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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sat,  3 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  37

Today's Topics:
             Is TAPR still alive?
               Looking for Den Connors
             new packet protocols
          Tech Question Re: Kenwood TW-4100A
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Date: 1 Dec 88 00:55:19 GMT
From: iris![e-mail]  (Gary Ford)
Subject: Is TAPR still alive?

I am interested in knowing if TAPR is still in business.

Back in July, I sent them a check to renew my membership and to order
some firmware and the tcp/ip disks.  I have heard nothing from them
since.  I sent a follow up letter in September and still heard
nothing, but I did get my cancelled check back recently, so there is
some form of life at their address.  I haven't tried phoning as yet,
as I'm sure they are always busy in handling requests.

Does anyone know their status?

Gary Ford, N6GF
Dept of EECS, UC Davis
[e-mail]   or [e-mail]

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Date: Friday, 2 December 1988  13:45-MST
From: ultra![e-mail] (Steve Jay)
Subject: Looking for Den Connors

Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Dennis Connors, who was
one of the inventors of TAPR.  Den and I were officemates at the
University of Arizona Computer Center in Tucson during the time he was
working on TAPR.  I haven't heard from him since he left the
University to work for Wang, which happened many, many, moons ago.
I'd be interested in contacting him now.  Do you know of Den, and
where he is now?

Thanks very much for your help.

-Steve

Steve Jay                       domain: [e-mail]
Ultra Network Technologies      Internet: ultra![e-mail]
101 Daggett Drive               uucp: ...ames!ultra!shj
San Jose, CA 95134
408-922-0100

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Date: 1 Dec 88 16:59:38 GMT
From: hpda!hpcupt1![e-mail]  (Andrew Valencia(Seattle))
Subject: new packet protocols

    The current packet protocols don't seem very well suited to large
metropolitan areas, with high-level sites and lots of low-level users all
hidden from each other.  Collsions galore, and all that.  I've been mucking
around with a design for a centrally-polled repeater configuration which
might do better, but this sort of work really requires a *group* of people.
Is anybody else working in this area?  Interested in pooling thoughts?
Drop me a note if you are.  If there's enough interest, I'll post a summary.

            73s de Andy WB6RRU

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Date: 29 Nov 88 14:20:55 GMT
From: thumper![e-mail]  (Peter Ferris)
Subject: Tech Question Re: Kenwood TW-4100A

Folks,

It appears that after approx. a year and a half, the light(s) in my Kenwood
TW-4100A have burned out.  Rather annoying at night, but I'm thankful that at
least the rig works!
The question may be obvious: Does anyone know exactly what bulb ("bub" as we
say in "5" land!) / lamp to use in the 4100?  Mfgr & Part #?  Not having a
service manual in hand, I thought I'd try here first. How's about a name and/or
number for someone intelligent at Kenwood, in tech svce. ?

Overall, I'd give this rig an "8" based on 1 - 10.

"I should be able to get this at Radio Shaft right?"
(Yeah, right!)

73 de Pete, N5KBD
[e-mail]


P.S.: By the way, if you just happen to know of (or have even HEARD of!) any
mods to this rig, I'd appreciate it!?!

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 5-Dec-88 04:52:53-MST,2486;000000000000
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon,  5 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  38

Today's Topics:
           new protocoll controling hidden stations
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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 88 09:26:00 MEZ
From: [e-mail]
Subject: new protocoll controling hidden stations

 on
>Date: 1 Dec 88 16:59:38 GMT
>From: hpda]hpcupt1][e-mail]  (Andrew Valencia(Seattle )
 writes
>Subject: new packet protocols

>    The current packet protocols don't seem very well suited to large
>metropolitan areas, with high-level sites and lots of low-level users all
>hidden from each other.  Collsions galore, and all that.  I've been mucking
>around with a design for a centrally-polled repeater configuration which
. . . . . . .
>            73s de Andy WB6RRU

right | | |

The usual solution to this problem is installing a fullduplex digi.
But this is for a much higher hardware expense occupying 2 frequencies
instead of one but giving only the throuput of 1 frequency ( channel )

But there is an other solution. And it's established on other sites
( e.g. on ships trying to communicate via orbital satelites ) which is
called DAMA ( demand assigned multiple access ).

And furthermore there is a solution underways for Packet Radio by
the german NORD><LINK group. I described a corresponding protocoll
version of DAMA in the september issue of the german PR magazin.

One highlight : no new protocol elements ( syntax ) are required
and the version is compatible with the usual AX.25 L2.
So both versions could work together on the same frequency,
but channel troughput increases as more stations are turning over
to the new version.

