0       0    0.00%
Honduras              0       0       0    0.00%
Hungary               4       4       8    0.24%
Iceland               2       0       2    0.06%
India                 0       0       0    0.00%
Indonesia            16       0      16    0.48%
Ireland               3       0       3    0.09%
Israel                1       0       1    0.03%
Italy                20       5      25    0.75%
Jamaica               0       0       0    0.00%
Japan               149       6     155    4.63%
Luxembourg            0       1       1    0.03%
Malta                 0       0       0    0.00%
Mexico                1       0       1    0.03%
Monaco                0       0       0    0.00%
N. Ireland            0       0       0    0.00%
Netherlands          14       0      14    0.42%
Nicaraqua             0       0       0    0.00%
Norway               15       1      16    0.48%
New Zealand           1       0       1    0.03%
Panama                0       0       0    0.00%
Paraguay              0       0       0    0.00%
Peru                  0       0       0    0.00%
Philippines          12       0      12    0.36%
Poland                0       0       0    0.00%
Portugal              0       0       0    0.00%
Romania               0       0       0    0.00%
Scotland              0       0       0    0.00%
South Africa         12      13      25    0.75%
South Korea           0       0       0    0.00%
Spain                 6       0       6    0.18%
Sweden               19       0      19    0.57%
Switzerland           1       0       1    0.03%
Uruguay               0       0       0    0.00%
United States     1,199   1,342   2,541   75.85%
USSR                  0       0       0    0.00%
Venezuela             1       0       1    0.03%
West Germany         21      57      78    2.33%
Yugoslavia            6      23      29    0.87%
         ------  ------  ------  -------
Total             1,840   1,509   3,350  100.00%

The  WWPACKET files is available on my Land  Line
BBS  to all who want it.  The BBS Number is  703-
680-5970.  Its in text and dBASE formats.

Don Bennett (K4NGC)
15016 Carlsbad Road
Woodbridge, Va 22193 USA
(Home) 703-670-4773
(Work) 703-274-9355/56
(BBS)  703-680-5970
(ARPANET) [e-mail]

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sat,  5 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  13

Today's Topics:
         Antenna suggestions/ books? (2 msgs)
               Do I really need a TNC?
           gateway 10/21/88 (actually, RFI)
                Quality-number
                WICAT computer
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Date: 4 Nov 88 05:42:06 GMT
From: pioneer.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]  (Charles Guest RCE)
Subject: Antenna suggestions/ books?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Simon Tortike) writes:
>I recently bought a Sony ICF-SW1 radio, which comes with a small active
>antenna and controller.  I live in an apartment and find that even with
>the active antenna by the window (I'm on the fifth floor), reception
>varies from moderate to poor.  Could someone recommend a book or
>magazine
>article to guide me in setting up a better antenna for the radio?

The ARRL produces an "antenna Handbook".  This deals with numerous
different antennae of all sizes, of course the whole book would not be
of intrest but many of the designs could help you.

Also there is a magazine for 'monitoring enthusiasts' that is called
Popular Communications which I highly reccomend.  Every once in a while
they deal with the problem that you speak of in either thier letters
section or in a full blown article.  You would do well to look into back
issues of this publication.

>Is attaching the radio antenna to the TV antenna assembly on the roof
>of the building of any use, or even dangerous?  Two outlets from this
>are on one of my walls.

I am not exactly certain what the question here is....if you are asking
if you could attach an antenna to the TV mast seperately, (for your SW
reciever), then I dont believe that there would be any problem.  If on
the other hand you are talking about hooking up your SW to the TV
antenna itself I would give you two items to consider.
A) I suspect that many apartments use a booster/preamp to boost the
antenna signal.  If you hooked up your SW to this it is _possible_ that
you could overload the sensitive SW reciever, at least causing poor
reception and at most damaging the receiver.
B) The range of frequencies that you are attempting to listen to is
between 1.6 mcs and 30 mcs.  TV antennas are cut for a resonant
frequency FAR above this 30 mhz limit.  In other words the TV antenna
would not properly pick up the signals that you were trying to recieve.
In addition (someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong), the TV antenna is
fed off of 72 ohm coax or twinlead whereas the SW normally takes 50 ohm
between it and the antenna.  The affect is not quite as bad as a dead
short but it does severely limit the recieve capacity of your radio.

In the absence of any other solutions you could run some copper wire
around the inside of the edges of your celing and hook that into your
radio.  Not great but better than 'nuthin.

I hope you really enjoy your shortwave.....I was given my first
introduction to it many years ago when a friends father gave me an old
Hallicrafters SX62 reciever.  It weighed 200,000:-) pounds and went through
7f8 tubes quickly but I LOVED the ability to hear the whole world.
You Will Too-

                Good Luck and post back your
                accomplishments
                        CJG

PS> NO signal/foreign radio broadcast/ship to shore call/or propaganda
message is worth your life.  Please be carefull when you work on your
antenna or erect a new one.  Watch the power lines and assure that there
is NO power going into any mast/antenna setup near where you are
working.



I do not claim to be an expert....get advice from a local when you
begin your work.  I claim no responsibility.




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Date: 3 Nov 88 20:58:35 GMT
From: att!alberta![e-mail]  (Simon Tortike)
Subject: Antenna suggestions/ books?

I recently bought a Sony ICF-SW1 radio, which comes with a small active
antenna and controller.  I live in an apartment and find that even with
the active antenna by the window (I'm on the fifth floor), reception
varies from moderate to poor.  Could someone recommend a book or
magazine
article to guide me in setting up a better antenna for the radio?
Is attaching the radio antenna to the TV antenna assembly on the roof
of the building of any use, or even dangerous?  Two outlets from this
are on one of my walls.  (I am listening to national SW broadcasts.)
Thanks for any help,
-------------------
Simon Tortike, Department of Mining, Metallurgical and Petroleum Engineering,
The University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB, CANADA T6G 2G6.
UUCP: alberta!simon  |  BITNET: stortike@ualtavm  |  AGT: [phone]

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Date: 3 Nov 88 20:44:40 GMT
From: att!mtuxo!mtuxj![e-mail]  (Thomas E. Kenny)
Subject: Do I really need a TNC?

I'm thinking of getting into packet. I have a computer, I have a 2 meter
HT and I have a modem! I was wondering if I really need a TNC! Can I just
wire up a little PTT interface (with watchdog) for the computer and do
the AX.25 and even the TNC commands in software? Has anybody done this?
Am I crazy? (2 seperate questions :-) I'd appreciate any advise on this
poor mans version of getting into packet... KB2GLO/KT

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Date: 3 Nov 88 17:54:07 GMT
From: cadnetix.COM!cadnetix![e-mail]  (Rusty)
Subject: gateway 10/21/88 (actually, RFI)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Phil R. Karn) writes:
>Ah hem. I know the idea of reducing RFI through software sounds amusing,
>but there actually *is* something to this.

<Much interesting stuff, read it yourself :->

>Unfortunately, on my machine at least, most of the remaining RFI is
>generated by the video monitor, and this is a function of the amount of text
>on the screen, not the level of CPU activity.
>
>Phil

Ah, yes, but what about clearing the screen?  Keep the info in memory
so it can be re-displayed, but clear the screen.

Or just wait for the screenblank time to expire so you have
a totally blank screen.  (Or variations on that theme)
-----
Rusty Carruth   UUCP: {uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!rusty  DOMAIN: [e-mail]
Cadnetix Corp.  [phone]x296 \  5775 Flatiron Pkwy. \ Boulder, Co 80301
Radio: N7IKQ    'home': P.O.B. 461 \  Lafayette, CO 80026

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Date: 1 Nov 88 18:06 +0100
From: Magne Maehre <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quality-number

Can anyone give an explanation of the Quality-number used by
NetROM (ush!) and TheNET?? What says that it should be 192 on
a half-duplex 1200bps radio-link and 255 on a RS-232 link??
On remote nodes you see that your local node has a low q-number,
what makes a node to decrease this number??

73 de Magne LA1BFA

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[e-mail]          !
m_maehre%avh.unit.uninett%         !     " I don't need a repeater "
  [e-mail]   !
AVH::M_MAEHRE                      !
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Date: 2 Nov 88 17:04 +0100
From: Magne Maehre <[e-mail]>
Subject: WICAT computer

Would like to get in contact with any who has knowledge to the
WICAT system 150 (156) running UNIX or MCS.  Our MONSTER works fine
under MCS, but we have   B I G  problems with the UNIX (Sys III).
We are about to implement Phil's TCP-IP on it and need some info
on setting up the system properly.

      -Magne     LA1BFA @LA8GE     .141.7.2|
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[e-mail]          !
m_maehre%avh.unit.uninett%         !     " Lets's stamp out QRP! "
  [e-mail]   !
AVH::M_MAEHRE                      !
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 6-Nov-88 03:38:38-MST,3082;000000000000
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #14
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sun,  6 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  14

Today's Topics:
               Online Callbook (2 msgs)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 88 03:58:01 GMT
From: att!whuts!homxb!hotps!ka2qhd![e-mail]  (Jim Dockery {OEM/ARRL} Kinnelon NJ)
Subject: Online Callbook

The first PBBS that comes to mind in supplying online callbook services
is WA4ONG in Richmond, VA.  His data is contained on a CD-ROM supplied
by Buckmaster Publishing.

To request a US Callbook address, note, US ONLY, you may use the
following packet BBS commands on any standard PBBS.

   SP  REQQTH @ WA4ONG
   call1,call2,call3 yourcall
   /ex

The list of calls requested is placed in the title line and the last call
cal be either your own call, if you are a recognized PBBS or the @bbs of
the system you wish it to be sent to.

Hope this helps.

73, Jim WB2HBZ
--
Return mail via:                                     PACKET: wb2hbz@wb2hbz
UUCP: rutgers!petsd!tsdiag!ka2qhd!wb2hbz  or UUCP: att!hotps!ka2qhd!wb2hbz

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Date: 2 Nov 88 22:07:01 GMT
From: cadnetix.COM!cadnetix![e-mail]  (Rusty)
Subject: online callbook

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John DeArmond) writes:
>
>Does anybody out there in netland know if anybody is running an online
>callbook service?  Either online for packet or dialup?  If not, would
>anybody be interested?
>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve M Kile) writes:
>There is an on-line callbook presently available on the WD0GNK PBBS in
>Rochester, MN.  They are using the Buckmaster callbook on CD ROM.
>


Well, there are at least 2 people I know of who are planning what I
understand to be that very thing after they get the callsign on tape
from our group buy.  (Whos checks I have sent in).  Once things
calm down (i.e., when the tape finally gets distributed, and everyone
has had time to fool around with the data), I figure we will hear
from those who plan to set up a nameserver, if for no other reason
than to pool resources.

If you don't know about the callsign project (oh, come on now, SURELY
EVERYBODY knows about it by now!), email me and I will send you the
'readers digest condensed' information on it :-). (RD is TM by someone)

Also, see the posting in rec.ham-radio for an update on the callsign
on tape project.
-----
Rusty Carruth   UUCP: {uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!rusty  DOMAIN: [e-mail]
Cadnetix Corp.  [phone]x296 \  5775 Flatiron Pkwy. \ Boulder, Co 80301
Radio: N7IKQ    'home': P.O.B. 461 \  Lafayette, CO 80026

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Date: Mon,  7 Nov 88 01:30:31 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #15
To: [e-mail]

PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon,  7 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  15

Today's Topics:
               Do I really need a TNC?
               gateway 10/21/88
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 4 Nov 88 22:01:58 GMT
From: mkunix..DEC.COM!jfcl.dec.com![e-mail]  (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Do I really need a TNC?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas E. Kenny) writes:
>I'm thinking of getting into packet. I have a computer, I have a 2 meter
>HT and I have a modem! I was wondering if I really need a TNC! Can I just
>wire up a little PTT interface (with watchdog) for the computer and do
>the AX.25 and even the TNC commands in software? Has anybody done this?
>Am I crazy? (2 seperate questions :-) I'd appreciate any advise on this
>poor mans version of getting into packet... KB2GLO/KT

No, you don't need a discrete-box TNC, but you need _something_.  Almost
all packet operation uses some form of HDLC framing, and you just
can't do HDLC at any reasonable speed (or at all, sometimes) with
anything BUT special hardware.  If your computer is a PClone, though,
you can buy or build an HDLC interface and then do the rest of AX.25
in software, or do any higher layers too.

HAPN (Hamilton, Ont. Area Packet Network) is a club whose TNC-card for
the PC has been written up in ham radio magazine.  There are also some
commercial ones.  Phil Karn's (ka9q) TCP/IP code supports HAPN and
probably some other boards, so you can do TCP/IP and AX.25 using it
or other software.

For the record, I've proposed going to a non-HDLC layer 2, so you don't
ever need a TNC, but it's still in the early talking stages (a802.txt
on ucsd.edu's /hamradio repository).
    fred k1io (hdlc? just say NO)

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Date: 3 Nov 88 14:12:13 GMT
From: asuvax!anasaz![e-mail]  (John Moore)
Subject: gateway 10/21/88

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Phil R. Karn) writes:
]Ah hem. I know the idea of reducing RFI through software sounds amusing,
]but there actually *is* something to this.
]
]Much of the RFI generated by many computers is affected by the level of CPU
]activity. Bus activity, memory activity, etc, all cease when the CPU halts.
]Most communications programs have plenty of excess CPU capacity, so if you
]simply halt the CPU when it's not doing anything, you can reduce the average
]RFI level considerably over a program that perpetually "busy waits" for
]something to happen.

Not only that, frequently the EMI is dependent on what instruction
sequence the computer is executing. I have an MFJ-1274 (sigh) that
radiates right on one of the WEFAX frequencies, but ONLY when it
is WEFAX mode!

