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Path: sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!rutgers!cbmvax!dlarson From: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Amiga Networking FAQ (was Re: Looking for Amiga networking SW) Keywords: amiga, network, TCP/IP, novell Message-ID: <36959@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 11 Nov 92 15:33:19 GMT References: <pl159410.721437315@academ01> Reply-To: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance) Organization: Commodore Engineering Lines: 319 In article <pl159410.721437315@academ01> pl159410@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Alejandro Garza Gonzalez) writes: >What software/hardware would I go about using to connect There've been several networking questions lately which are addressed in the Amiga Networking FAQ. Since that hasn't been posted in quite a while, I'll repost the last version I saw... From cbmvax!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!sirius!gerber Mon May 18 11:11:20 EDT 1992 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site cbmvax.commodore.com Path: cbmvax!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!sirius!gerber >From: gerber@sirius.astro.uiuc.edu (Richard A. Gerber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Networking FAQs Message-ID: <1992Apr29.141821.8627@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 29 Apr 92 14:18:21 GMT Date-Received: 29 Apr 92 15:31:37 GMT Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 239 Keywords: Ethernet, X Windows, TCP/IP, Novel, Appletalk, DECnet Summary: First networking FAQ list Amiga networking FAQ -- 4/29/92 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the premier post of the Amiga networking FAQ list. This list is primarily devoted to questions about commercial products, ie. ethernet, TCP/IP, X Windows, DECnet, Novel Netware and AppleTalk. All information provided here is mean for informational purposes and is not to be taken as an endorsement for any particular product. (Note: in most cases only one company provides any given service anyway). If anyone knows of additional relevant products, let me know and they'll be added to the list. Questions about SLIP and DNET have not been included. While there have been lots of questions about these subjects on the net, there have been few if any definitive answers about them. If anyone is actually using SLIP and/or DNET and would like to handle a FAQ list about them, let me know and we can include it here. There was recently posted an AmigaNOS FAQ list. Send corrections, updates and suggestions to: gerber@sirius.astro.uiuc.edu Richard -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frequently asked questions: A. Product availability A01. What do I need to hook up my Amiga to ethernet? A02. Can I hook up an Amiga 500 or Amiga 1000 to ethernet? A03. Is X Windows available for the Amiga? A04. Is DECnet available? A05. Is AppleTalk available? A06. Is Novel Netware available? A07. Are there any peer-peer network packages for the Amiga? B. Commodore AS225 TCP/IP software B01. I can't login to my Amiga over the network. Why? B02. When I ftp to some hosts, I get part of an introductory message and then either the network hangs up or the connection gets closed. Why? B03. Is Domain Name Resolution available with the AS225 software? B04. Can I use NFS to mount a partition on my Amiga from a remote machine? B05. I can't use FTP, rsh or rcp into my Amiga. Why? B06. FTP into my Amiga works, but rsh and rcp into my Amiga don't. B07. I can communicate with machines on my network/floor/building, but I can't communicate with other machines even though they are in my inet:db/hosts file. C. General C01. What terminal emulations are available over ethernet? C02. Can I use multiple protocol stacks on my Amiga at the same time? A list of manufacturers and brief product specifications appear at the end of this list. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A01. What do I need to hook up my Amiga to ethernet? The Commodore A2065 Ethernet Network Interface Adapter, which can be used with software such as Commodore AS225 TCP/IP Networking Software, Syndesis TSSnet DECnet software, and Oxxi Netware. (See specifications at the end of this file.) The A2065 card is a full size Amiga card for the Amiga 2000 and 3000 line of computers. (The original Ameristar ethernet card is functionally equivalent to the A2065 card.) A02. Can I hook up an Amiga 500 or Amiga 1000 to ethernet? The A2065 has reportedly been used successfully with third-party expansion boxes, such as Bodega Bay. A03. Is X Windows available for the Amiga? X11 Release 4 full color for the Amiga is available from GfxBase. Also available are XView, OpenLook, Motif, programmers toolkits, and Berkeley sockets library. X Windows supports Commodore TCP/IP and Syndesis DECnet for ethernet and serial connections, SANA for local. A04. Is DECnet available? TSSnet from Syndesis