There might be a DAMA version of NORD><LINK's TheNet be available in
the near future, but the biggest problem is the lack of EPROM space
for the TNCs as all of the available 32kB are used right now.

I'll let you know when there's something new.

73s Detlef ( DK4EG @ DK0MAV )
c0033003 at dbstu1.bitnet  ( computer center university Brunswick )
,

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 6-Dec-88 02:07:46-MST,959;000000000000
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue,  6 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  39

Today's Topics:
                  Mac Packet
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Date: 5 Dec 88 17:33:00 GMT
From: apollo![e-mail]  (Lee Reynolds)
Subject: Mac Packet

Hi, all!

    I recall seeing, a long while ago, arather nice-looking packet-specific
    terminal program for the Macintosh. Would anyone out there know any
    names, prices etc.? I'd be grateful for any leads.


               Lee   G8LCK

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 9-Dec-88 22:46:54-MST,8740;000000000000
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Fri,  9 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  40

Today's Topics:
              Latest on Boulder Antennas
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Date: 9 Dec 88 19:16:33 GMT
From: stout.ucar.edu![e-mail]  (Kim Elmore)
Subject: Latest on Boulder Antennas

            LATEST DEVELOPMENTS ON
             ANTENNAS IN BOULDER

             (December 9, 1988)

Here are the latest developments concerning antennas in unincorporated
Boulder County.  The litigants, "Doc" Evans, NQ0I, and Tim Holzheimer,
N6DIY, have retained the law firm of Sherman and Howard.  The Attorney
of Record is now Rob Youle (pronounced like Yule).  Bob Neece, K0KR,
was instrumental in the negotiations that finally netted this firm.

An important point noted by K0KR is that none of the attorneys on this
case are Amateurs, nor do they have any particular interest in Amateur
radio.  This is an advantage because it is difficult for lawyer/hams
to view such a case with the requisite professional detachment.
Elements of the case can be overlooked because lawyer/hams become too
emotionally involved with the issues at hand.  K0KR is a lawyer/ham
and frankly admitted that Sherman and Howard have viewed things in
ways that he had not because his objectivity had been affected.
Sherman and Howard's interest in this is strictly centered about the
law.

In order to properly prepare their opening brief, Sherman and Howard
have requested, and been granted, an extension.  The opening brief
will be filed on December 9th.  The County then has 30 days in which to
file a reply brief.  After that, the litigants have 30 more days in
which to file a reply brief to the County's brief (literally a reply
to the reply).  Rob Youle estimates that the hearing probably will not
occur until next August.

Sherman and Howard believe that this case will have National
repercussions and will affect antenna legislation elsewhere in the
U.S.  In Boulder County, two Amateurs -- KG0E Mack Thompson and
WB0NIA, Lewis Ladwig -- may be forced to substantially reduce, or
possibly remove entirely, their antenna installations based on the
complaints of two people.  KG0E recently increased his total antenna
height from 64 feet to 100 feet (the 64 foot height existed prior to
any of the latest trouble).  He is retired and lives on a 5 acre
parcel abutting a commercial farm to the east.  Based on the
complaints of two individuals the County has ruled that his antenna
must be lowered to 50 feet in height.  The complainants live
one-quarter mile further southeast of KG0E and complained that the
antenna "ruined" their view of Long's Peak to the northwest.  The
hearing for WB0NIA will be held on December 22.  He lives in the same
neighborhood and currently has a 60 foot installation which also
pre-dates any of the latest legal lunacy.  Already El Paso County
(which contains Colorado Springs) is citing Judge Weinshienk's ruling
in its attempt to place restrictions on antennas similar to Boulder
County's, although somewhat more flexible.  Two Amateurs in
Breckenridge, Colorado (Summit County) have been denied permission to
install wire dipoles.  In what is probably an unrelated case near
Merced, California, an Amateur living outside the city limits has been
declared to be within the city's "sphere of influence" and been
ordered to remove his antenna system based upon a single complaint.

The firm of Sherman and Howard has agreed to provide its services for
a maximum fee of $10,000.  Actual costs will be significantly more, but
the law firm has agreed to not bill the litigants for monies in excess
of $10,000.  This is not uncommon among large law firms involved in
significant cases; they feel that the prestige of winning the case
will ultimately pay these costs in increased business.

In order to retain Sherman and Howard, the Boulder Antenna Legal
Defense Fund (BALDF) donated approximately $7,000, $2,000 of which was
loaned to BALDF by the Boulder Amateur Radio Club, and the balance was
made up by the litigants.  This loan will be repaid as soon as
possible, as funds are received by BALDF.