If the CPU is running a tight loop (which most personal computers spend
99% of their time doing), it will have a fundamental frequency
with lots of harmonics. You may find carriers all over the place.
Let it do something complex, and you end up with spread spectrum
RFI - the noise comes out as white noise rather than carriers. Often
this is enough to bring it below the noise level and you are no
longer bothered. Try it sometime if you have an RFI'ing computer -
you will notice that some RFI "ticks" every time you hit a keystroke.
Other RFI is only present during disk activity. Some carriers
disappear completely as soon as you run a program. Unfortunately,
some (usually harmonics of the master clock) don't change at all.
--
John Moore (NJ7E)           {decvax, ncar, ihnp4}!noao!nud!anasaz!john
[phone] (day or eve) {gatech, ames, rutgers}!ncar!...
The opinions expressed here are obviously not mine, so they must be
someone else's. :-)

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Date: Tue,  8 Nov 88 01:30:32 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #16
To: [e-mail]

PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue,  8 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  16

Today's Topics:
         dialup slip into NewEngland AMPRNET
                 link quality
              vk2sg rtty report 11/4/88
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 2 Nov 88 15:40:16 est
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: dialup slip into NewEngland AMPRNET

CEO summary:
Access to the NewEngland area amprnet is now available, 24 hours a
day via dialup slip in Worcester, MA. The tel. # is 508-753-9059 and
the port is running 1200,N,8,1.  The local host is wa1vvt and his
IPADDR is 44.56.0.139. ONLY amprnet hosts with iparrds outside of
44.44, 44.52, and 44.56 are allowed access, as the routing tables are
currently set.  I believe there is a local access number for
pc-pursuit in Worcester.  OK you TCP/IP types, give us a call
sometime! If you log on to wa1vvt and snoop around you should find
info on who is active on the various LANs. 73s de jim@ae1c alias
[e-mail]1c

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Date: Mon, 07 Nov 88 09:53:58 MEZ
From: [e-mail]
Subject: link quality

------------------------------

>From: Magne Maehre <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Quality-number

>Can anyone give an explanation of the Quality-number used by
>NetROM (ush]) and TheNET?? What says that it should be 192 on
>a half-duplex 1200bps radio-link and 255 on a RS-232 link??

The quality has to be interpreted as a decimal value of an
8-bit-notation of the reliability of the corresponding link which
says 255 is 100 % good ( no retries, no collisions ) 0 is 0% means
no xfers possible.
This quality has to be defined by the site-operator of the digi,
depending on what he has monitored on this special link. In future
releases of TheNet it might be calculated automaticaly. But this is
mostly a problem of the available EPROM space.

Every node multiplies the received quality marks with the quality to the
next node so the quality mark decreases with increasing number of
the nodes in between.

73s Detlef ( DK4EG @ DK0MAV )
,

------------------------------

Date: 7 Nov 88 11:47:00 GMT
From: osu-cis!n8emr![e-mail]  (Gary Sanders )
Subject: vk2sg rtty report 11/4/88

==============================================================
|               Relayed from packet radio via                |
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-457-4227 (1200/2400/19.2 telebit,8N1) |
==============================================================


VK2SG RTTY Dx #90, 11/4/88

THE DX NOTES MAY BE A LITTLE SHORT THIS WEEK, DUE TO ONE OF THE SOURCES OF
INFORMATION BEING INVOLVED IN THE CQ WW SSB CONTEST.  HE MADE OVER 4000
CONTACTS.  ANOTHER REASON WAS THAT I GOT CAUGHT UP WITH TRACKING DOWN THE
3W8 ON CW.  AND THERE I WAS THINKING THAT RTTY WAS THE ONLY MODE. OH WELL,
AT LEAST THERE IS SOME DX.  THE BANDS WERE FAIR AT TIMES WITH SOME GOOD
OPENINGS , BUT LATE IN THE EVENINGS HERE THE BANDS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY
CLOSED.  OUR THANKS GO TO W1DA, TG9VT AND VK2EG FOR SOME OF THE FOLLOWING
INFORMATION.

BANDPASS

THURSDAY:
FM5FA  14091 KHZ  AT  0145Z

FRIDAY:
3B8FP  14080 KHZ  AT 1005Z ARQ/NOTE

SATURDAY:
9V1SS  14080 KHZ  AT  0840Z  ARQ

SUNDAY:
3C1MB   14090 KHZ  AT  0723Z
UA3KAR  14089 KHZ  AT  1042Z
VU2LO   28087 KHZ  AT  1224Z
YB1BG   14092 KHZ  AT  1335Z
OX3FB   28090 KHZ  AT  1407Z
FK8BK   14071 KHZ  AT  2304Z  ARQ

MONDAY:
UA3TT/RF8F 14093 KHZ  AT  0445Z  QSL
YI1BGD     14092 KHZ  AT  0621Z  QSL
FR5DL      14080 KHZ  AT  1330Z  ARQ
FR5DZ      14080 KHZ  AT  1330Z  ARQ

TUESDAY:
UA3TT/RF8F 14093 KHZ  AT  0315Z
FO5LO      14081 KHZ  AT  0614Z  QSL

WEDNESDAY:
UA3TT/RF8F 14093 KHZ  AT  0620Z

QSL INFORMATION:
UA3TT/RF8F, OP OLEG,  TIBLISI, GEORGIA, QSL TO BOX 18,GORKY 603000 USSR.
YI1BGD, OP FARIS, BOX 7147 BAGHDAD, IRAQ.
FO5LO VIA  BOX 4694, TAHITI.
VK8HA INFORMS ME THAT HIS NEW QSL ADDRESS IS BOX 619 HUMPTY DOO, N.T. 0836
AUSTRALIA.

NOTES
3B8FP INFORMS ME THAT THERE ARE ONLY TWO 3B8 STATIONS ON RTTY/AMTOR, 3B8FP
AND 3B8CS.  THEY ARE BOTH LOOKING FOR CONTACTS.

IN LAST WEEKS NOTES THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE U.S./U.S.S.R. EXPEDITION
TO VIETNAM STATED THAT RTTY WAS SCHEDULED TO BE INCLUDED.  THIS WAS THE
INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED.  IT APPEARS THAT THE WORD 'SCHEDULED' SHOULD
HAVE BEEN READ AS 'SUGGESTED'.  IT NOW READS THAT.  IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT
THEY INCLUDE RTTY AND THE RUSSIANS INDICATED AN INTEREST, BUT NO PLAN OR
COMMITMENT HAS BEEN MADE TO INCLUDE RTTY.  I HOPE THAT CORRECTS THAT SMALL
MISUNDERSTANDING.

6W6JX, JEAN, WILL BE UP FROM C56 (GAMBIA) THE WEEKEND OF NOVEMBER 12 & 13.

GL DE  DX1 (VK2SG).

Edited for North American packet distribution by Tad, KT7H @ KE7OM.
Written by VK2SG.  Thanks to VK2AGE, TG9VT, W9CD, and KS5V for HF AMTOR
forwarding.


--
Gary W. Sanders (osu-cis!n8emr!gws, gws@osu-cis) (cis) 72277,1325
(packet) N8EMR @ W8CQK  (ip addr) 44.70.0.1
HAM/SWL/SCANNER BBS (1200/2400/19.2-PEP) 614-457-4227

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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #17
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Wed,  9 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  17

Today's Topics:
              PBBS in the British Isles
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 8 Nov 88 02:04:04 GMT
From: asuvax!stjhmc!f33.n255.z2.fidonet.org!Jim.Grubs/[e-mail]  (Jim Grubs/W8GRT)
Subject: PBBS in the British Isles

Here's a list posted in the HAM echo. I don't think they get PACKET over there.
Too bad. Sounds like an active group.

From:   Rod Smallwood
To:     Mike Fudge
Subj:   Latest Packet BBs List
Attr:
------------------------------------------------

GB7 CALL/NUMBER  SYSOP  OLD BBS/OWN CALL  SATELLITE OR NTS/LOCATION...........
_______________  _____  ________________  ____________________________________

DCE   _37201                                    UOSAT/GB3UP/Surrey
EI1DF _8112                             Satellite to EI5CI /Co. Dublin
EI3EG _851                                              NTS/Co. Cork
EI5CI _811                                              NTS/Co. Dublin
EI6EH _8111                             Satellite to EI5CI /Co. Meath
GB3HQ _333                                              NTS/Potters Bar
GB3KP _371                                              NTS/Surrey
GB3UP _372                                            UOSAT/Surrey
GB3RY _2712                             Satellite to GB7NTS/
GB3XP _3711      Bob      G8GGI         TCP/IP SMTP Gateway/New Malden, Surrey
GB7AAA _2714     Paul     G0HWC         Satellite to GB7NTS/Northampton
GB7ABC _511      Ken      GW3TMH                        NTS/Rhyl
GB7AEU _4812     Malcolm  G4AEU         Satellite to GB7KCM/
GB7AKE _2821              G6AKE         Satellite to GB7DQW/Shrewsbury
GB7AVM _4921     Paul     G0DFP         Satellite to GB7PVR/Chinnor, Oxon
GB7AWA _7813                            Satellite to GB7MAC/Perth
GB7BBS _2716              G4JTY         Satellite to GB7NTS/Daventry
GB7BLY _1611              G8UVE         Satellite to GB7NTS/
GB7BNI _6312              GI4XFN        Satellite to GB7TED/Glencairn, Belfast
GB7BRK _421      John     G1AWD/GB3RA          FWD NTS ONLY/Reading
GB7BRQ _4922              G0BEQ         Satellite to GB7PVR/
GB7BST _32111    Bob      G0BST         Satellite to GB7HIU/
GB7CDM _111      John     G4BVE                         NTS/Crewe
GB7CHS _1112     Ken      G3WCS         Satellite to GB7CDM/Antrobus, Cheshire
GB7CQV _751               GM0CQV                        NTS/Aberdeen
GB7DAD _231      Richard  G3MME                         NTS/Derbyshire
GB7DGK _322      John     G4DGK                         NTS/West Drayton
GB7DQW _282      Chris    G0DQW                         NTS/Shrewsbury
GB7ERA _241      Paul     G0DXX                      HF/NTS/Here-Worcs
GB7ESX _311      Goerge   G1NNB                         NTS/Witham
GB7FCI _161      Chris    G6FCI                         NTS/Blackpool
GB7FRI _782               GM0FRI                        NTS/Oban
GB7GBY _151      Graham   G8UFQ                         NTS/Grimsby
GB7GUR _471      Chris    GU4YMV                     HF/NTS/Guernsey
GB7HHH _331      David    G3OUF                         NTS/Hertfordshire
GB7HIU _3211     Neil     G6HIU         Satellite to GB7UWS/Middlesex
GB7HSN _3212              G1HSN         Satellite to GB7UWS/South London
GB7HUD _1911     Doug     G0EOJ         Satellite to GB7YAX/Huddersfield
GB7HXA _33221    Chris    G4UXV         Satellite to GB7SPV/GB7ZPU/Huntingdon
GB7IMB _411      Martin   G8IMB                         NTS/Bristol
GB7JSC _7811              GM1BVE        Satellite to GB7MAC/Glasgow
GB7KCM _481      Clive    G4KCM                         NTS/Southampton
GB7KVD _452      Mike     G1KVD                         NTS/Taunton
GB7LDI _351      Roger    G3LDI                      HF/NTS/Norwich
GB7LIV _162      Lenny    G4LBJ                         NTS/Liverpool
GB7LNX _261      Mike     G4GOU                         NTS/Lincoln
GB7LRG _2713     Ian      G0GDR         Satellite to GB7NTS/Leicester
GB7MAC _781               GM1ZQM                        NTS/Airdrie
GB7MAX _2911     Adrian   G4JBX         Satellite to GB7SUT/Tamworth
GB7MUM _2311              G6HOQ         Satellite to GB7DAD/
GB7MXM _361      Chas     G4GBA                         NTS/Stowmarket
GB7NEM _121      Richard  G8EIA                         NTS/Middlesborough
GB7NHU _32112             G6NHU         Satellite to GB7HIU/Perivale, Middlesex
GB7NRC _2711     Neil     G4JTY         Satellite to GB7NTS/Daventry
GB7NTS _271      John     G4MTP                         NTS/Daventry
GB7NUN _2715     Alec     G1KBB         Satellite to GB7NTS/Warwickshire
GB7NWP _1111     Nigel    G1ULA         Satellite to GB7CDM/
GB7OCN _451      Dave     G1OCN                         NTS/Dorset
GB7PEN _1612     Dave     G6BSK         Satellite to GB7FCI/Penrith, Cumbria
GB7PHL _192      Phil     G4PHL                         NTS/Sheffield
GB7PLY _441      Peter    G0BSX                         NTS/Plymouth
GB7PVR _492      Richard  G1PVR                         NTS/Oxford
GB7RDG _4213     Steve    G4YFB         Satellite to GB7BRK/Reading
GB7RTJ _2717                            Satellite to GB7NTS/
GB7SAN _7812              GM3SAN        Satellite to GB7MAC/Glasgow
GB7SAU _761               GM8SAU                        NTS/
GB7SEK _341       Dave    G4IDX                      HF/NTS/Ashford
GB7SIG _4511              G6FPC         Satellite to GB7OCN/
GB7SNE _741               GM8SNE                        NTS/Dalgety Bay
GB7SPV _332       Andy    G4SPV                         NTS/Stevenage
GB7SUT _291       Hayden  G8AMD                         NTS/Sutton Coldfield
GB7TCM _242       Graham  G8ADH                         NTS/Upton-Upon-Severn
GB7TED _631               GI4AHP                        NTS/Belfast
GB7TVM _1211      Ian     G1HZI         Satellite to GB7NEM/Hexham
GB7TXA _4212      Dave    G4TXA         Satellite to GB7BRK/Basingstoke
GB7UWS _321       Peter   G1UWS                         NTS/S.London
GB7VLS _352       Paul    G4VLS                         NTS/Norwich
GB7VRB _3412              G6MPE         Satellite to GB7SEK/Brighton
GB7WIR _3221              G1LMI         Satellite to GB7DGK/Slough, Berks
GB7WOK _4211      John    G3WGV         Satellite to GB7BRK/Wokingham
GB7WRI _6311              GI4WRI        Satellite to GB7TED/Randalstown
GB7XJZ _4811      David   G6XJZ         Satellite to GB7KCM/Eastleigh
GB7YAX _191       Dave    G4CLI                         NTS/Wakefield
GB7ZAA _3411      John    G6ZAA         Satellite to GB7SEK/Canterbury
GB7ZBA _3521      Paul    G4ZBA         Satellite to GB7VLS/Norwich
GB7ZPU _3322      Bob     G1ZPU         Satellite to GB7SPV/Bedfordshire




--
St. Joseph's Hospital/Medical Center - Usenet <=> FidoNet Gateway
Uucp: ...{gatech,ames,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!stjhmc!2!255!33!Jim.Grubs/W8GRT
Internet: Jim.Grubs/[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 88 02:29:58 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #18
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Fri, 11 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  18

Today's Topics:
                fido.ham-radio
           TCPIP european addresses request
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 10 Nov 88 04:22:56 GMT
From: osu-cis!n8emr![e-mail]  (Gary Sanders )
Subject: fido.ham-radio

==============================================================
|               Relayed from packet radio via                |
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==============================================================

>From: [e-mail] (Darrell)
>Subject: Attention KPC-4 Owners:


    Attention KPC-4 Owners:

    I recently obtained a correction notification from Kantronics,
having to do with an error discovered during the production of all
KPC-4 units prior to serial number 69489.
    If you have a KPC-4 below this serial number <#69489>, you
should reverse the two capacitors C-40 and C-41, they have been
installed backwards in all KPC-4s.  The proper capacitors are 10mf,
65VDC electrolytics.
 you may send your unit back to Kantronics and
they will correct the error at no charge to you.  Should you
choose this option, please drop a note in with your unit stating
"Reverse C-40 and C-41".
    If you have any question concerning this problem you may contact
Kantronics service department at 1-(913)-842-4476 for further
information.