allows DECnet networking. TSSnet supports X11 from GfxBase, which provides DECWindows support for applications running on a VAX system. TSSnet can communicate over ethernet as well as the Amiga serial port. A05. Is AppleTalk available? There are a few implementations of AppleTalk software and LocalTalk hardware available for the Amiga. DoubleTalk from Progressive Peripherals & Software is an AppleTalk compatible network for the Amiga 500, 2000 and 3000. A06. Is Novel Netware available? A Novel Netware client package is available from Oxxi. A07. Are there any peer-peer network packages for the Amiga? DoubleTalk from Progressive Peripherals provides a full peer to peer file sharing capability. However it only runs on the PP DoubleTalk board which limits its speed to about 1/20 that of ethernet. ALAN-FS is a peer-to-peer network package that allows full transparent file-sharing, device sharing over ethernet. It requires WB2.0 and the Commodore AS225 package. It is available from GfxBase, or Canadian Prototype Replicas, PO Box 8, Ontario, Canada 519-884-4412 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- B01. I can't login to my Amiga over the network. Why? The AS225 software does not support interactive remote logins to the Amiga. It does have servers for rsh (remote shell), rcp (remote copy) and does support remote ftp logins. rsh allows you to execute commands on the Amiga, but does not allow an interactive shell. B02. When I ftp to some hosts, I get part of an introductory message and then either the network hangs up or the connection gets closed. Why? There apparently is a bug in the AS225 software that causes trouble when ftp'ing to a system that has a long login message. You can suppress this login message on some systems by typing a hyphen ('-') as the first character in your password. B03. Is Domain Name Resolution available with the AS225 software? No. You must have an entry in the host table for each machine you wish to reference by name (as opposed to IP address). And no, the gateways file is not currently used. B04. Can I use NFS to mount a partition on my Amiga from a remote machine? No. Currently, the AS225 software only supports NFS as a client. An NFS server is not included. B05. I can't use FTP, rsh or rcp into my Amiga. Why? Make sure that you are running inet:s/start-inet with the servers keyword (ie, "execute inet:s/start-inet servers"). B06. FTP into my Amiga works, but rsh and rcp into my Amiga don't. Make sure that you have an entry in inet:db/passwd for the user who is rshing into the Amiga (you can use the -l option to change the user trying to do the remote access.) Make sure that you have an entry in inet:db/hosts.equiv for the machine being rsh'd from. B07. I can communicate with machines on my network/floor/building, but I can't communicate with other machines even though they are in my inet:db/hosts file. Make sure that you have routes set up to other networks. Many networks have one primary gateway which you should make your default route for reaching all other networks. See the commented-out "route add default" line in inet:s/start-inet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ C01. What terminal emulations are available over ethernet? The AS225 package allows rlogin using the Amiga console (a termcap is supplied) only. A separate rloginVT program is supplied for VT100 emulation. Under X Windows, xterm provides terminal emulation that typically works with all software available on the host. C02. Can I use multiple protocol stacks on my Amiga at the same time? If all desired protocol stacks support the SANA-II standard, several protocols can be run simultaneously on the same A2065 card. No commercially available versions of the network protocol stacks support the SANA-II specification yet. Today you can have multiple hardware interfaces to run different protocols on the same machine simultaneously (i.e. one A2065 used for TCP/IP and one used for Netware). *************************************************************************** Specifications: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- A2065 - Commodore Business Machines Function: Full ANSI 802.3 type Ethernet protocols over either Type A (Thick Ethernet) or Type B (Thin Ethernet/Cheapernet) connections. 