In keeping with BALDF policy, an accounting is included that carries
through 30 September 1988.  Added to this should be $7,000 expended in
October.

**************************************************************
           1987 Summary (August 7 to December 31)

Fund Inception - August 7, 1987

Balance 8-7-87          $      0.00
Receipts (donations)       10094.02
Disbursements               1727.89
Ending Balance              8366.13

Disbursements:
     Fund Expenses

     Mailing list             49.60
     Postage                 528.00
     Envelopes                45.28
     Checks                    3.00
     Rubber Stamps            24.00
     Printer labels,
     paper, ribbon            19.91
     Data entry labor         50.00
     Bank service charges      8.10

     Total  (expenses)       727.89

     Case reimbursement

     Consulting engineer
     report and testimony    852.89
     Court recorder and
     transcripts             147.11

     Total                  1727.89

Receipts
     Donations             10094.02

****************************************************************
      1988 First Quarter Summary (January 1 to March 31)

Beginning balance      $    8366.13
Receipts (Donations)        1044.00
Disbursements                999.79
Ending balance              8410.34

Disbursements
     Fund Expenses

     Postage           $     220.00

     Case Reimbursement

     Expert witness
     expenses                381.85
     Court recorder
     transcripts             397.94

     Total (overall)         999.79

Receipts
     Donations              1044.00

***************************************************************

          1988 Second Quarter Summary (April 1 to June 30)

Beginning balance       $   8410.43
Receipts                     682.15
Disbursements               1424.42
Ending balance              7668.07

Disbursements
     Fund Expenses

     Postage            $    500.00
     Envelopes                21.17
     Copying                 292.20
     Checks                    8.00
     Printer ribbon,
     paper, pad ink           33.35
     Labels                   13.90
     Swapmeet info table       7.00
     Stamp machine            21.20

     Total (expenses)         896.82

     Case Reimbursement

     Court recorder and
     transcripts             527.60

     Total (overall)        1424.42

Receipts
     Donations               598.00
     Interest                 84.15

     Total                   682.15

******************************************************************

           1988 Third Quarter Summary (July 1 to September 30)

Beginning balance       $   7668.07
Receipts                    2680.02
Disbursements               3946.62
Ending balance              6401.47

Disbursements
     Fund Expenses

     Postage            $    350.00
     Envelopes                12.50
     Copying                 131.83
     File folders              6.28
     Legal tablets             5.39
     Mailing labels           13.88

     Total (expenses)        519.88

     Case Reimbursements

     Real estate appraiser
     report and testimony   3037.50
     Site photos and
     enlargements            389.24

     Total (overall)        3946.62

Receipts

     Donations              2608.00
     Interest                 72.02

     Total                  2680.02
**************************************************************

Club newsletters are encouraged to make use of this posting as they
see fit.


Contributions may be sent to:

      Barbara H. McClune, N0BWS
      5338 Spotted Horse Trail
      Boulder, Colorado  80301
      [phone]

The Boulder Antenna Legal Defense Fund consists of:
    Barbara, N0BWS, chairman, 530-1872 (all area codes are 303)
    Al Beu, WA0LMQ, 665-3113           Dale

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10-Dec-88 01:43:29-MST,10292;000000000000
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sat, 10 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  41

Today's Topics:
             ARRL award? (2 msgs)
            digicom to yeasu ft23r
                   KA-NODE
       PC plug-in card holding a TNC and 2m transciever
               PS-186 and DSY?
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Date: 1 Dec 88 17:51:20 GMT
From: killer!convex!iex!ntvax![e-mail]  (Greg Jones)
Subject: ARRL award?

>Don't tell me you're trying to insist on some INTELLIGENCE being
>exchanged!  That would be a first for ham radio!  Contests requiring
>serial number or grid squares or hat sizes would be a different
>matter, of course.
>              Brian Kantor    WB6CYT  UC San Diego   [e-mail]

Lets be realistic Brian. Personally I define Worked All States as an
achievement award not a contest.  It is an award for working fellow
hams.  It is suppose to be quality not quanity, even though it requires
50 different states.  It seems to me it is suppose to try to expand
who we talk to.  Now, is it anyones falut that people turn it into
a contest of who done this or I've done that.

Now over to the packet side, I have to agree with Phil about trying
to contest over packet...like it was pointed out, contest are short
bursts of information...very similar to lets say a weather net or
so on.....now that's not packets strong point by any means...
how many weather spotting nets do you see use packet ?  Not that I have
seen and can equal a voice net....so packet works well (didn't say great -
please no flames {-: ) for exchanging longer messages, becuase of the
amount of time it takes to set up a point-to-pint connection.  This
is the strong point of any computer dtata oriented protocol...becuase
that what they were designed for to a certain extent.