                   @N2CVQ
                  Darrell

--
Gary W. Sanders (osu-cis!n8emr!gws, gws@osu-cis) (cis) 72277,1325
(packet) N8EMR @ W8CQK  (ip addr) 44.70.0.1
HAM/SWL/SCANNER BBS (1200/2400/19.2-PEP) 614-457-4227

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 88 01:16 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TCPIP european addresses request

Could somebody post the latest european TCP-IP address lists.
I will post the french one at the beginning of next week.

73s Remi

AMPRNET [e-mail] [44.151.91.7] on 144.650MHZ
ax25    fe6cnb @ F6abj-1
Email   [e-mail]

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sat, 12 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  19

Today's Topics:
               Callbook Project
               gateway 10/21/88
             Packet BBS software
           Packet help in Long Beach needed
              Which TNC to buy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 8 Nov 88 19:03:08 GMT
From: att!whuts!homxb!hou2d![e-mail]  (J. Gordon Beattie, Jr.)
Subject: Callbook Project

 got a message a while back re: the callbook tape project
asking about my interest.  I replied and have not seen anything
since until the oher day.  We have been working on various
OSI software components and have te beginnings of a directory
service.  We also have an interest in this because we obtained
an International Code Designator (ICD) for "Amateur Radio"
(See ARRL Computer Networking Conference Proceedings for
1988) and would like to start the assignment process within
the Amateur Radio community in an automated fashion early
next year.  Drafts of the OSI Management Framework for
Amateur Radio will be out in December.


Thanks,
       J. Gordon Beattie, Jr.          n2dsy@kd6th
Telephone: [phone] (Office)           201-615-4669 (Office FAX)
Telephone: [phone] (Home)

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Date: 7 Nov 88 20:44:51 GMT
From: osu-cis!killer!pollux!dalsqnt!usl!usl-pc![e-mail]  (DugalJP)
Subject: gateway 10/21/88

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Moore) writes:
>sequence the computer is executing. I have an MFJ-1274 (sigh) that
>radiates right on one of the WEFAX frequencies, but ONLY when it
>is WEFAX mode!

John, have you tried to tweak the trimmer cap in the xtal osc circuit?
This should move the interference (at the risk of interfering elsewhere).

Can you comment on the WEFAX operation ... I have an older 1274 and
wonder if I should upgrade the roms.

73 de James
--
-- James Dugal, N5KNX           USENET: ...!{dalsqnt,killer}!usl!jpd
Associate Director              Internet: [e-mail]
Computing Center                US Mail: PO Box 42770  Lafayette, LA  70504
University of Southwestern LA.  Tel. [phone]       U.S.A.

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Date: 9 Nov 88 11:50:22 GMT
From: bpa![e-mail]  (Bob Esposito)
Subject: Packet BBS software

    Can anyone give me some information on where I can purchase
    BBS software for packet?  I have an IBM-PC, a Heath 4040 TNC,
    and an HT, for now.

    I have access to some local BBS and have already downloaded the
    WA7MBL and W0RLI programs, but they don't really work.  Is there
    a software house that has amateur programs like this anywhere?

    Thanks in advance,

--
Bob Esposito           uucp: [e-mail], {rutgers|bellcore}!bpa!espo
Bell of Pennsylvania   inet: [e-mail]
Philadelphia, PA.      phone: [phone]   packet: ESPO @ N3CTA 44.80.0.93
===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1988 15:02-EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Packet help in Long Beach needed

A organization here involved in a chess tournament in Long Beach, CA needs
communications assistance getting bits from their hotel to a GTE Telenet or
ARPAnet node, the hotel wants and exhorbitant $150/day for a hookup (which
is probably just a modem with a special connector on it, plus an arrangement
with the switchboard to allow a data call to go through, plus call charges).
So, they are looking at packet radio as an alternative.

  They have a licensed amateur among their members, so third party traffic is
no problem; and the group feels that they wouldn't be in violation of any
commercial interest restrictions, especially since computers can't win cash
prizes in most federation-sponsored chess tournaments anymore.

Please contact [e-mail] ASAP (not me, please) if you have any
ideas or leads.

Thank you for your support.

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 88 16:44:54 GMT
From: agate!bionet!apple![e-mail]  (Tom Taylor)
Subject: Which TNC to buy?

I am interested in buying a TNC.  I would like a TNC that can also
do RTTY, AMTOR, etc.  Actually, I know very little about packet
radio but would like to start.  Heathkit has a kit (about $280) that
seems to do everything.  On the other hand, there are already assembled
units that appear to do everything the Heathkit does for about the
same price.  Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

Tom Taylor - AA6BR
Development Systems Group

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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #20
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sun, 13 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  20

Today's Topics:
              Repost of message.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Nov 88 11:03:22 +0200
From: [e-mail] (also try [e-mail])
Subject: Repost of message.

This was posted by me some days ago and came back due to the problems
the internet had suffered the last few days.
Here it is again - better late than never...
--
Yesterday we were facing a new problem that might cause a great deal of
damage to the whole system of mail and bulletin forwarding using packet
radio.
Jim 4X1RU who performs as the gateway between Israel and the USA and also
between Israel and Europe had noticed a station connecting to his BBS
and acting unusual:
The station used Jonathan N4QQ's call sign but from it's signal strength
and character it was obvious that it was transmitted from somewhere in
Europe. When Jim tried to talk with that imposter and asked him to identify
himself he got 'virus' as a reply and the other station disconnected and
disappeared.
Luckily this time it didn't have chance to kill any message or do any other
damage but it is clear that by just connecting and faking a forwarding
session lots of mail can get lost - or faked.
We changed the gateway to a polling only policy and all traffic is handled
by means of reverse forwarding ,but this is not a solution.
We must find a solution quickly to this problem by providing a solid and
easy to use authentication method to be incorporated in the mail forwarding
session or to change all together to a newer/safer protocol.
I think that Phil once said that authentication over a tcp/ip link is easy
to achieve.

Any sujjestions ?

Ofer 4X6OJ.

--
Ofer Lapid 4X6OJ, P.O.Box 623, Kiriat Bialik 27000, Israel.
E-Mail: [e-mail] == [e-mail]
AX.25:  4X6OJ@4X1GP, IP: [44.138.40.04], Pho: 972-4-721257
--

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 88 01:30:44 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #21
To: [e-mail]

PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon, 14 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  21

Today's Topics:
          MFJ1274 (was Re: gateway 10/21/88)
            Starter Help (New Packet User)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 11 Nov 88 14:37:09 GMT
From: asuvax!anasaz![e-mail]  (John Moore)
Subject: MFJ1274 (was Re: gateway 10/21/88)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (DugalJP) writes:
]In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Moore) writes:
]>sequence the computer is executing. I have an MFJ-1274 (sigh) that
]>radiates right on one of the WEFAX frequencies, but ONLY when it
]>is WEFAX mode!
]
]John, have you tried to tweak the trimmer cap in the xtal osc circuit?
]This should move the interference (at the risk of interfering elsewhere).

No - it's not that much of a problem. I just posted it to point out
that software can affect the frequency and frequency density of
RFI from computers.
]
]Can you comment on the WEFAX operation ... I have an older 1274 and
]wonder if I should upgrade the roms.

I'm not impressed in general with the 1274. I find the instructions
confusing, and the tuning indicator is of little help in tuning
things in. On RTTY it seems to get more errors on receive that
would seem reasonable.

On WEFAX, you get a black and white picture (although they claim
gray scale is coming with a new release). The software doesn't know
how to synchronize, so you have to manually adjust the horizontal
sync with the keyboard as a picture comes in. Not too terribly
useful.
--
John Moore (NJ7E)           {decvax, ncar, ihnp4}!noao!nud!anasaz!john
[phone] (day or eve) {gatech, ames, rutgers}!ncar!...
The opinions expressed here are obviously not mine, so they must be
someone else's. :-)

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Date: 12 Nov 88 05:41:07 GMT
From: blft1![e-mail]  (Gregg Houck SysOp)
Subject: Starter Help (New Packet User)

DE WA3WNE.

Hi guys.  Need some help in selecting equipment and software to setup
a packet system here at my qth.  First, I am looking to setup a
conventional VHF packet station then to add a gateway to HF and am
most interested in having a gateway to uucp for usenet access.

Thanks in advance.

Gregg Houck
...psuvax1!blft1!gah

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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 88 01:30:21 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #22
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue, 15 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  22

Today's Topics:
               french TCP-IP addresses
          Looking for 2m packet transceiver
             TCP-IP for Macintosh
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 88 02:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: french TCP-IP addresses

#French TCP-IP address assignement ( 10/NOV/88 )
#French coordinator fc1bqp

44.151.27.1     fe6gnj   #Arnaud CABARET , 27180 SEBASTIEN DE MORSENT

44.151.41.1     fc1lil   #Dominique SIMSON , 41

44.151.45.1     fd1gyw   #Christian PIMBERT , 45000 ORLEANS

44.151.59.1     fe3cf    #Jean Claude FABER , 59000 LILLE
44.151.59.2     fe6btx   #Pierre COURTIER , 59650 VILLENEUVE D'ASCQ
44.151.59.3     fc1heq   #Laurent FRANCOIS , 59200 TOURCOING

44.151.60.1     fe9so    #Henri COSTE , 60560 ORRY LA VILLE

44.151.67.1     fe6dhd   #Christian REHM , 67700 SAVERNE
44.151.67.2     fe6bec   #Philippe REHM , SAVERNE
44.151.67.3     ff6knj   #Radio Club de Saverne , 67700 SAVERNE

44.151.75.1     fe6abj-2 #Remy JENTGES , 75018 PARIS

44.151.77.1     fc1ebn   #Gerard REGNARD , 77220 TOURNAND EN BRIE

44.151.78.1     fe5dh    #Guy DELCOURT , 78180 MONTIGNY
44.151.78.2     fe6fgo   #Jean-Marie , 78400 CHATOU
44.151.78.3     fc1hpi   #Alain DESRUES , 78120 GAZERAN
44.151.78.4     fe6bnm   #Stephane MAZZONI , 78180 MONTIGNY LE BRETONNEUX

44.151.91.1     fc1bqp   #(Gat) Pierre-Francois MONET, 91210 DRAVEIL
44.151.91.2     fc1djl   #(Gat) Jean-Louis TRUQUET, 91400 ORSAY
44.151.91.3     fc1djl-1 #Jean-Louis TRUQUET, 91400 ORSAY
44.151.91.4     fc1bqp-1 #Pierre-Francois MONET, 91210 DRAVEIL
44.151.91.5     fc1bqp-2 #Pierre-Francois MONET, 91210 DRAVEIL
44.151.91.6     fc1gyg   #Patrick DE SOUZA , 91430 IGNY
44.151.91.7     fe6cnb   #Remi HUTIN , 91440 BURES SUR YVETTES
44.151.91.8     fc1hdi   #Jean Marc BORD , 91600 SAVIGNY SUR ORGE
44.151.91.9     fe6bia   #Alain MONGINI , 91360 EPINAY SUR ORGE
44.151.91.10    f/g8tpf  #Nick SANVOISIN , 91120 PALAISEAU

44.151.92.1     fe6ano   #Michel AMIARD , 92200 NEUILLY SUR SEINE

44.151.93.1     fe6itu   #Marc OLANIE , 93150 BLANC MESNIL

44.151.94.1     fe2zv    #Daniel JEANGUYOT , 94360 BRY SUR MARNE
44.151.94.2     fe5st    #Serge THEOLIERRE , 94800 VILLEJUIF

44.151.95.1     fc1aav   #Daniel VALLEE, 95150 TAVERNY
44.151.95.2     fc1eou   #Michel BERGIRON , 95190 GOUSSAINVILLE
44.151.95.3     fe6enb   #Alain BRUNETTI , 95110 SANNOIS
44.151.95.4     fc1chf   #Francois JOUAN , 95    FRANCONVILLE

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Date: 13 Nov 88 03:22:00 GMT
From: modcomp![e-mail]
Subject: Looking for 2m packet transceiver

I'm looking for a transceiver that may be used as a dedicated
2m packet unit. My preference is for something new and low cost.
Minimal power is required since I'm less than 3 miles from the node.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

uunet!modcomp!dan

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 88 13:01 SET
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: TCP-IP for Macintosh

Hi,
I have two questions.
I'm using KA9Q TCP-IP v. 871225.8 on a Mac Se; I would like to know if it is
the last release.If not, how and where can I get the last one?

I'm having trouble with the archives at RPICICGE; I downloaded some files
 .ARC (as NET_PC.ARC) and tried to unarc them with ARC520 but without success.
I used an IBM AT connected to an IBM host (IBM 3081, vm/cms) with IRMA2 card,
emulating an IBM 3278 terminal unit.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks

73's Massimo, i5uns

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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #23
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Wed, 16 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  23

Today's Topics:
               Do I really need a TNC?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 12 Nov 88 01:06:37 GMT
From: ius3.ius.cs.cmu.edu![e-mail]  (Ralph Hyre)
Subject: Do I really need a TNC?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Fred R. Goldstein) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas E. Kenny) writes:
>>I'm thinking of getting into packet. I have a computer, I have a 2 meter
>>HT and I have a modem! I was wondering if I really need a TNC!
>No, you don't need a discrete-box TNC, but you need _something_.

