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- From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
- Subject: Re: DOHC on a V8 possible?
- Message-ID: <johnson.718942985@wrs.com>
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- Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
- References: <773.88.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us>
- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:23:05 GMT
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- dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
-
- >-> What shortcomings are you referring too? I thought the '84 and later
- >-> Vette was supposed to have a great suspension.
-
- > They have rather severe camber change, which causes the tires to rise
- >up on edge, losing grip, and causing instant oversteer. Usually a
- >spinout, even with the 'vette's go-kart steering ratios. So you wind up
- >taking bumpy sections very slowly to keep from losing control.
-
- Certainly not positive camber change.
- In a floating rear axle (solid), when the inside tire is loaded,
- the flex in tire carcass changes the slip angle so that it is increased
- on the outside edge and decreases across the tire as you move inward.
- At the limit, this renders the outside of the tire providing the maximum
- traction available at that point, but the inside of the tire is working
- below its maximum (slip angle). "Push it harder!" you say? Then the
- outside of the tires contact patch exceeds the maximum slip angle and
- suddenly loses traction at that point. The limit of the slip angle is then
- reached at each successive point accross the tire as the lateral G force
- climbs. What this really accomplishes is a "softening of the
- "break-a-way" point. What an I.R.S. type suspension does is try to
- compensate for this imbalanced tire loading (if it's set up correctly to
- do so)....negative camber is fed in with suspension travel to compensate
- for tire flex and keep the contact patch flat on the ground, yielding
- more uniform slip angle across the entire tire.
-
- Now dave, I know you know this. I was just trying to let others know
- exactly what is happening. Now, from what I can gather from your
- comments is that the '86 and later vettes have "too much" negative camber
- fed in ('84 and '85 even worse)? This may be slightly true, but
- the fact remains that the farther you go from an optimum point (of camber)
- in the positive direction, the worse the traction is if you would have
- gone the same amount in the negative direction. (same for tire press.;
- too much is always better than too little), and the fact that a floating
- rear axle never has negative camber (when loaded) constitutes a favor toward
- the vette w/respect to traction. Of course, the perfect amount of
- both tire press. and negative camber is what we all strive for, but
- excuse me while I dream...
-
- DAVE (johnson@wrs.com)
-
- P.S. The added uspring weight doesn't help the floating rear axle when it
- comes to "rough" road either.
-