Probably the answer would be ---- get another channel off away from
the normal packet operators who have enough retrys as is and let the
contesters inflict collisions among each other.


greg - WD5IVD

 /*---------------------------------------------------------------
  Greg Jones (WD5IVD)                  Dept of Computer Sciences
                       University of North Texas
                       Denton, Tx
  =============================================================
  Phone  : [phone]
  UUCP   : {convex,infoswx,texsun,utd,killer}!ntvax!greg
  CSNET  : [e-mail]
  BITNET : greg@untvax
  BIX    : gregj
  CIS    : 72047,3455
  PACKET : WD5IVD @ WA5MWD
  TexNet : Use PMS @ DALLAS (Texas Network only)
  =============================================================
 ---------------------------------------------------------------*/

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Date: 30 Nov 88 20:55:02 GMT
From: vsi1!apple![e-mail]  (Patty Winter)
Subject: ARRL award?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:
>In article <148@killdeer> [e-mail] (R M Kriss) writes:
>>The award is for two way communications. Just getting a 'connect' does
>>not count.
>
>I see.  So when I send you a connect request packet, containing
>both your callsign and mine, and your TNC hears it, and responds
>to it with a connect acknowledgement packet also containing both
>callsigns, and then I send you a disconnect request packet, and
>you respond with a disconnect aknowledgement, that's not a two-way
>communication?
>
>I suppose this is another ARRL papal bull....  Sigh.  Are those
>people so devotedly working against modern amateur radio, or is
>it just that they don't understand and never will?

Ah, Brian, but the League *does* allow just such impersonal connects
to count for Field Day. Or at least, they haven't said that they don't.
I guess you have to have real human communication for WAS, but not
for FD points.

Personally, I'm either going to stay off packet next FD, or type a
message to any station from which I get an automated response that if
they want me in their logbook, they'd better put a human being on the
keyboard to talk to me. Why should I sit there and answer their CQs,
only to be "greeted" by a computer that merely recognizes the presence
of a connect, sends a canned report (not even including my callsign,
of course), and disconnects? Grrrrrr.


Patty


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Patty Winter N6BIS                        DOMAIN: [e-mail]
AMPR.ORG: [44.4.0.44]                     UUCP: {decwrl,nsc,sun}!apple!winter
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Date: 30 Nov 88 12:37:07 GMT
From: mpgs.dec.com![e-mail]  (Chuck Partain 237-2139, RA90 Head Test Engineering)
Subject: digicom to yeasu ft23r

Bob, tried to post directly to you but no joy.
On the subject of digicom to yeasu ht hookup;



I hooked mine up. The yeasu to the digicom stuff. I had to
stick a relay in there to turn the mic line on and off
and set up the software in the c-64 to delay a bit more than
usual. I have a mic I stick directly in there and I do not use
the vox option. Leave it off, put the audio line in there and relay
the line from the ptt setup described in the magazine.

I guess if it "feels" a sudden on, it trips the mic on. At least
mine does. I have asked on the net before if anyone else had done this
but got no responces.

Have fun, drop a line if you need more info.

chuck partain
KA1MWP

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Date: 30 Nov 88 01:10:36 GMT
From: deimos!phobos![e-mail]  (Stephen J. Schallehn F88)
Subject: KA-NODE

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gregg Houck SysOp) writes:
>
>  This may seem to be a dumb question but, what is KA-NODE.
>Kantronics advertises it, but doesnt explain what it is.
>I am assuming KA-NODE is Kantronics version of NET/ROM..
>If this is so then the question is, whats the difference??

  The Kantronics KA-Node is very similar to the NET/ROM in function, but
has a different look to it.  Kantronics added this feature to all of there
packet modems.  You connect to the persons KA-Node as you would normally
connect to a NET/ROM or another packet user (You may digipeat to one) Once
connected the system will give you a small hello message with options.
You may view the stations just heard (Jheard) as well as just the other
KA-Nodes just heard (Nheard).  To connect to another user or KA-Node, simply
Connect as you would from a NET/ROM or though digi's if needed.

  The benifit to the Kantronics system are several:
    o With connecting to KA-Nodes along your path, acknolegements are sent
      locally between 2 Nodes, NOT the entire path.
    o Everyone who owns a Kantronics packet modem has a KA-Node built in.
      This allows for a larger network without additional expense.
    o You do not have to dedicate the modem to just a KA-Node, you can still
      use it normally while someone else uses your KA-Node.