Three additional problems:
- most modems are asynchronous NRZ with start/stop bits, and packet is
 syncrhonous HDLC NRZI, carring its clocking signals around with it.
- And, the frequencies used are not Bell 212, they are Bell 202 compatible.
  Bell 202 was an obscure (except for packet, of course) half-duplex 1200
  bps standard.
- If you use anything except FCC-blessed AX.25 (whatever that means)
  unattended operation is not allowed.

I've got so many Bell-212 modems lying around that I've often been tempted
to 'go asynch' and just put them on the air talking to each other at first.
Having only one transceiver doesn't help me much in this regard, though.

My Apple-cat modems can do Bell 103/202/212 and CCIT freqs stuff as well, and
it already has a relay onboard (intended for turning on a cassette tape for
an answering machine application, but it will work just fine for a PTT.
[If I have to build cheap xmitters & stuff I will just put the PTT watchdogs
in the rigs themselves.]

Anyway, good luck.
--
                    - Ralph W. Hyre, Jr.
Internet: [e-mail]    Phone:(412) CMU-BUGS
Amateur Packet Radio: N3FGW@W2XO, or c/o W3VC, CMU Radio Club, Pittsburgh, PA
"You can do what you want with my computer, but leave me alone!8-)"
--

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 88 01:30:52 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #24
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Thu, 17 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  24

Today's Topics:
           AMPRnet allocations in UK as at 7/11/88
               Do I really need a TNC?
                Need Conection
              Repost of message.
            Starter Help (New Packet User)
            The callsign project, for hams
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 88 13:15:37 GMT
From: "John Heaton 061-275-6011" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AMPRnet allocations in UK as at 7/11/88

#     AMPRNET UK IP addresses take the form
#
#     44.131.rrr.sss
#
#     where rrr = region  in range 1 to 254 (current max = 22)
#           sss = station in range 1 to 254
#
44.131.1.1 g4lhx g4lhx.ampr.org #Phil Chapman, nr Manchester, ?
44.131.1.2 g1ula g1ula.ampr.org #Nigel Watkinson, Altrincham, IO83uj
44.131.1.3 g4tot g4tot.ampr.org #Roger James, Morecambe, IO84nb
44.131.1.4 g3zau g3zau.ampr.org #Micheal Lord, Congleton, IO83ls
44.131.1.5 g4tup g4tup.ampr.org #David ?, Southport, IO83mp
44.131.1.6 g6fci g6fci.ampr.org #Chris McMahon, Blackpool, IO83lu
44.131.1.7 g3uvq g3uvq.ampr.org #Neil ?, Caton, IO87b
44.131.1.8 g1yyh g1yyh.ampr.org #John Heaton, Bolton, IO83sn
44.131.1.9 g8nvw g8nvw.ampr.org #Alban Pierce, Bolton, ?
44.131.1.10 g1rsw g1rsw.ampr.org #Ian Marchant, Congleton, IO83ve
44.131.1.11 g4vps g4vps.ampr.org #Brian Lewis, Ingleton, ?
44.131.1.12 g4xhs g4xhs.ampr.org #John Greenwood, Bolton, ?
44.131.1.13 g4ght g4ght.ampr.org #M R Skyner, Smallwood Cheshire, ?
44.131.1.14 gb7nwp gb7nwp.ampr.org #Manchester Mailbox, Altrincham, IO83uj
#
44.131.2.1 g1oqq g1oqq.ampr.org #Harold Heath, Ripon, IO94cd
44.131.2.2 g4lpq g4lpq.ampr.org #John Kirk, Leyburn, IO94bg
44.131.2.3 g6guw g6guw.ampr.org #Malcolm ?, Easingwold, IO94kc
44.131.2.4 g4cli g4cli.ampr.org #Dave Lockwood, Wakefield, IO93fp
44.131.2.5 g4phl g4phl.ampr.org #Phil Green, Sheffield, ?
44.131.2.6 g3vxn g3vxn.ampr.org #Martin Taylor, ?, ?
#
44.131.3.1 g8tqh g8tqh.ampr.org #Andy McMullin, Edgbaston, ?
44.131.3.2 g4jty g4jty.ampr.org #Neil Rimmer, Daventry, ?
44.131.3.3 g4jbx g4jbx.ampr.org #Adrian Booth, Tamworth, ?
44.131.3.4 g8osx g8osx.ampr.org #? ?, Tamworth, ?
44.131.3.5 g8khv g8khv.ampr.org #R Evans, Lichfield, ?
44.131.3.6 g1dil g1dil.ampr.org #Andy Witts, Wolverhampton, IO82vo
#
44.131.4.1 g4klx g4klx.ampr.org #Jonathan Naylor, Wirksworth, IO93fb
44.131.4.2 g4gou g4gou.ampr.org #Mike Wilson, Lincoln, IO93ve
44.131.4.3 g8ufq g8ufq.ampr.org #Graham Chester, Grimsby, IO93xn
44.131.4.4 g4dxb g4dxb.ampr.org #Brian Chester, Grimsby, IO93xn
#
44.131.5.1 g0dwi g0dwi.ampr.org #Len Fennelow, Wisbech, JO02cq
44.131.5.2 g3nrw g3nrw.ampr.org #Ian Wade, nr Bedford, IO91sx
44.131.5.3 g8ptp g8ptp.ampr.org #Tim Haynes, Luton, ?
44.131.5.4 g6gzh g6gzh.ampr.org #David Brooke, Cambridge, ?
44.131.5.5 g1zpu g1zpu.ampr.org #Bob Compton, nr Sandy, IO92vc
44.131.5.6 g0kcu g0kcu.ampr.org #Dwight Ernest, Toddington, ?
#
44.131.6.1 g1nqw g1nqw.ampr.org #Mike Ferriday, Reading, IO91lk
44.131.6.2 g6cgd g6cgd.ampr.org #Slough College, Slough, IO91qm
44.131.6.3 g1plt g1plt.ampr.org #Paul Taylor, High Wycombe, IO91po
44.131.6.4 g6tsf g6tsf.ampr.org #Paul Shayler, Slough, IO91rm
#
44.131.7.1 gb3xp gb3xp.ampr.org #New Malden Digipeater, New Malden, IO91vj
44.131.7.2 g8ggi g8ggi.ampr.org #Bob Geddes, New Malden, IO91vj
44.131.7.3 g8ggi g8ggi.ampr.org #Bob Geddes, New Malden, IO91vj
44.131.7.4 g8lwy g8lwy.ampr.org #Edward Batts, Kingston, IO91uk
44.131.7.5 gb3kp gb3kp.ampr.org #Kingston Digipeater, Kingston, IO91uk
44.131.7.6 g1emm g1emm.ampr.org #Kelvin Hill, Farnham, IO91oe
44.131.7.7 g1pcd g1pcd.ampr.org #Paul Dicken, Cobham, IO91ti
44.131.7.8 g5ds  g5ds.ampr.org  #John Danks, Surbiton,
44.131.7.9 g3xtt g3xtt.ampr.org #Fields Don, Henley on Thame, IO91mm
44.131.7.10 g0hwo g0hwo.ampr.org #John Baker, Reigate, IO91vf
44.131.7.11 g3tne g3tne.ampr.org #Colin Wantling, Camberley, IO91ph
44.131.7.12 g3rra g3rra.ampr.org #Ian Matheson, Camberley, IO91ph
44.131.7.13 g1ttg g1ttg.ampr.org #Justin Brickwood, Camberley, IO91ph
44.131.7.14 g8kwi g8kwi.ampr.org #? ?, Camberley, ?
#
44.131.8.1 g4lzv g4lzv.ampr.org #Keith Brazington, Rochester, JO01gj
44.131.8.2 gb7ck gb7ck.ampr.org #Ashford Digipeater, Ashford, ?
44.131.8.3 g4lzv2 g4lzv.ampr.org #Keith Brazington, Rochester, JO01gj
44.131.8.4 g3gjw g3gjw.ampr.org #Smudge Lundegard, Swanley, JO01di
44.131.8.5 g4idx g4idx.ampr.org #Dave Turner, Ashford, ?
44.131.8.6 g4mpa g4mpa.ampr.org #Geoff Squibb, Teynham, JO01ji
44.131.8.6 g1tzu g1tzu.ampr.org #Sue Squibb, Teynham, JO1ji
44.131.8.7 g1bys g1bys.ampr.org #Tony Kempton, Bromley, JO01aj
44.131.8.8 g6zaa g6zaa.ampr.org #John Wellard, Canterbury, JO01oh
44.131.8.9 g3xvy g3xvy.ampr.org #Phil Coull, Folkestone,
44.131.8.10 g1ikj g1ikj.ampr.org #Quentin North, Brighton, ?
44.131.8.11 g4fxe g4fxe.ampr.org #Rob ?, Dover, ?
44.131.8.12 g1hsn g1hsn.ampr.org #Derek ?, Bromley, JO01ak
44.131.8.13 g3tdg g3tdg.ampr.org #Bill Green, Biggin Hill, ?
#
44.131.9.1 g0bsx g0bsx.ampr.org #Peter Meiring,Plymouth, IO70wj
44.131.9.2 g1mrg g1mrg.ampr.org #Barry Cresswell, Plymouth, IO70wh
44.131.9.3 g4pem g4pem.ampr.org #Simon Rodda, Penzance,
44.131.9.4 g4snl g4snl.ampr.org #Iain Dunsworth, Saltash, IO79vj
44.131.9.5 g1dih g1dih.ampr.org #Stuart Charles, Plymouth, IO70wj
44.131.9.6 g4sca g4sca.ampr.org #John Veale, Plymouth, ?
44.131.9.7 g1dii g1dii.ampr.org #Major ?, Beer, ?
44.131.9.8 g6ujb g6ujb.ampr.org #Ray ?, Launceston,
44.131.9.9 g3yjq g3yjq.ampr.org #Fred ?, Plymouth, ?
44.131.9.10 g7auq g7auq.ampr.org #Nick ?, Plymouth, ?
44.131.9.11 pc.g0bsx g0bsx.ampr.org #Peter Meiring,Plymouth, IO70wj
44.131.9.12 g1sqi g1sqi.ampr.org #John Bewley, Plymouth, IO70vj
#
44.131.10.1 gw4uck gw4uck.ampr.org #Jones Graham, Swansea, ?
#
44.131.15.1 gi4tvv gi4tvv.ampr.org #Gavin Stewart, Belfast, IO74an
#
44.131.16.1 g6aal g6aal.ampr.org #Ivan Andrews, Chelmsford, JO01mr
44.131.16.2 g1tlh g1tlh.ampr.org #Dirk Koopman, East Dereham, JO02lq
44.131.16.3 g6tcj g6tcj.ampr.org #Richard ?, nr Harlow, ?
44.131.16.4 n6lyt n6lyt.ampr.org #John Melton, Southminster, JO01jq
44.131.16.5 g8onh g8onh.ampr.org #John Sager, Ipswich, JO02pa
44.131.16.6 gb7mx gb7mx.ampr.org #Ipswich Digipeater, Ipswich, JO02ob
44.131.16.7 g4xrk g4xrk.ampr.org #John Lord, Bury St Edmonds, JO02ig
44.131.16.8 g4zgy g4zgy.ampr.org #? ?, Mildenhall, JO02gj
44.131.16.9 g4diw g4diw.ampr.org #Colin Ferryman, Colchester, JO01kw
44.131.16.10 g1uws g1uws.ampr.org #Peter ?, ?, JO01bk
44.131.16.11 g0brm g0brm.ampr.org #Neal ?, ?, JO02FI
#
44.131.17.1 g6kqz g6kqz.ampr.org #Brian Wiseman, Basingstoke, IO91kf
44.131.17.2 g4kcm g4kcm.ampr.org #Clive Sanders, Southampton, ?
44.131.17.3 g4snl2 g4snl.ampr.org #Iain Dunsworth, Saltash, IO79vj
44.131.17.4 g3vpf g3vpf.ampr.org #Ed Harland, Weymouth, IO80so
44.131.17.5 g1jar g1jar.ampr.org #Lloyd Arrow, Southsea, IO90lt
44.131.17.6 g4zrt g4zrt.ampr.org #? ?, Bishops Waltham,
44.131.17.7 g1wkk g1wkk.ampr.org #Jim ?, Basingstoke, IO91kf
#
44.131.19.1 g6kvk g6kvk.ampr.org #Gareth Howell, Letchworth, IO91vx
44.131.19.2 g0cnr g0cnr.ampr.org #Hugh Davies, St Albans, ?
44.131.19.3 g6ttd g6ttd.ampr.org #Rod Hewitt, Ware, JO01at
44.131.19.4 g6ttd2 g6ttd.ampr.org #Rod Hewitt, Ware, JO01at
44.131.19.5 g1jkf g1jkf.ampr.org #Nigel Leaney, Buntingford, IO91xw
44.131.19.6 g1sls g1sls.ampr.org #K Jones, London, JO01ao
44.131.19.7 g8klc g8klc.ampr.org #Phil Webber, St Albans, IO
44.131.19.8 g0bst g0bst.ampr.org #Bob Holton, Northwood, IO91to
44.131.19.9 g1xrn g1xrn.ampr.org #Ray Gordon, Edgware,
44.131.19.10 g6nhu g6nhu.ampr.org #Keith Maton, Ealing, ?
#
44.131.20.1 g8imb g8imb.ampr.org #Martin Stubbs, ?, ?
44.131.20.2 g4wrw g4wrw.ampr.org #David Hough, Bristol, IO81sm
#
#
# Unregistered Local Callsigns
#
44.131.1.28 g3wec g3wec.ampr.org #Alan Yates, Stockport, ?
44.131.1.37 g6gxk g6gxk.ampr.org #Dave Wrigley, Rochdale, ?
44.131.1.38 g1oug g1oug.ampr.org #Kevin Anderson, Bolton, IO83un
44.131.1.39 g1sgv g1sgv.ampr.org #Andrew Anderson, Bolton, IO83un
#
# The END

--------------------
John Heaton,

Janet: [e-mail]
AX.25: G1YYH@GB7NWP
AMPR:  [44.131.1.8] g1yyh.ampr.org

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Date: 14 Nov 88 19:07:12 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Bob Tidd)
Subject: Do I really need a TNC?

>>>I was wondering if I really need a TNC!
>>I've proposed going to a non-HDLC layer 2...
>>(a802.txt on ucsd.edu's /hamradio repository).

  Fred, couldn't reach you by email.