32K onboard RAM Buffer provides shared RAM between Am7990 processor and the Amiga. Card Type: Amiga bus (100 pin), Autoconfig Interface Specs: 15 pin female "D" connector for Type A (Thick Ethernet) networking with 100 nodes per segment Female BNC coax connector for Type B (Thin Ethernet/Cheapernet) networking with 30 nodes per segment. Speed: 10Mbps CSMA/CD interface DMA data reading and writing to shared RAM Card Size: Full size Amiga board -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AS225 - Commodore Business Machines Compatibility: NFS - TCP/IP software for the Amiga is compatible with all models of the Amiga. Connection to Internet, DDN and other networks supporting TCP/IP and UDP/IP protocols. Works with the A2065 and Ameristar Ethernet Adapters. Network Functions: rlogin (client only), rloginVT (client only VT100 terminal emulation), rsh (client and server, but no interactive shells), NFS client, telnet (client only), ftp (client and server), finger (client only), ping, arp, netstat, rcp (client and server), route, showmount ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- X11R4 - GfxBase, Inc. Compatibility: AS225(tcp/ip) TSSnet(DECnet) Local(SanaI), all Amigas. WB1.3 and WB2.0 Requires: min 1M ram for server, 7M harddisk, more ram for local clients Graphics: lowres (upto 32 colors), hires (upto 16), super/productivity (upto 4) All resolutions up to 2kx2k. A2024(Hedley) at 1024x800(1024/pal), interlace Includes: pbmplus utilities, X11R5 fonts, xpr for Amiga printers. Input: international keyboard support, 3 button mouse. Other graphics cards: GDA-1 (upto 1024x768 256/16M colors), Ameristar 1600GX (upto 1600x1280 256/16M colors) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DoubleTalk - Progressive Peripherals & Software Compatibility: Amiga 500, 2000 and 3000. Apple File Protocol used in standard AppleTalk networks. Functions: Share files, printers on existing AppleTalk network. For Amiga-only networks, has a high-speed mode (twice AppleTalk speeds) and allows any Amiga to function simultaneously as a file server, printer server or client. Hardware: Network interface card with 512K ROM and phone jack network adapter. Network card provides an additional serial port for the Amiga. Software utilities: Network Manager, AutoLogoff, AutoPublish, password security, NetMail. ***************************************************************************** Manufacturers: Canadian Prototype Replicas, PO Box 8, Ontario, Canada (519) 884-4412 Commodore Business Machines, 1200 Wilson Dr., West Chester, PA 19380 (215) 431-9100, (215) 436-4200 GfxBase, Inc., 1881 Ellwell Dr., Milpitas, CA 95035 (408) 262-1469, (408) 262-8276 (FAX) Oxxi, P.O. Box 90309, Long Beach, CA 90809 (213) 427-1227 Progressive Peripherals & Software, 464 Kalamath Street, Denver, CO 80204 (303) 825-4144, (303) 893-6938 (FAX) Syndesis Corporation, N9353 Benson Road, Brooklyn, WI 53521 (608) 455-1422, (608) 455-1317 (FAX) -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Gerber Grad Student Physics gerber@rigel.astro.uiuc.edu University of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign ------------------------------------------------------------- From cbmvax!bagate!dsinc!cs.widener.edu!eff!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!uunet!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!piccolo.cit.cornell.edu!crux1!mx8 Mon Sep 21 08:04:36 EDT 1992 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site cbmvax.commodore.com Path: cbmvax!bagate!dsinc!cs.widener.edu!eff!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!uunet!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!piccolo.cit.cornell.edu!crux1!mx8 >From: mx8@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Eric Lane Beyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Ethernet for the 500... Message-ID: <mx8.716851129@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> Date: 18 Sep 92 21:18:49 GMT Date-Received: 19 Sep 92 02:03:40 GMT References: <7s$vH+-5p9@atlantis.psu.edu> <1992Sep15.230948.24794@cs.rose-hulman.edu> Sender: news@piccolo.cit.cornell.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cornell Information Technologies Lines: 34 Nntp-Posting-Host: crux1.cit.cornell.edu gunnbr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Brian R Gunn) writes: >In article <7s$vH+-5p9@atlantis.psu.edu> cramer@vivaldi.psu.edu (Michael >R. Cramer) writes: >> >> Does anyone know of Ethernet hardware support for the Amiga 500. Pennn >State >> just made Ethernet hookups available in alot of the dorm rooms, but I >need >> some way to hook my 500 up to it....I know there is a card available for >the >> 2000/3000 but with no expansion slots on the 500 i'm getting worried! >Well, do you have anything in the side port of the 500? I just recently >saw a "single 2000 compatible slot" for the 500, which basically looked >just like a gender changer that fits in the side of the 500 and allows you >to use any 2000 cards. I asked my dealer about plugging in an Ethernet >card (since we're getting net connections in the rooms as well), and he >said that it would work... BI I did this... What you do is plug the A2065 ethernet card and plug it into either a Bodega Bay (which I use) or into a $45 board called Slingshot (from Micro R&D). I've tested both methods, and they both work beautifully with the AS225 internet software from Commodore. Eric Beyer elb1@cornell.edu (don't mail to CRUX1) B B >Brian -- Dale Larson, Software Engineer | Anyone who believes that what I say or do | represents the policies or procedures of | Commodore has more lawyers than they have dlarson@commodore.com | common sense. 