  I have used a Kantronics KPC-2 for over a year and I have been VERY pleased
with it's preformance.  There are many other benifits to the Kantronics modems.
If you want more information or help, please let me know.

                      - Steve Schallehn, KB0AGD @ K0WA


--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Steve Schallehn                      |  Internet : sjs @ phobos.cis.ksu.edu
Kansas State University              |  UUCP : ..!rutgers!ksuvax!phobos!sjs
Manhattan, Kansas                    |  Bitnet   : STEVE @ KSUVM

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Date: 8 Dec 88 18:40:47 GMT
From: jfcl.dec.com![e-mail]  (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: PC plug-in card holding a TNC and 2m transciever

Putting a radio inside a PC has a lot of advantages, but it may be
awfully difficult given the hardware constraints.  The inside of a
PC is within the RF shield, so the RF board would need to be
incredibly well shielded to keep crud out, as well as keep its own
signals in.  This would probably require a tight "sandwich"
package taking up one or more slots -- probably more.

Given that constraint (and the possibiliity of building a PC enclosure
where there's some kind of internal shielding between one area and
the rest?), integrating the radio into the PC makes a lot of sense.
You can build a much better syntheseizer, for example, if your two
or three loops are not constrained to a simple mechanical tuning
arrangement but instead are optimized for program control.  (This
is because current synths typically have a narrow and wide loop,
for fine and coarse tuning, while a better deal would have two
loops that both change at the right time.)

But I haven't seen it yet.  A PC TNC card seems the closest.  Or the
IC-781, a super-costly xcvr with built-in processing, of sorts.
(Hmmm, a PC-card RF deck might dupe the 781 functions more cheaply.)
      fred k1io

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Date: 2 Dec 88 02:33:34 GMT
From: att!pacbell!tandem![e-mail]  (Kevin J. Rowett)
Subject: PS-186 and DSY?

I am looking for the place to purchase the 56Kbps WA4DSY modems.

And, I understand a DSY mailing list exists. If so, how does
one get added?

A few months ago, I received a one page flyer from GRAPES, but
have received no further replies to my enquires about purchasing
a pair (or more).

And, while I am taking up bandwith, does anyone know if the
PS-186 will see the light of day? TAPR sent out a survey for
potential kit buyers, but again, nothing.

Kevin J. Rowett
N6RCE

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sun, 11 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  42

Today's Topics:
      NORD<>LINK software available on Internet (2 msgs)
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 88 11:35:28 N
From: mcvax!nuada.sics.se![e-mail]
Subject: NORD<>LINK software available on Internet

Now that the Nordic countries are on the Internet, I have uploaded
a couple of programs to louie.udel.edu. They can be copied from there
using anonymous ftp as usual.

The programs are:

* The multiuser BBS "The Box" version 1.5 which can be found in pub/thebox
  The program is stored in self-unarcing .exe files so it will not be
  possible to extract the source files using the arc program.

* The multiscreen terminal program "Turbo Packet" version 2.5a which is
  stored as pub/turbopr.arc
  This program will inevitably give you an excellent opportunity to brush
  up your German.

The programs are also available in Europe with anonymous ftp, namely
from sics.se (192.16.123.90) and from kolvi.hut.fi (128.214.3.7).

I have not tested the programs yet, so good luck!

73's Anders SM0RGV
--
Anders Klemets                  Internet: [e-mail] (192.16.123.226)
                Packet:   [e-mail]
                      SM0RGV@SK0TM

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1988  01:28 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: NORD<>LINK software available on Internet

Now available via standard anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20:

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.PACKET>
TURBOPR.ARC.1                   BINARY  243322  53E6H

Also available is the THEBOX package:

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.PACKET>
BOOTARC.EXE.1                   BINARY  243874  B6F6H
INSTALL.BAT.1                   ASCII      188  7DF0H
READ.ME.1                       ASCII      277  955CH
SOURCARC.EXE.1                  BINARY  131999  03D5H
SYSARC.EXE.1                    BINARY  105377  FF72H
SYSOP15.ENG.1                   ASCII    66501  4548H
UPDATE.BAT.1                    ASCII     1391  C07CH

--Keith

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Mon, 12 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  43

Today's Topics:
    AA4RE multiuser BB mailbox now available from SIMTEL20
               BB mailbox now available
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1988  15:56 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: AA4RE multiuser BB mailbox now available from SIMTEL20

Version 2.2 of AA4RE's multiuser packet radio mailbox for
IBMPC-compatibles, BB, is now available on the Internet via standard
anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20 and on BITNET from the file server at
RPICICGE.