I'm all for it.  We software types with <<$$ could really use it.
Would it be compatible with "everyone else" or take over as a viable mode?
I'm for it on cost.  Can I get the spec via annonymous ftp?
Is there a discussion of the relative merits and/or obstacles?
Thanks, Bob KJ6CS

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Date: 16 Nov 88 13:11:29 GMT
From: 2006lg @ ANKARA-EMH.ARPA
Subject: Need Conection

 Need  DDN  address  to send message to and from Sun  City  AZ.  phone
 number  602-972-9878  Wife is at this location to  assist  mother,  I
 would like updates and status of father.

 Ham  radio  is  problem due to no 3rd party  agrement  withe  US  and
 Turkey.  Also need new antena here to work west coast, may have  that
 problem solved.

 Can  any one help pass traffic.  or can anyone post MARS grams in  to
 that system.

 Thanks for the help

 Steve
 TA5/WA6LKS

 you can find me here or between 1400Z thru 1800Z on 28.600mhz on  the
 hour  and half hour also on 21.350mhz at 15 after and 15  before  the
 hour if you need a QSL card from TA5.

 Local address is BOX 1548
          APO Ney York 09289

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Date: 14 Nov 88 06:27:08 GMT
From: rochester!kodak!swamps!lazlo![e-mail]  (Clifford C. Skolnick)
Subject: Repost of message.

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (also try [e-mail]) writes:
>
>I think that Phil once said that authentication over a tcp/ip link is easy
>to achieve.
>
>Any sujjestions ?
>
>Ofer 4X6OJ.
>
>--

What I did for the "escape to DOS" function I added to an IBM PC PBBS was
to generate a list of uniq random numbers.  The computer would spit out the
numbers sequencialy every time you accessed the protected feature
you would have to answer with the next number in sequence.  This master
list of course could not be transmitted, but if you make a huge one it
would be a long time before a new list was needed.

Example:


List= 54 23 12 10 52   (small number for simplicity)

system A spits out 54
system B must respond with 23

Next time system A spits out 23
System B must respond with 12

System A really does not even have to spit out a number, but it helps
B make sure that he is talking to A.  This is done by making sure the
number you are requested to answer to is the same one you answered with
last time.  Or even better, keep two lists and have both machines
validate.


--
Clifford C. Skolnick    |  "You told me time makes it easy, then you never told
Phone: [phone]   |   me time stands still" - Gary Neuman
TCP/IP: 44.68.0.195     | ...!rutgers!rochester!ritcv!ritcsh!sabin! lazlo!ccs
[e-mail]|                      \!kodak!pcid!gizzmo!/

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Date: 15 Nov 88 01:32:55 GMT
From: rti!sunpix![e-mail]  (Mike Clark)
Subject: Starter Help (New Packet User)

I recommend that you obtain a copy of PTP (Packet Terminal Program)
for your PC clone.  It was written by N4PY and is available on Genie,
and Compuserve (I think), or, I will make a copy for anyone who sends me
a blank 5.25" or 3.5" diskette, and a SASE.

A few of PTP's features include:

o split screen operation - two or three screens
o file transfer using XMODEM, ASCII, binary, and XPACKET (no crc's or other
  stuff, lets the HDLC hardware take car of that...),
o fax support
o multiple tnc "personalization" files
o support for NTS traffic
o support for RTTY and AMTOR
o Net Master mode - allows multiconnect QSOs to be conducted with one station
  acting as the Net Master and relaying all packets received to each of the
  connected stations
o indexed, 30 page manual
o FREE!


PTP is brought to you by WDCG - Wake [county] Digital Communications Group.

Michael Clark  - Sun Microsystems           ...sun!sunpix!suntri!mdc
         125 Edinburgh South        919/481-3959
         Suite 105
         Cary, NC  27511

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Date: 15 Nov 88 23:10:00 GMT
From: cadnetix.COM!cadnetix![e-mail]  (Rusty)
Subject: The callsign project, for hams

Well, the tape from NTIS and the FCC has arrived.  For more info,
see rec.ham-radio.

I will be away from my mail/news feed until after November 27, so
don't expect me to reply sooner :-).

-----
Rusty Carruth   UUCP: {uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!rusty  DOMAIN: [e-mail]
Cadnetix Corp.  [phone]x296 \  5775 Flatiron Pkwy. \ Boulder, Co 80301
Radio: N7IKQ    'home': P.O.B. 461 \  Lafayette, CO 80026

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Fri, 18 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  25

Today's Topics:
           Looking for rec.ham-radio* feed
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wednesday, 16 November 1988  22:44-MST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Looking for rec.ham-radio* feed

A friend in the L.A. area is looking for a feed of the rec.ham-radio*
groups.  He is PC-Pursuitable, so please help out if you can.  Please
contact him at ...denwa!bongo!julian  or  on [phone].

Thanks a lot...

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Fri, 18 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  26

Today's Topics:
            proposal for comments
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 18 Nov 88 04:18:07 GMT
From: osu-cis!n8emr![e-mail]  (Gary Sanders )
Subject: proposal for comments

Below is a proposal from Hank Greeb on an alt networking idea.
Hank does not have access to the net so he ask me to forward it.
If you have comments you can send mail to me [e-mail] and
I can forward the comments to him or direct to hank on packet
radio at n8xx@kc8tw.

Gary W. Sanders (osu-cis!n8emr!gws, gws@osu-cis) (cis) 72277,1325
(packet) N8EMR @ W8CQK  (ip addr) 44.70.0.1
HAM/SWL/SCANNER BBS (1200/2400/19.2-PEP) 614-457-4227


            A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO NETWORKING
      A PROPOSAL FOR STUDY - For the next level of Networking in Ohio
         (Originally presented at the 1988 Annual Meeting
             of the Ohio Packet Council, Inc.)

By Hank Greeb, N8XX                                      November 13, 1988

ABSTRACT:  This paper presents an alternative to the linear networks which
we currently are using and building in Ohio and surrounding states.  It
overcomes the well documented "ALOHA" syndrome, where actual throughput of
a linear, random access network, where nodes hidden (by either topography
or distance) cannot hear each other and cause collisions.  It builds upon
concepts previously discussed at the ARRL Computer Networking Conferences.
The effective throughput of the system would be close to the baud rate of
the links involved.

===========================================================================

Lemke, WB9MJN, has proposed a cellular network. (See "Cellular Area
Coverage Transport Networks" by Donald V. Lemke, WB9MJN, in the proceedings
of the ARRL 7th Computer Networking Conference).  He proposes full duplex
nodes on the 1250 MHz. band.  Adacent nodes have inverted transmit and
receive frequencies.  It is assumed that the three directions would be
handled by three pairs of frequencies for the three directions.  Getting
three transmitters to coexist with three receivers at a site might be a bit
difficult, though it  probably could be done.

The fellows at AMSAT have a somewhat different idea - they use three or more
receivers and a single transmitter at a site, hooked through a computer
which receives AX.25 frames on four channels, and generates AX.25 frames
on two output frequencies.

What does a spacecraft have to do with terrestrial networking?  Well, if we
use such a functional module as a building block, let's see what kind of a
network might be developed.  We could have a node with three receiving
channels (bands?) It would transmit on a fourth frequency.  We could use a
fifth port (used typically on a satellite for two-way telemetry and control
functions) for connection to a LAN.  Let's look at what a node in Fairfield
might look like.  It might receive from Brookville, Indiana, on one
frequency, from Dayton, Ohio on a second frequency, and from Walton,
Kentucky on a third.  It would transmit on a fourth.  If duplexers, could
handle three receive frequencies and one transmit frequency (or if the
frequencies were on separate bands?) the channel could be full duplex.
However, the concept could work on a simplex mode, albeit at a slower rate
and possibility for collisions and retries.  We'd need a total of six
frequencies to make the network, but spectrum should be available.

>From a series of such sites we can build a hexagonal network with a path of
redundancy around any node - so that the network would not fail if an
individual node failed.  (See Figure I for a part of such a network which
could be put in place in Southern Ohio, Northern Kentucky, and Southeast
Indiana.) Each node would be equipped with three receivers, one
transmitter, and a computer designed to look like a multi-port TNC.  We
could use the receive and transmit modules from the Microsat modified for
51, 220 or 440 MHz (if we wanted to go simplex), or figure out if a 900 or
1250 MHz. duplexor could be made to work with three receivers and one xmtr
on the same band.  N6GN reports that VERY inexpensive modules are available
for a 900 MHz.  personal (CB-type) band in Japan - maybe these will be
imported for use in the U.S.  902 MHz ham band?  Or, maybe we could adapt
the ever cheaper 900 MHz.  cellular telephone strips for such use?  We'd
use another port for connection to a LAN frequency, using standard rigs
(for now).

What sort of computer might work?  Would a PS-186 handle the job?  Would
the TAPR NNC work?  How about TEXNET?  Would the microcomputer being used
for the Microsat project be an economical and otherwise practical choice?
The Microsat is supposed to be able to handle at least 5 input ports and
two output ports at 4800 BPS or higher, and the cost is supposed to be low.
The advantage of the MICROSAT hardware is that it MUST be available by May
1989, because THE BIRD WILL FLY!! at that time.

Vic, K1LT, et. al. (at the OPAC meeting) figured out that 6 frequencies
would be needed, and the closest node transmitting on the same frequency
would be twice as far as the desired node.  This corroborates the asertion
of Lemke in his paper.


If simplex nodes could used, but the overall thruput of the system would be
cut by at least 50%.  Special attention would need be paid to turnaround
time of tx to rx to be effective.  Software would have to be designed to
NOT transmit if a packet were being received by a node, nor to attempt to
transmit data to a node when it was transmitting.  All in all, it would be
MUCH better to work full duplex.  Possibly we could use pairs near 51/54
MHz, near 221/224 MHz, and one duplex pair in the 440 MHz range.  Other
possibilities would be 6 frequencies strategically located in the 902 MHz
band, or 1.3 GHz band, or ?????  Getting started with equipment currently
in use on 50/220/450 might allow us to develope software and prove the
concept before we plunge into the unknown world of 900 or 1290 MHz.

The job of the node controller would be to receive packets from the receive
ports, and queue them for transmission (if simplex) or send them along to
destination if duplex.  It would need to allow for TX turn-on time,
inasmuch as when the node were idle there would be no need for the
transmitter to be running, and would have to be able to handle routing and
alternative routings to handle congestion and/or failure of a node.
A PS-186 or similar should do the job.

The nodes could be connected to LANs, or merely act as a trunking switch.
If desired, a BBS forwarding port could be added to eliminate BBS
forwarding on the LAN frequency.

The general idea was well received at the OPAC meeting, and we agreed to
continue a dialogue on how best to improve and implement such a network.

                       73 de n8xx @ kc8tw hg (hank) -sk-

                 FIGURE I
              DIAGRAM OF THE PROPOSED NETWORK

Here's a diagram of the network in part of southern Ohio, northern
Kentucky, and southeast Indiana.  Exact sites are not critical, as long as
nodes can hear each other, and are approximately on the circumferernce of a
circle.  A few calls are listed, as the holders are currently active in
packet and helping with networking in various ways.  I did not
intentionally ignore others who may be helping with the networking efforts.

            PIQUA                    ?????
            R B,?,?                  R,
            T ?
              !
              !                        !
              !                        !
              !                        !
              !                        !
\                     !                        !
 \                  Dayton                  Columbus         Zanesville
to Brookville       N8NN-?/145.07           K1LT-?
& Indiana          /     \                 /R A,C,E            R A,C,E
 N8GTC-?          /R A,C,E\               / T F    \          /T D \
     \ R A,C,E   / T B     \             /          \        /      \
      \T D      /           \           /            \      /        \
       \       /             \         /              \    /          \
    \     /               \       /                \  /            \
     N8XX-?/144.91        WA8ERQ-?/145.05       Logan         Caldwell
    Fairfield              Washington            R A,D,F       R B,D,F
       ! R B,F,D           Court House           T E!          T A !
       ! T A             R B,D,F!                   !              !
       !                 T C    !                   !              !
       !                        !                   !              !
       !                        !                   !              !
       !                        !                   !              !
       !                        !                   !              !
      KA4BCD-?/144.95        NK8T-?/145.01?      Wellston   Parkersburg
      Walton,Ky              Hillsboro           /R A,C,E      R A,C,E
     / R E,A,?              /R C,E,?\           / T B   \      T F/
    /  t F \               /  t D    \         /         \       /
       /        \             /           \       /           \     /
      /          \           /             \     /             \   /
 to Carrolton     \         /             Portsmouth          Gallipolis
 & Louisville      \       /               R B,D,F             R B,D,F
            \     /                T A                 T C
           Falmouth
        WB9TPG-?
        R F,D,?!
          t E  !
               !
             To Lexington



b     f       d      b       f       d

   c      e      a       c       e       a


   d      b      f       d       b       f

e     a      c       e       a       c


b     f      d       b       f       d

   c     e       a       c       e       a

How about frequencies of, say 51.1 MHz, 53.9 Mhz on 6 metres,
221.11 and 223.70 on 1.25 Metres, and 44?.xx and 44(?+5).xx on
70 cm?   I know of the situation with 220 and 440 Mhz, but what
would be needed on 51/54 Mhz?

73 de n8xx@kc8tw hg -sk-


--
Gary W. Sanders (osu-cis!n8emr!gws, gws@osu-cis) (cis) 72277,1325
(packet) N8EMR @ W8CQK  (ip addr) 44.70.0.1
HAM/SWL/SCANNER BBS (1200/2400/19.2-PEP) 614-457-4227

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sun, 20 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  27

Today's Topics:
               Do I really need a TNC?
               gateway 11/4/88
               Home-brew Packet
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 15 Nov 88 22:57:39 GMT
From: mkunix..DEC.COM!jfcl.dec.com![e-mail]  (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Do I really need a TNC?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bob Tidd) writes:
>>>>I was wondering if I really need a TNC!
>>>I've proposed going to a non-HDLC layer 2...
>>>(a802.txt on ucsd.edu's /hamradio repository).
>  Fred, couldn't reach you by email.

Sorry -- my mail address is [e-mail].

