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- From: choo@cs.yale.edu (Young-il Choo)
- Subject: Re: Trivial! (was: Re: Help X^2 == Y mod N)
- In-Reply-To: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu's message of Thu, 5 Nov 92 20: 40:18 GMT
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:49:50 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov5.204018.3311@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez) writes:
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- J> In article <1992Nov5.061236.3595@nuscc.nus.sg> tim@iss.nus.sg (tim poston) writes:
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- >No mathematics is trivial;
- >the trivium was grammar and rhetoric and I forget what;
- >roughly, the mediaeval equivalent of a Bachelor's.
- >
- >Mathematics (along with harmony and two others I forget)
- >was part of the quadrivium;
- >equivalent of that peculiar US invention,
- >the PhD.
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- J> Yes, if I remember correctly the trivium was logic, rhetoric and
- J> grammar, while the quadrivium was arithmetic, geometry, harmony and
- J> women's studies. (Guess which one doesn't fit - and should be
- J> astronomy.)
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- J> So - logic is trivial! Mathematics is quadrivial!
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- If I remember correctly, the trivium consisted of
- grammar
- rhetoric (which included logic) and
- poetics (or poetry, though today this would be more like "writing" or
- "composition")
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- [From Dorothy Sayers' "Tools of Learning"]
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- -- Young-il
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