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.PACKET>
BB22.ARC.1                      BINARY  230724  32BFH
MBBIOS32.ARC.1                  BINARY   40846  CFF5H

73,
--Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74]
DDN: [e-mail]
Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 88 18:59:22 N
From: mcvax!nuada.sics.se![e-mail]
Subject: BB mailbox now available

Version 2.2 of AA4RE's multiuser mailbox for PC's, BB, is now available on
the Internet. The files can be found in the directory pub/aa4re at
LOUIE.UDEL.EDU.

I have no source code yet. For further information about the program,
look for a previous posting to rec.ham-radio.packet with Message-ID:
<[e-mail]>

(Maybe I should place this kind of programs elsewhere, like at SIMTEL20,
but unfortunately MILNET cannot be reached from my site yet.)

Good luck, Anders SM0RGV

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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue, 13 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  44

Today's Topics:
                 DAMA
              Packet-radio mailing list
                  Uploading
        What is the packet-radio mailing list?
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 88 16:59:11 MEZ
From: [e-mail]
Subject: DAMA

Several request for more info about DAMA arrived here, but some
responses from me bounced so I'll try it this way
 ( e.g. one should go to:

<ames!pacbell!att!ihlpa!ihnp4!ihopa!jdu%pasteur.Berkeley.EDU@jade.b

sorry, no chance to find such a way back )

But maybe others are interested to, so this might be not only bothering.

Here's a short overview about DAMA ( demand assigned multiple access ),
a method which might solve our hidden stations problem of digipeater
operation without the need of a duplex digi.

A DAMA net node ( usualy ) works with a connection oriented protocol.
All stations who are using an uplink are known to the digi as long
as they are working via this digi. In an established DAMA version
for communication sattelites the connect requests are made in a sloted
ALOHA method, but a simple SABM in CSMA would work as well.
The first successfull transfer of such a connect-request includes
the calling station to a userlist ( similar to the userlist of TheNet ).
From that time on the user nodes are polled by the central node where
the polls include the ACKs ( RR# ) for the received data frames
( I frames in (A)X.25 ). If there would only be idles ( RR# responses )
the polling frequency drops continuasly down to a lower limit. But a
former idling station would get highest priority back as soon as there
is at least one I-frame response. As long as the channel capacity is not
fully required the poll frequency will not reach the lower limit.But
as channel access requests increase the amount of unneccessary polls
to idle stations falls to the minimum. So the scheduling overhead of
the network  system decreases with increasing amount of data to
transfer.

So what's the advantage:
Even week stations will get their chance to work via the digi. No new
hardware is required. All protocol elements of AX25 could be used
and the usual AX25 L2 and DAMA AX25 L2 could work on the same frequency
at the same time.

disadvantage:
someone has to do the job of realization ( of course ).
But we're working on it. As I mentioned earlier the biggest problem
is the lack of free EPROM space in the TNCs as TheNet eats all of the
available 32K.

A full description of an AX25-DAMA version is printed in detail in
the september issue of PR-INFO, the german Packet-Radio-magazine.
Some very good contributions about DAMA could be found in
TRANSACTIONS ON COMMUNICATION of the IEEE.

R.F.C.


73s de Detlef ( dk4eg )                  NORD><LINK
c0033003 @ dbstu1.bitnet
Detlef J. Schmidt
computer center
university Brunswick ( ye olde one )
,

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 88 17:20 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Packet-radio mailing list

Please add me to the packed-radio mailing list....Thanx.

J. David Bavousett
KB5GHE    QTH Abilene, TX
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 88 18:55:18 EST
From: D H Bennett AMCRM-FTM  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uploading

Keith, The last time I uploaded my World Wide Packet Radio Listing
there was a special login and password and directory. Can you pass
this along again. Also there was a program to run CRC check. I need
to know the full path name to it so I can run it. I have the latest
WWPACKET files to upload. It now has gone international and contains over
3,500 call signs.

73`s Don (K4NGC)

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1988  13:13 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: What is the packet-radio mailing list?

[For Usenet readers who may have been wondering...]

The packet-radio mailing list is the same as rec.ham-radio.packet.
They are gatewayed in both directions through ucbvax.  The same
messages appear on both.  On the Arpanet side it is a digest, (i.e.
one message per day which contains several messages within), in order
to reduce the netmail load.  The digest is not edited.

73,
--Keith W8SDZ  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 88 01:30:32 MST
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Wed, 14 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  45

Today's Topics:
      NORD<>LINK multiuser BBS ver 1.5 files on Simtel20
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1988  22:48 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: NORD<>LINK multiuser BBS ver 1.5 files on Simtel20

The multiuser BBS "The Box" version 1.5 files on Simtel20 have been
repackaged into ARCs for those who perfer to be able to inspect the
member files without extracting them all.