>Would it be compatible with "everyone else" or take over as a viable mode?
>I'm for it on cost.  Can I get the spec via annonymous ftp?
>Is there a discussion of the relative merits and/or obstacles?
>Thanks, Bob KJ6CS

It's not compatible with anything else protocol-wise, but is compatible
with UART and USART hardware (in its respective two incompatible modes).
The spec is available via anonymous ftp from ucsd.edu, as above.
No discussion on its merits has taken place yet, but I'd like to hear
some, as it's totally squshy now, just a bunch of ideas.  (The LLC
is sort of an in-joke, once you read it, but still may be viable.)
     fred k1io

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Date: 19 Nov 88 02:25:12 GMT
From: osu-cis!n8emr![e-mail]  (Gary Sanders )
Subject: gateway 11/4/88

==============================================================
|               Relayed from packet radio via                |
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-457-4227 (1200/2400/19.2 telebit,8N1) |
==============================================================


Gateway: The ARRL Packet Radio Newsletter                       Part 1 of 4

Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU, Editor

Volume 5, Number 4                                         November 4, 1988

              Packet Radio In Taiwan

Wayne Wilson, WB8TSO, and Denton Bramwell, K7OWJ, have just returned from a
trip to Taipei, Taiwan.  While there, they operated a mini-DXpedition which
included the first authorized packet-radio operation from Taiwan.  Although
operating time was very limited, they left behind a Heathkit HK-232 digital
mode terminal unit, Heathkit SB-1400 HF transceiver and Heathkit SB- 1000
linear amplifier for future use by the China Radio Association club
station.

First connect to the station was Joe, DU1JMG, in Manila tt 0840Z on October
15, 14.107 MHz.  Look for Tim Chen, BV2A or BV2B, and the other helpful and
friendly China Radio Association club members on 20-meter packet radio in
the future.

from Wayne Wilson, WB8TSO, of Heathkit

            New TexNet Software RELEASE

The Texas Packet Radio Society (TPRS) announced a new release (Version 1.2)
of the TexNet software which includes new commands and functions.  "CQ @
odename" allows users to ragchew with unknown users via the network.
Multiple Packet Message Servers (PMS) and Weather Information Servers (WXI)
units can be installed and routed to via the network.  "M @ nodename"
routes the user automatically to that node's PMS.  If the node does not
have a PMS or WXI unit installed, an information message is returned to the
user.  "W @ nodename" connects the user to the weather information server
at the named node.

A default PMS and WXI is also allowed at each node so that a user need
enter only one letter to get routed to the "local" PMS or WXI.  The
defaults for both functions can be separate units.  One hard drive
sub-system at a single node can serve both PMS and WXI functions.  For WXI
messages, the node with the WXI system must be programmed for the desired
weather products.

The TexNet source code is TEXNET.ARC. The object code is MAIN12.HEX and the
information for customizing the object code EPROM is MAIN12.DOC.  All of
the code and documentation may be downloaded from CompuServe's HamNet.
Questions should be addressed to Bill Wade, WD5HJP, or to TPRS at PO Box
831566, Richardson, TX 75083-1566.

from Bill Wade, WD5HJP via CompuServe's HamNet

              W0RLI PBBS VERSION 8.09

Version 8.09 of the W0RLI PBBS software is now available from the usual
sources.  This version fixes the bug in the M command when used with
distribution lists.  (Note from N8XX: Current version is 9.00)

            NEW Xerox PBBS code release

A new version of the Xerox PBBS code has been released that supports BIDs
and the SID.  The code is fully compatible with current versions of both
the WA7MBL and W0RLI PBBS software.  The release now contains the W9ZRX BBS
list.

If you would like a copy of the code, please send two 8-inch disks with a
self-addressed, stamped disk-mailer to John Bennett, N4XI, 5805 Whitethorne
Dr, Evansville, IN 47710.  Note that two disks are required and source code
is no longer being released.

Please be sure that the return disk-mailers are suitable and sufficient
return postage is included (check with the post office before shipping to
be sure you include enough postage).  As with previous releases, packages
received failing to meet these requirements will not be processed.

from John Bennett, N4XI @ N4XI

             RiverLAN FALL CONFERENCE

One of the more important aspects of packet-radio operation is the
opportunity for packet-radio operators to get together to discuss the many
facets of their interests and to obtain answers to questions and concerns.
In the fall of 1986, a band of 12 packet-radio operators in the La Crosse,
Wisconsin and Winona, Minnesota area got together to discuss such things.
The interest was so high and the excitement so great that they decided to
get together every six months and call their meeting a "packet conference."
The gang found that each and every conference attracted more and more hams
interested in packet radio.  The most recent conference, the RiverLAN
Packet Conference, was held on October 22 and attracted 35 packet-radio
enthusiasts from as far away as the Twin Cities in Minnesota and Milwaukee,
Wisconsin.

If you have never heard Carl Estey, WA0CQG, talk about amateur satellites
in the context of "90-minute whizzers" and "half-day hummers," then you
have missed a real treat.  Carl gave an excellent and well-organized
presentation on digital communications from spark gap to packet radio and
emphasized, in an easy to understand offering, satellite packet-radio
communication.  Carl discussed the current OSCAR 13 as well as future
satellites including PACSAT, which will provide store-and- forward
capabilities similar to current PBBS operation.

TCP/IP has been a subject of interest to RiverLAN packet-radio operators
for quite a while.  Dan Frank, W9NK, came for a follow- up presentation to
the last conference on the subject of TCP/IP.  Many of our regional
packet-radio operators are attempting to implement TCP/IP in conjunction
with the current NET/ROM network and Dan provided assistance to those
attempting to get up and running and how to set up for forwarding on the
NET/ROM network.

For those not interested in TCP/IP, an alternative workshop was offered on
general packet-radio discussions.  Among the many topics discussed in this
session was the subject of interfacing TNCs with various computers, for
example, the possibility of AEA plug-in software for the Commodore 64 and
PK-232 being used with other TNCs (the conclusion was that it could not be
done).

Also discussed in this session was a drawback of the current WA7MBL PBBS
software (Version 5.12): the default "private" messages.  In general, the
conclusion was that it is sometimes interesting and informative to "read
the mail" meant for others and valuable tips can often be found by doing
so.

Another topic was trying to keyboard outside of the local LANs.  A proposal
was put forth to attempt to develop a user data base with such things as
the time a station is in operation, frequency of operation, nearest
digipeater, home PBBS, etc.  No specific methodology of implementing such a
database was proposed, however.

These concurrent sessions went well beyond their time limitations.
Fortunately, they were the last sessions of the day.  It seems that the
discussions and interest dictate longer sessions!

Also discussed at the conference were a presentation by Bob Dubke, K0SIR,
on using the WD0GNK CD-ROM Callbook feature; local issues, including an
update on the RiverLAN digipeaters and discussion on Skywarn and packet
aadio; a professionally produced video presentation offered by Lyle Vogt,
KA0UDL, on the Minnesota Ham and Computer Fest; and a presentation by WAPR
representative Dan Bolander on "Networking...Where Do We Go from Here."

Of course, one of the other fine opportunities for "talking packet radio"
was during the lunch hour in which participants had the opportunity to
interact, learning what others were doing and informing others of exciting
things they were doing.  As usual, the conference was too short.  Many
would like to have had more time, but then, that is why they will probably
come back to the next RiverLAN Packet Conference in April 1989.

If your local LAN has not considered sponsoring a regional packet-radio
conference, take a cue from the RiverLAN group and do it now.  The interest
is high and the opportunities so few that groups should seize upon the
chance to sponsor a regional forum where issues, developments and questions
can be addressed.

by Duane Fruechte, W9HWQ,and Kent Helman, W9LZQ


         AMSAT Space Symposium ON FOR NEXT WEEKEND

AMSAT-NA and the Atlanta Radio Club (ARC) are putting the finishing touches
on the preparations for the Sixth Annual AMSAT Space Symposium to be held
November 11-13 in Atlanta.  This year, there will be an impressive line-up
of papers to be presented on a variety of topics including AMSAT's Phase IV
studies, MicroSat/PACSAT, advances in Digital Signal Processing and what it
means to OSCAR users, NOAA-11 weather satellite picture processing and many
more excellent papers.  Also, ARC has arranged a tour of the Cable News
Network facilities for Symposium attendees on Friday at 5 PM.  For XYLs,
ARC has arranged a "Ladies Shopping Tour" to several shopping malls on
Saturday.

For those attending the AMSAT Banquet on Saturday evening, AMSAT is proud
to have Geoffrey Perry of England's Kettering Group as its keynote speaker.
The world famous Kettering Group has been quite busy observing and
cataloging man-made space objects for the past three decades.  Also, Leo
Labutin, UA3CR, is planning to attend the Symposium and hewill be
discussing his experiences during the Polar SKITREK Expedition which
occurred earlier this year.  As in past years, there will be door prizes.
If you would like to register, please contact Martha at AMSAT Headquarters
by telephoning 301-589-6062.

from AMSAT NA News Service

                   NOVICE NOTCH

Updates to two previous Novice Notch listings follow.  The change in both
cases is the 220-MHz operating frequency.

Connecticut, Central: 223.58 MHz: KC1J and K1TKP PBBSs/KA-Nodes

New Hampshire, Nashua: 223.58 MHz: WA1OMM gateway to 145.05 MHz

from Tom Hogerty, KC1J and Paul MacDonald, WA1OMM

(Gateway would like to continue publicizing Novice packet-radio activity,
so if you know of any, please let me know, too. - WA1LOU)

                 NEW TAPR ADDRESS

Tucson Amateur Packet Radio (TAPR) has a new mailing address, as follows:
TAPR, PO Box 12925, Tucson, AZ 85732.  TAPR's telephone number remains
unchanged (it is 602-323-1710).

from Andy Freeborn, N0CCZ via CompuServe's HamNet

             PC Packet Radio Terminal

Packet Terminal Program is a packet-radio terminal program that runs on an
IBM PC (or clone) in conjunction with the AEA PK-232, AEA PK-87 and Heath
HK-232 TNCs (all modes of the PK-232 are supported except for FAX and
NAVTEX).  The program uses the TNC's "host mode" to provide on-screen
status information and separates incoming data, including monitored data,
into separate "virtual terminal screens" that are displayed on demand.  The
program also automatically merges lines which were split in two when the
transmitting station failed to enter a carriage return and automatically
word-wraps.  Lynn Taylor, WB6UUT, wrote the program and to obtain a
registered copy, contact Lynn at 463 Myrtle St, Laguna Beach, CA 92651.

from Lynn Taylor, WB6UUT

              HF Gateways use TexNet

The Texas TexNet network is being used to help tie different HF networks
together.  This is very close to the original ARRL concept of a "teleport,"
which is a regional-sized group implementing multiple stations on various
HF frequencies to allow a region to have solid connections to other
regional teleports during varying propagation conditions.  Since the
high-speed network makes it possible for any of the HF gateway stations in
Austin, Dallas, Fort Worth or San Antonio to directly connect, this allows
us to pass messages between different networks very easily.  In the
teleport definition, the individual stations were to be within quick VHF
access of each other so there would be minimum delay in passing messages
between the different nets.  TexNet has allowed us to implement this
concept over a 220-mile long "region." This activity will be fine-tuned as
more experience is gained with it.

The participating stations are, as follows:

   KB5PM       Austin      10.149 net
   WA5MWD      Murphy      10.149 net
   WY5J        Murphy      14.111 net
   WA5QZI      Seguin      14.109 net
   KA5LZQ      Rockport    No HF net

(KB5PM operates part-time at night and WY5J has some liaison to a Texas
40-meter net.)

The stations are available to all, but it is recommended that network users
from distant nodes not try to DX these mailboxes through the network.
These stations spend most of their time relaying messages.  There are other
stations in each area which primarily provide user access to the network.
You might feel like connecting to one of these stations to try out TexNet,
and that is okay.  However, please remember that each connection may delay
other messages from getting through.

We are having some problems with the lack of a good Layer Three interface.
This is a problem which all network designers have had to work around and I
hope a better solution can be found in the future.  If provided, this could
allow different networks to connect together much more easily.

by David Cheek, WA5MWD, from TPRS Quarterly Report

                   HELP!

Packet radio TNC emulator software for the Radio Shack Model III computer
is sought by Mike Herr, WA6ARA.  Richcraft Engineering formerly sold such
software, but they no longer have it, so Mike needs your help.  His address
is 613 Rebel Rd, Ridgecrest, CA 93555.

               GATEWAY CONTRIBUTIONS

Submissions for publication in Gateway are welcome.  You may submit
material via the US mail to:

   Gateway
   Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU
   75 Kreger Drive
   Wolcott, CT 06716-2702

or electronically, via CompuServe to user ID 70645,247.

             REPRODUCTION OF GATEWAY MATERIAL

Material may be excerpted from Gateway without prior permission,
provided that the original contributor is credited and Gateway is
identified as the source.



--
Gary W. Sanders (osu-cis!n8emr!gws, gws@osu-cis) (cis) 72277,1325
(packet) N8EMR @ W8CQK  (ip addr) 44.70.0.1
HAM/SWL/SCANNER BBS (1200/2400/19.2-PEP) 614-457-4227

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Date: 11 Nov 88 10:39:08 GMT
From: mcvax!ukc!stc![e-mail]  (David Steele)
Subject: Home-brew Packet

I am interested in getting on to Packet Radio but would like to take the
home-brew approach.   I would like to build an add on board and write the
software that would allow a micro to run AX.25 instead of building a seperate
TNC.   I would be interested if anybody has done this and if so what
the basis of the design was . ie. what chips were used, which micro etc.

Please e-mail me at the address below.

David Steele. G8UPO  <[e-mail]> || ...!mcvax!ukc!stc!dsteele
STC TNDD, Harlow Technical Centre, 20-22 Edinburgh Way, Harlow. Essex

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon, 21 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  28

Today's Topics:
 Attention AMPRNet address coordinators, it's that time of year again
             gateway of articles
               On-Line Callbook
              VK2SG rtty report 11/18/88
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Date: 20 Nov 88 20:25:44 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (the Automatic Hosts.Net Program)
Subject: Attention AMPRNet address coordinators, it's that time of year again

Yes, it's time for me to make up the master hosts.net database again, so
if you'd take a few moments to send me your hosts.net file for the areas
you coordinate, I'd appreciate it.  It would be extremely nice if you'd
follow the format below, since I'm using an extremely stupid awk script
to handle this stuff, and things that don't follow the format and bomb
the awk script are likely to get dumped in the bitbucket and then I have
to go rescue it by hand.  Arrgh.  As if I weren't busy enough already.