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.PACKET>
BOX15AAA.ARC                    BINARY   32198  F6B0H
BOX15BOT.ARC                    BINARY  245398  23DAH
BOX15SRC.ARC                    BINARY  134580  2FDBH
BOX15SYS.ARC                    BINARY   95894  CAC5H

Anyone care to try their hand at translating German to English on
UPDATE.BAT and READ.ME (which are now in BOX15AAA.ARC)?

--Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74]
DDN: [e-mail]
Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 88 09:16:06 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #46
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Fri, 16 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  46

Today's Topics:
      World Wide Packet Radio Listing files uploaded to Simtel20
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Date: Wednesday, 14 December 1988  11:23-MST
From: D H Bennett AMCRM-FTM <[e-mail]>
Subject: World Wide Packet Radio Listing files uploaded to Simtel20

I have just uploaded the following World Wide Packet Radio Listing
files to Simtel20's PD1:<MSDOS.PACKET> directory:

WW-LIST.ARC - This has two arc'ed files within WW-LIST.ARC and the are.
         COUNTRY.ARC - Seperate files for each overseas country
         STATES.ARC  - Seperate files for each USA State

HFPACKET.ARC - Listing of HF Digipeaters and PBBS's only.

BIS-V20.ARC  - This is a program like GREP which runs under the WA7MBL
           PBBS software. It allows you to search certain databases
           for information and list that info. My WWPACKET file is
           included as one of the databases. It allows you to search
           for a PBBS in a named city.

73's Don (K4NGC)

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 88 01:30:41 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #47
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Sat, 17 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  47

Today's Topics:
             Getting a Net/Rom??
         Introducing CONVERS mode for TheNet
              ROSE X.25 Switch available
           ROSE X.25 Switch available from Simtel20
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 15 Dec 88 23:52:00 GMT
From: hamal.usc.edu![e-mail]  (Dick Mead)
Subject: Getting a Net/Rom??

A friend of mine would like to get a Net/Rom. Can someone post or e-mail
the address and phone number to place such an order?   Or should he just
get TheNet?
Thanks
Dick WB6NGC <[e-mail]>

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 88 11:22:54 MEZ
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Introducing CONVERS mode for TheNet

Hello PR world \n

several ideas arrived here how the features of TheNet could be
upgraded or what new features should be added. As mentioned in
earlier postings there was allways the lack of free EPROM space.

But here is a special new solution:

CONVERSATIONAL mode for TheNet

This CONVERS mode overcomes a lack of packet radio which you don't
find in other parts of HAM radio : buildung groups of several HAMs
all talking to each other.

And this is how it works:
You connect the CONVERS node via the usual CONNECT commands of
TheNet and get the message:
( from the Brunswick digi in this example )

BS:DB0FC> Connected to BSCONV:DB0FC-2

BSCONV:DB0FC-2> Mini-Convers. Type /HELP for help.

Follow this instruction, type /HELP and you'll get:

Commands may be abbreviated. Commands are:
/?                   Print help information
/BYE                 Terminate the convers session
/CHANNEL n           Switch to channel n
/EXIT                Terminate the convers session
/HELP                Print help information
/INVITE user         Invite user to join your channel
/MSG user text       Send a private message to user
/QUIT                Terminate the convers session
/WHO                 List all users and their channel numbers
/WRITE user text     Send a private message to user
***

To find out who's just working via this node you follow this
instructions and enter /who  ( upper or lower case or abbreviated )

you'll might geht this response

User     Circuit           Channel
DD1HL    HH2:DL0TEL        0
DK4EG    BS:DB0FC          0
DC6QE    GOE:DB0FE         16
DK5AH    GOE:DB0FE         16
DF3AV    BS:DB0FC          0
***

This means by default you'll allways be connected to virtual channel 0.
Up to 255 virtual channels might be established on one CONVERS node.
It doesn't matter from what uplink node you connect the CONVERS node.
As lang as you stay on your channel you'll get informed by the
CONVERS node if new users signon to this channel:

*** DL8ZAW signed on.

and you'll get all messages typed by all users of your channel
( but you won't get back your own message ! Why should you ? ) :

<DL8ZAW>:  Hello to everyone on this channel

But you can send messages to only one user of the channel as well
by typing

/MSG DK4EG have you got my new firmware release in the meantime ?

so on my screen I'll see:

<*DL8ZAW*>:  have you got my new firmware release in the meantime ?