At the beginning, I'd like to have
1.      Header line: '# ",your subnet, a tab, your name, a tab, callsign,
    a tab, and your coordination area.
2.      the coordinator contact information as you would have it
    published, as fewer than 10 comment lines.

Following that, one entry line for each registered address:
    44.1.2.3^Ihostname
or
    44.1.2.3^Ihostname^I#comment

Notes: ^I is a SINGLE TAB CHARACTER. The line must NOT be longer
than 80 characters with tabs set every 8 columns, must begin in column
one, and can be in mixed case. Leading zeros on host numbers look neat
but confuse a LOT of software, so they shouldn't be used. Also, I'm
going to store these in the registered ampr.org. domain, so you don't
have to put that part of the hostname in (i.e., 'WB6CYT' instead of
'WB6CYT.AMPR.ORG', please.  And please use 'pc.wb6kdt' rather than
'pc.wb6kdt.ampr.org', of course.)

Additionally, comment lines may be included, and are signified as such
by having a '#^I' (sharp,TAB) as the first two characters on the line.
Again, no more than 80 characters on a line, PLEASE, because this stuff
has to pass through BITNET mailers which think they're still punching holes
in Hollerith cards.  BTW, if the file gets too big, I may have to elide the
comment lines, so don't put your life story or the bylaws of you local
ham club in there.  Remeber that decorticated IBM-PKlones have to read
through this stuff in less than a day, eh?

I'd hope to get this all collected SOON, so that I can publish it around
the first of the year.

Mail your file to '[e-mail]' (Bitnet: AMPRADDR@UCSD,
uucp: ucsd!ampraddr) where it will be automagically stored and
processed.

BTW, if you have a neighboring coordinator who does not have network
access, it would be incredibly kind of you to mail his info in for him,
or perhaps such isolated people could mail me an IBM-PC 5-1/4" floppy
with the address info on it if they have no other way to send the info.

Thanks one and all for your cooperation!
    - Brian

Here's an example:

# 44.8  Brian Kantor    WB6CYT  Calif: San Diego
#
#       Brian Kantor WB6CYT
#       Mail Code C-010
#       University of California, San Diego
#       La Jolla, CA 92093
#       [phone] (w)
#       [e-mail]

44.8.0.1        WB6CYT  # Brian Kantor, San Diego CA
44.8.0.2        WB6HHV
44.8.0.3        KA6IQA
44.8.0.4        WB6KDT
44.8.0.5        N6NKF   # Franklin Antonio
44.8.0.6        WA2QMI
44.8.0.7        WA2VFN
44.8.0.8        KB5MU
44.8.0.9        WA6SMN  # Mark Edwards
44.8.0.10       KA6IQA-2
44.8.0.11       KA6IQA-3
44.8.0.12       KA6IQA-4
44.8.0.13       WB7TRH
44.8.0.14       KB6QH
44.8.0.15       KD6QI
44.8.0.16       N6CQW
44.8.0.20       xenix.wa6smn
44.8.0.21       WA6VQZ
44.8.0.101      3b2.wb6cyt
44.8.0.102      pc.wb6cyt
44.8.0.103      sun.wb6cyt
44.8.0.104      unix-pc.wb6cyt
44.8.0.186      ps186.wb6cyt

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Date: 20 Nov 88 00:02:28 GMT
From: att!mtuxo!mtgzz![e-mail]  (y.z.tang)
Subject: gateway of articles

From time to time, I've seen the same articles on this newsgroup (and
ham-radio) as on my local packet BBS.  Just wondering how these
articles get from one system (UUCP) to the other (packet) and/or
vicerversa.  (please respond to WA2ISE@KD6TH because I'm at a friend's
terminal who I am visiting).
73 de WA2ISE

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Date: 20 Nov 88 19:33:48 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!lad-shrike![e-mail]  (R M Kriss)
Subject: On-Line Callbook

E: Posting #868 to On-Line Callbook

Just got around to reading your posting on 'OnLine Callbook on USENET.'

I have used the WA4ONG REQQTH procedure for some time and would
like to make a suggestion to improve your posting.

    S REQQTH @ WA4ONG
    Call1,call2,call2 @ yourHomeBBScall

The only difference is the 'your home bbs' on the subject line. With this
addition, WA4ONG reads your call from the header and sends the reply msg
to your call @ the specified BBS. For example, to get your address:

    WB2HBZ @ KB5PM

The reply will be addressed to me (KD5VU) @ KB5PM (my home bbs)

73 de Dick Kriss
KD5VU @ KB5PM
[e-mail] (ARPANet)

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Date: 20 Nov 88 20:45:28 GMT
From: osu-cis!n8emr![e-mail]  (Gary Sanders )
Subject: VK2SG rtty report 11/18/88

==============================================================
|               Relayed from packet radio via                |
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-457-4227 (1200/2400/19.2 telebit,8N1) |
==============================================================


VK2SG RTTY Dx #92, 11/18/88

RTTY DX NOTES FOR WEEK ENDING NOVEMBER 18, 1988.

THE PAST WEEK HAS NOT BEEN GOOD FOR DX.  EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS THE WAE DX
CONTEST DURING THE WEEKEND, IT DID NOT SEEM TO BRING MANY NEW ONES ON THE.
AIR.  BUT WE KEEP HOPING FOR BETTER THINGS SOON.  OUR THANKS GO TO OD5NG,
TG9VT, W9CD AND VK2EG FOR SOME OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

BANDPASS:

FRIDAY
OA4CN     0138Z  14090 KHZ
PZ1DX     0155Z  14094 KHZ  QSL
FR5DL     0320Z  14096 KHZ
CT3BX     1513Z  28094 KHZ
SU1ER     1830Z  14074 KHZ  ARQ
5N9SRC    2255Z  14095 KHZ  QSL

SATURDAY
OA4BR     0210Z  14089 KHZ
HC8VB     0211Z  14091 KHZ
C56/6W6JX 1930Z  21089 KHZ  NOTE/QSL
  AND     2045Z  14084 KHZ
EL2JJ     2045Z  21092 KHZ  QSL
4M5RY     2255Z  14083 KHZ  NOTE
5N9SRC    2255Z  14093 KHZ
UZ4FWO    2336Z   7037 KHZ  NOTE

SUNDAY
C56/6W6JX 0025Z  14090 KHZ
OA4ZV     0347Z  14085 KHZ
OD5NG     0500Z  14074 KHZ  ARQ
HI8BG     1229Z  14093 KHZ  QSL
4M5RY     1330Z  28082 KHZ
HP1AC     1500Z  28082 KHZ  QSL

MONDAY
9K2EC     1950Z  14082 KHZ
9K2KA     2002Z  28092 KHZ  QSL

TUESDAY
UM9MWA    0207Z  14089 KHZ
CT3BX     0220Z  14095 KHZ
OD5NG     0315Z  14074 KHZ  ARQ
5B4PW     0439Z  14072 KHZ  ARQ
HI8DG     2035Z  14098 KHZ  QSL

WEDNESDAY
FK8BK     0735Z  14074 KHZ  ARQ
TF3LB     1230Z  28082 KHZ
6T6MG     2150Z  14086 KHZ

THURSDAY
CT3BX     0150Z  14086 KHZ
CO2BB     0154Z  14093 KHZ
FK8FO     0510Z  14083 KHZ  QSL

QSL INFORMATION:
FOR THE GAMBIA OPERATION, C56/6W6JX CARDS SHOULD BE SENT VIA F6FNU.
PZ1DX QSLS VIA BOX 2163, PARAMARIBO, SURINAM
5N9SRC QSLS VIA  BOX 1915, SOKOTO, NIGERIA
EL2JJ QSLS VIA KN0J
HI8BG QSL VIA BOX 163-9, SAN DOMINGO, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
HP1AC VIA BOX 600583, EL DORADO, PANAMA
9K2KA  BOX 30, SAFAT, KUWAIT
FK8FO TO BP 7133, NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
QSL CARDS FOR THE KH5 OPERATION ARE BEING RECEIVED, BUT FROM THE INFOR-
MATION THERE WERE ONLY 55 RTTY CONTACTS ON KINGMAN REEF AND A LOT LESS ON
PALMYRA.  OH WELL, MAYBE NEXT TIME THERE WILL BE AN RTTY OPERATOR GOING
ALONG.

NOTES OF INTEREST:
THE GAMBIA (C56) OPENG THE CONTEST.
UZ4FWO IS THE FIRST UZ4 STATION HEARD ON 7 MHZ.  WE HOPE TO HEAR MORE OF
THE RUSSIANS ON THAT BAND.
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT VU2JX AND A GROUP OF INDIAN AMATEURS HAVE
REQUESTED A LICENSE FOR OPERATION FROM THE LACADIVE ISLANDS (VU7) FOR
THE 3RD AND 4TH WEEK OF JANUARY.  THIS WILL BE AN RTTY OPERATION ONLY.
FURTHER INFOMATION AS SOON AS PERMISSION HAS BEEN GRANTED.
GL DE DX1 (VK2SG).

Edited for packet distribution by Tad, KT7H @ KE7OM.

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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #29
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue, 22 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  29

Today's Topics:
       Packet Radio program for  M A C I N T O S H ???
                Picture Packet
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 88 11:41:53 MEZ
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Packet Radio program for  M A C I N T O S H ???

Date: 21 November 1988, 11:25:08 MEZ
From: Michael Hartje            [phone]     MAMI     at DHVRRZN1
To:   PACKET-RADIO at WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY

Hello world,

does there exist ... ? does anybody know ...? do you have ...?

a program for the APPLE MACINTOSH for PACKET RADIO terminal to
use the TNC2 Hostmode WA8DED??? May be there is only a software
projekt to be realized in the near future...?

I Know of a multi windowing program -- software -- using this
multiconnect hostmode of WA8DED for the ATARI as well as for the
IBM-PC (Turbo-pascal 4.0 implementation)... But as I am sitting
in Europe the MAC is not very often to meet with Ham-stations...
Nobody knows of a solution for the MAC.. ???

Anybody out there, who knows a bit more? Please let me know..

Michael, DK5HH @ DK0MAV or for all the other fellows:
MAMI @ DHVRRZN0.BITNET

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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 88 14:25:52 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Chris Novy)
Subject: Picture Packet

I am working on a project to send a weather radar picture a "local"
(35 air miles away) TV station to our Emergency Operations Center (EOC).
The distance, terraine, power requirements, and expense, will make
traditional ATV impractical.  I was thinking of of using a computer
at the radar site to digitize and crunch the radar image into a binary
file that could be relayed via packet and then reassembled at the EOC.
Several recent articles about sending pictures with packet have mentioned
software such as "ComputerEyes" and the use of graphic digitizer cards
like those used for desktop publishing.  Does anyone out there in netland
have any suggestions regarding how I can digitize a composite high-res
video picture and recover it on the receiving end?  Cost is obviously
a major concern since I may be the main sponsor of this project.  If
all works out, I will install a low-power ATV transmitter at our EOC
to retransmit the pictures allowing our local SKYWARN participants to
receive the pictures with a simple downconverter instead of needing
a computer.

                          Chris Novy - WA9V
                          EC, Jackson Co., IL.
                          BITNET: AXVSCCN@UICVMC

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Wed, 23 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  30

Today's Topics:
             9600 Baud Modem Availability
                packet
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 88 18:57:03 N
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 9600 Baud Modem Availability

A forwarded message follows:
----------------------------

[12718] BX  BID: G3RUH88292
Path: SK0TM!SM5BKI!DK0MAV
Date: 29 Oct 88 14:21:08 Z
From: G3RUH@DK0MAV
To: MODEM@ALL
Subject: 9600 BAUD MODEM AVAILABILITY

de DB2OS @ DK0MAV

           G3RUH's  9600 Baud Modem Availability
           -------------------------------------
 The board of TAPR (USA) have decided not to market modem PCBs on my
behalf.  If you want to know the reason, ask TAPR.
 However, you CAN obtain PCBs from two sources.  One of course is direct
from me.  This really is NO problem.  Readers of who know me will attest
that, unlike many "proper" organisations who simply  ignore letters, all
my correspondence is dealt with the same day it arrives.
 The second source is: Pac-Comm Packet Radio Systems Inc, 3652 W. Cypress
Street, Tampa, Florida 33607-4916 Tel: [phone].  Thanks Gwyn.
 A full description of the modem appears in the 7th ARRL Computer
Networking Conference Proceedings, pages 135-140, and is the ONLY
deliverable item of hardware to feature in this issue.
    Let me reiterate.  The modem has two outstanding advantages:
        ***  1. It works.   2. It's available.  ***
 The second batch of 100 PCBs sold out in 28 days, and the 3rd is on its
way.  Groups around the world are rapidly taking up up this real advance
in packet traffic movement to improve their systems.
 Just one example; Nord><Link, who brought you TheNet, have taken 25 of
the 9600 baud modem PCBs to re-vitalise the German Network.  They need
fruit today - not jam tomorrow.  So do I!
 Perhaps readers could post/flood this bulletin on their BBSs etc.
 Best wishes from: James Miller G3RUH, 3 Benny's Way, Coton, Cambridge,
CB3 7PS, England. Tel: [phone]                    [1988 Oct 18]

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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 88 10:17:54 MST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: packet

How does one access the packet interest files on this machine?

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Thu, 24 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  31

Today's Topics:
             PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #30
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 88 11:04:28 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #30

please remove me from this list.  Thanks.

Barry

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Fri, 25 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  32

Today's Topics:
                 ARRL award?
            Packet program for Atari 800?
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Date: 23 Nov 88 15:09:44 GMT
From: pyramid!prls!philabs!briar.philips.com![e-mail]  (Robert Casey;6282;3.57;$0201)
Subject: ARRL award?

Has the ARRL made up an award: " ***CONNECTED TO ALL STATES " (CAS) for
packet operators?  It would probably require that you connect to at
least one station in every state, without using digipeaters or nodes to
relay your signal.  It would be like the "Worked all States" award.
Most of the connections would obviously need to be made on HF.  Guess
you'd need to get QSL cards, or would computer printouts be trusted
(use a Honor system, trust that no-one lies).  Question: would we
accept connecting to BBS's, nodes, digipeaters or would we want
connections to live operators only?  What about busy signals (it is a
contact of sorts, but if they're allowed, it could encourage a pile-up
on a rare station.  So, no busy signals would be accepted.)