The * sign tells me this was a private message. And you found out
all messages preceded by a / ( slash ) sign are directed to the
command interpreter of the CONVERS node.
Furthermore you may include other HAMs of other channels to your
channel by inviting them to join your group.

By means of the multiconnect features of TheNet you could
be signed on to 16 different QSOs, each with ( theoretical )
unlimited number of users.

So what do you need if you decided to install the CONVERS mode at your
site?

Just add a further TNC2 ( clone ) to your node via the diode matrix
on RS232 side and plug in the new firmware. You don't need the
modem on the TNC board if you omit the radio channel.
At our Brunswick digi we have installed 6 TNCs via the RS232 side
without any trouble yet.

The CONVERS  firmware is derived from TheNet sources by replacing
most user command parts. It was written by Frank ( DL8ZAW )
and the firmware is running here under Betatest conditions in
severals nodes on different sites.
It shall be available to everyone who might be interested just
for the charge of copying and handling expense. As soon
as there are no new bug reports for some time the shipment
of the software is to be startet. But in my opinion Frank has done a
very good job and the software seemes to be stabil since some time.
No system crashes in the meantime appeared, no RESET neccessary in
between.


So watch out for the news , I'll keep you informed.


73s de Detlef ( dk4eg )                  NORD><LINK
c0033003 @ dbstu1.bitnet
Detlef J. Schmidt
computer center
university Brunswick
,

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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 88 01:40:24 N
From: mcvax!nuada.sics.se![e-mail]
Subject: ROSE X.25 Switch available

I have uploaded to pub/rose at LOUIE.UDEL.EDU what I think is the latest
release of the ROSE X.25 Switch made by the Radio Amateur Telecommunications
Society, RATS.

Although the code is said not to be bug free it is at least supposed to
switch connections so that you can experiment a little.

The distribution contains an Intel-Hex file to burn into an EPROM for
a TNC-2 or a DR-200.
Object files and source code written in C and Z-80 Assembler is also included.
Each source file begins with an amazing 80 lines long copyright notice...

(If this distribution was already available somewhere on the Internet,
please inform me.)

Good luck,
      Anders SM0RGV

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1988  01:28 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: ROSE X.25 Switch available from Simtel20

The Rose packet switch software is also available from Simtel20.  It
has been packaged into two archives for convenient downloading.

Filename                        Type     Bytes   CRC

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.PACKET>
ROSE-A.ARC                      BINARY  294930  F78AH
ROSE-B.ARC                      BINARY  349369  A4C6H

--Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.0.0.74]
DDN: [e-mail]
Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz

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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 88 01:30:37 MST
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Subject: PACKET-RADIO Digest V88 #48
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PACKET-RADIO Digest         Tue, 20 Dec 88       Volume 88 : Issue  48

Today's Topics:
               Help Needed!!!!!
           Looking for a Radio-Modem link.
                   TNC HELP
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 88 20:08:20 EST
From: D H Bennett AMCRM-FTM  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help Needed!!!!!

I was able to pick up a C8000 Onyx Computer from a near by depot and
would like to get it fully operational. I am hoping to put the WWPACKET
files on it. The only problem is that the two Serial Disk Drives that
came with the C8000 and second drive were destroyed by the depot.
I guess they bounced them around to much with a fork lift.  Does
anyone know where I can get my hands on either 2 - 20MB or 40MB
Serial IMI drives that will run on the onyx.

Don Bennett (K4NGC)

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Date: 20 Dec 88 02:29:48 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Francois Felix INGRAND)
Subject: Looking for a Radio-Modem link.

I am looking for a commercially-available 4800/9600 Baud Radio-Modem
for short range transmission.  I need a RS232 interface between two
physically separated devices, but can't run a cable.  Is there anything
I could just plug in to each end?
--
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Francois Felix INGRAND                          SRI International, AIC
                        333, Ravenswood Avenue
[e-mail]                                MENLO PARK, CA 94025

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Date: 19 Dec 1988 07:09-CST
From: "410 BMW/SCX--KI Sawyer AFB MI" <[e-mail]>
Subject: TNC HELP

  I am using an MFJ-1274 TNC on packet with a Commodore C-128 and
Motorola Mocom 35 radio.
  My problem is with the SIO/0 chip in the TNC.  The output to the
terminal seems to burn out and give only a 0.5/0 volt output instead
of the usual TTL level of 5.0/0 volts.  This has happened several
times now.
  Has anyone else experienced this problem, or have any ideas as to
what may have caused it.  I'm getting tired of replacing this chip
every few months.
  Thanks for any help or insight anyone might provide.

73,
Michael, WA7SKG

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