73 de WA2ISE

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Date: 23 Nov 88 14:29:16 GMT
From: pyramid!prls!philabs!briar.philips.com![e-mail]  (Robert Casey;6282;3.57;$0201)
Subject: Packet program for Atari 800?

Are there any programs written for the Atari 800 for use with packet?
Right now, I'm using terminal emulator software, but would like something
more oriented to packet.  Is the WA8DED program for the 800 or the ST?
73 de WA2ISE

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Date: Sun, 27 Nov 88 01:30:58 MST
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sun, 27 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  33

Today's Topics:
                   KA-NODE
            TCP/IP for Macintosh (2 msgs)
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Date: 26 Nov 88 13:55:06 GMT
From: blft1![e-mail]  (Gregg Houck SysOp)
Subject: KA-NODE

  This may seem to be a dumb question but, what is KA-NODE.
Kantronics advertises it, but doesnt explain what it is.
I am assuming KA-NODE is Kantronics version of NET/ROM..
If this is so then the question is, whats the difference??

TNX

Gregg Houck WA3WNE
...psuvax1!blft1!gah

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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 88 21:58:41 MST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TCP/IP for Macintosh

How can I get a copy of the Macintosh version of TCP/IP?
I ordered it from TAPR in June and have heard nothing, even though I sent
a followup with my membership renewal in Sept.
Jerry DA2CY/K7UPJ

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Date: 26 Nov 88 22:55:52 GMT
From: apple![e-mail]  (Patty Winter)
Subject: TCP/IP for Macintosh

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>How can I get a copy of the Macintosh version of TCP/IP?
>I ordered it from TAPR in June and have heard nothing, even though I sent
>a followup with my membership renewal in Sept.


Jerry (et al),

As far as I know, TAPR has never supported the Mac version.

The current development is being done here in the Bay Area. For
a disk of the current version (considered Beta--caveat emptor),
send an 800K disk (with a disk mailer and return postage) or $5
to:
    Doug Thom N6OYU
    1405 Graywood Drive
    San Jose, CA 95129

He's also on the net as "[e-mail]".


73,
Patty

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Patty Winter N6BIS                        DOMAIN: [e-mail]
AMPR.ORG: [44.4.0.44]                     UUCP: {decwrl,nsc,sun}!apple!winter
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 01:30:25 MST
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon, 28 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  34

Today's Topics:
         New multiuser BBS program available
             TCP/IP for Macintosh
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Date: 26 Nov 88 18:01:54 GMT
From: mcvax!enea!kth!osiris!sics.se![e-mail]  (Anders Klemets)
Subject: New multiuser BBS program available

Here's another forwarded message:

[13848] B   BID: 8117_WB9TPG
Path: SK0TM!SM5BKI!GB7BNI!LA6CU!LA3T!LA6HX!4X1RU!N4QQ!N4QQ!N6VV!W9ZRX!N8GTC
Path: KI4UN!KF4NB!WB9TPG
Date: 25 Nov 88 23:24:38 Z
From: WB9TPG@WB9TPG
To: ALL@EU
Subject: New multiuser BBS program available


Announcing "BB" (Bulletin Board)
--------------------------------
  These is a new BBS program available for the IBM PC/XT/AT/PS2 or compatible
series of computes.  It's called "BB" and was written by H. Roy  Engehausen
(AA4RE).  It is available for FREE and source code IS available (also free).
Roy also wrote the MBBIOS COM port drives used by MBL and RLI systems.

I am acting as a distribution point for ROY so he can spend more time writing
enhancements.

BB is a TRUE multi-user BBS program
-----------------------------------
  On existing MBL and RLI systems you must run DESQview or DoubleDOS and have
multiple copies running to allow multiple users to connect.  Even then
you are limited to only ONE user per TNC.

  BB removes these restrictions:

  1) You do not need DESQview or DoubleDOS,  BB contains its own internal
     multitasking executive.  Each additional user only requires 12K bytes
     of memory.

  2) BB does not limit you to ONE user per TNC.  BB allows multiple users
     on each TNC at the same time.  You could have several users connected
     to each TNC and still forward all at the SAME TIME.

Extra Features
--------------
  BB includes a built-in text editor so you can edit messages and
forward files without interrupting any users or taking the BBS down.

  BB uses windowing on your terminal,  you have a monitor window, a
connect window and a operator window.

TNCs supported
--------------
  BB uses "host mode" to communicate with the TNC.  You must replace the
EPROM in your TNC (some TNCs have it built in already) in order to use BB.
Host Mode allows the computer to maintain strict control of the computer
to TNC link.  The TNC never sends anything to the computer with out the
computer asking (polling) for it first.

  BB supports the following TNCs:

  - TNC-1           -  Requires WA8DED TNC1 EPROM installed.
  - TNC-2 or clone  -  Requires WA8DED TNC2 or NORD<>LINK EPROM installed.
               The NORD<>LINK EPROM does seem to work better.
  - PC-1XX card     -  Handled by MBBIOS and BB
  - PK-232          -  Host mode built in already
  - PC*PA           -  Handled by MBBIOS and BB
  - PK87            -  Use PK87DED EPROMS or its built in Host Mode.


How to get BB
-------------
  I am distributing BB via diskette mailers.  To get it send me a diskette
mailer with the necessary number of FORMATTED 5 1/4" 360K diskettes.  Include
the necessary return postage and a return mailing label.  Do not send us any
money,  mailers received without the return postage (STAMPS) will not be
returned.  EPROMs will NOT be burned.  BB requires DOS 3.0 or higher.

  I am distributing the following packages:

 Number
of Disks     Description
--------     ---------------------------------------------------
   2         BB programs, BB documentation and MBBIOS 3.2
   3         Source code for BB (Turbo Pascal V5) and MBBIOS 3.2
   1         WA8DED TNC1 and WA8DED TNC2 Host Mode code (you burn the EPROM).
   1         NORD<>LINK TNC2 and PK87DED Host Mode code (you burn the EPROM).


  Send to:

   Gary Mitchell (WB9TPG)
   220 East Eagle
   Versailles, KY 40383

  Send questions to WB9TPG @ WB9TPG    73 de Gary

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Date: 27 Nov 88 19:17:07 GMT
From: tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd![e-mail]  (Mark A. Matthews)
Subject: TCP/IP for Macintosh

So what is the current version of the Mac bits?  I have 871225.30.1 Mac
version .1 (so it says here on the distribution disk).  Has anyone put the
netrom-compatible stuff in yet?  That would be nice to have up here, as I
can only reach other TCP/IP nodes via digi's and the Netrom node I would
otherwise use has had its UI digipeating turned off (grumble).

-Mark ([e-mail] -or- ..!uunet!tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mam)

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 88 01:30:53 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #35
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue, 29 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  35

Today's Topics:
                MACNET
               On-Line Packet Call Book
            PACKET TO YAESU FT23R
             TCP/IP for Macintosh
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Date: 28 Nov 88 05:44:35 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!milano!lad-shrike![e-mail]  (R M Kriss)
Subject: MACNET

cintosh Packet Radio Net   - MACNET -

If you're into RADIO and MACINTOSH computers, send us a packet and join
our most informal (but potentially most informative) Mac Packet Radio Net.
We share questions, answers, concerns, news, comments, and commradery via
packet radio to enable all of us to learn more and have more fun!

To enter MACNET: first send us your LOG IN packet.
The ADDRESS is KB1HE @ WB1DSW (Net Control)

The SUBJECT or TITLE of your message should be MACNET
And your first MACNET packet should contain your:
NAME:
CALL:
QTH:
HOME PBBS: (Where you'll receive each MACNET packet)
MAC MODELS USED:
TNC/DATA CONTROLLER:
PROGRAMS USED FOR RADIO:
RADIO MODELS USED:
MAC INTERESTS:
RADIO INTERESTS:
HINTS'N KINKS: (TIPS, QUESTIONS and ANSWERS)
OTHER MAC CONNECTIONS/INTERFACES: (BCS, COMPUSERVE, ETC)
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS/QUESTIONS FOR MACNET MEMBERS:

Your LOG IN and all future packets to MACNET NET CONTROL will be repeated
to each MACNET member automatically. Share your thoughts with MACNET and
make MACNET transmissions anytime.

Present members include: K1BT @ KQ1K - Tom,  WB8EHS @ WB1DSW - Daniel,
N1FMK @ K1UGM - Dan, VE2ESM @ VE2CSC - Jacques, WA2BSR @ K1UGM - Spencer,
KA1ACP @ W1KOO - Bruce,  NS1C @ NS1N - Ken,  VE3NVF @ VE3JF - John,  K1OPQ
@ WA1FHB -Dave,  AB1X @ WA1RAJ - Mark, and KB1HE @ WB1DSW - John.

Log in and join the fun! - 73, John - MACNET "NET CONTROL" - KB1HE @ WB1DSW

Relayed by:
    Tad, KT7H @ KE7OM to

    Ray  N6PHJ @ N6IIU to

    Dick KD5VU @ KB5PM to
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
POSTED BY Dick Kriss, KD5VU
[e-mail] (ARPANet)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: 28 Nov 88 21:11:08 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!milano!lad-shrike![e-mail]  (R M Kriss)
Subject: On-Line Packet Call Book

Several have asked me to repost the following on the WA4ONG REQQTH
procedure:

--------------- WA4ONG's REQQTH Procedure ---------------

- Have you ever worked a station for a new state and found out the
operator is not in your call book?

- Have you ever had a QSL returned from the Post Office indicating the
party has moved with no forwarding address?

- Is your call book more than a year old and out of date?

If you answered 'Yes' to any of the above, read this posting.

WA4ONG has a database of addresses for U.S. Amateurs that can be tapped
with a simple packet message. All you do is send a packet message in
accordance with a standard format and the address will show up on your
home PBBS within a few days. Most get overnight answers. The procedure
is called "WA4ONG's Request QTH" and the reply will state "From the
1988 Buckmaster Publishing CD-ROM Directory (c) 1988."

Follow the following steps:

1. Connect to your home PBBS that is set up for auto forwarding.

2. At the BBS> prompt enter:

    BBS>    S REQQTH @ WA4ONG         (ENTER OR RETURN)

3. At the subject prompt enter:

    Subject:        KD5VU @ KB5PM

The 1st call is the call sign you need the address on, the call sign
after the @ is your home BBS or where you want WA4ONG to send the
reply. WA4ONG's station will read your call sign off the packet header
and reply to the specified BBS.

3. At the enter text prompt enter:

    /EX or Control-Z

This ends the message and sends the message

4. Note there is no text at all! This is important, do not enter text!

If you want to request addresses for more than one station, just
separate the call signs by commas (KD5VU,N6PHJ @ KB5PM). There is a limit
of about four or five depending on the PBBS system being used by your
home BBS.

Try it! It works and sure was a help to me in getting the right
addresses on the final stations for my Packet WAS #5.

To avoid several inquires, the WA4ONG only addresses U.S. Hams. I do
not think the REQQTH supports DX addresses. Sorry about that! Also, I
have not tested it with Zip codes in the address. I suspect zips will
not make it.

Caution: This does not seem to work on TexNet, as TexNet assigns the
Nodal callsign to the header and the reply will be addressed to the
nodal call @ your home BBS.



73 ES GL

Dick Kriss, KD5VU
KD5VU @ KB5PM (or 78746)
[e-mail] (ARPANet)
/EX

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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 88 15:47:44 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: PACKET TO YAESU FT23R

CAN SOMEONE DRAW A SCHEMATIC  TO HOOK A YAESU FT23R 2 METER HANDHELD
TO PACKET SETUP. I CAN RECEIVE FINE AND HIT THE PTT BUT CANNOT INJECT
THE TRANSMIT AUDIO. THE HT HAS 2 JACKS-A MINI(SPK) -SUBMINI(MIC).
THE TNC THAT I AM USING IS THE DIGICOM<64  73 MAG  AUG 1988 PG22.
       THANKS   DE   WK0A     BOB

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Date: 28 Nov 88 19:41:52 GMT
From: hpda!hpcupt1![e-mail]  (Ray Terry)
Subject: TCP/IP for Macintosh

>How can I get a copy of the Macintosh version of TCP/IP?
>I ordered it from TAPR in June and have heard nothing, even though I sent
>a followup with my membership renewal in Sept.

The latest version of the Macintosh TCP/IP, along with all associated docs,
is available on MacScience BBS [phone] (1200/2400 8-N-1).

Ray
N6PHJ

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
Ray Terry                            Hewlett Packard Company
GEnie : R.Terry                      MacNET: Ray
Packet: N6PHJ @ N6IIU                UUCP  : sun!hpda!hpcupt1!rterry
Domain: [e-mail]    SysOp : MacScience BBS [phone]
IPaddr: 44.4.0.214  N6PHJ.norcal.ampr
         Standard disclaimers, etc. apply...
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Wed, 30 Nov 88       Volume 88 : Issue  36

Today's Topics:
                 ARRL award?
              Multiuser BBS (BB)
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Date: 27 Nov 88 04:33:52 GMT
From: killer!convex!iex!ntvax![e-mail]  (Greg Jones)
Subject: ARRL award?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robert Casey) writes:
>Has the ARRL made up an award: " ***CONNECTED TO ALL STATES " (CAS) for
>packet operators?

Why Yes - it's called worked all states...a friend of mine in Dallas
received a very nice looking plaque for #3 and has just submitted for
an addition for Packet WAS on 20meter only....A very tough thing to do.

I thought about attempting it myself after receiving about 30states, but
I have run out of time for HF, since I spend most of my time in packet working
on TPRS (Texas Packet Radio Society) stuff.

73 - greg

 /*---------------------------------------------------------------
  Greg Jones (WD5IVD)                  University of North Texas
                       Denton, Tx
  Dept of Computer Science             76203
  =============================================================
  Phone  : [phone]
  UUCP   : {convex,infoswx,texsun,utd,killer}!ntvax!greg
  CSNET  : [e-mail]
  BITNET : greg@untvax
  Bix    : gregj
  CIS    : 72047,3455
  Packet : WD5IVD @ WA5MWD
  TexNet : Use PMS @ DALLAS (Texas Network only)
  =============================================================
 ---------------------------------------------------------------*/

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 88 03:01 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Multiuser BBS (BB)

I am looking to a copy of both source and EXE of the BB multiuser BBS

But i cannot use the proposed procedure (stamps ,I am in Europe).
Is somebody can help me. Then i can act as distribution point in
Europe.

73s Remi HUTIN FE6CNB

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