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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: Did electric/magnetic symmetry "break"?
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- In article <5SEP199219330991@zeus.tamu.edu> dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu (RING, DAVID WAYNE) writes:
- >carlip@landau.ucdavis.edu (Steve Carlip) writes...
- >>The electromagenetic symmetry you are asking about is called duality.
- >>In the absence of charged matter, you can freely rotate the electric and
- >>magnetic fields into each other. Charged sources provide an _explicit_
- >>symmetry-breaking, by uniquely picking out one "direction" to couple
- >>to. This isn't the kind of broken symmetry you're asking about, I
- >>think; for instance, there's no phase transition between a symmetric
- >>and a nonsymmetric ground state.
- >
- >'rotate' and 'direction' suggest a continuous symmetry. But taking the dual
- >is discrete. Is that right?
- >
- >Dave Ring
- >dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu
- >
-
- I just gave a bit of the spiel about duality last time. The
- discrete symmetry
-
- F -> *F
-
- can be embedded in a continuous symmetry group - just the circle
- group, U(1) - as follows:
-
- F -> (cos t)F + (sin t)*F
-
- Here t is any old real number and has nothing to do with time. (The
- problem with talking to physicists is that to them letters all have
- pre-assigned meanings!) In fact this stuff is old hat; it is what
- you're doing when you make up a complex electromagnetic field E + iB
- and then multiply it by a phase exp(it)! (Remember your old electromagnetism
- course?) The reason for dressing it up in fancy new language by using
- the electromagnetic field strength two-form F and the Hodge star
- operator * is just to prove that I'm a mathematician. :-) No, seriously,
- the point is to show that duality symmetry doesn't depend on a choice
- of coordinate system, and in fact works on any curved four-dimensional spacetime.
- I.e., it's not just a hack.
-
- So one can make up a *complex* two-form, let's call it G, by setting
-
- G = F + i*F
-
- so that the vacuum Maxwell's equations just become
-
- dG = 0
-
- and duality symmetry as described above is encoded in the fact that
- this equation is invariant under
-
- G -> exp(it)G.
-
- Now one can imagine introducing charges and currents by setting
-
- dG = *J
-
- where
-
- K = J + iM
-
- Here J is the electic charge/current one-form and M is the magnetic
- charge/current one-form (which seems to be zero in real life). (Note
- that I said d*F = J in a previous post but I meant d*F = *J, up to a
- sign that I am too lazy to remember!)
-
- What Steve was referring to was that the absence of magnetic monopoles
- just amounts to saying that K has no imaginary part. However, due to
- duality symmetry this is sort of a matter of convention: if there were
- no electic monopoles and ONLY magnetic monopoles, the physics would be
- the same. As long as the current K is of the form exp(it)J for some
- real one-form J, we can use duality symmetry to rotate things so that
- K is real! I.e., we rotate the complex plane until a given line through
- the origin gets sent to the real axis.
-
- Duality symmetry can be souped up. The person who has played it most
- definitively seems to be Kostant, who taught a course on Maxwell's
- equations at MIT in which he used his considerable group-theoretic
- prowess to uncover a grand SO(3,3) symmetry lurking around somewhere,
- if I recall correctly. More recently Guillemin and Sternberg wrote a
- fun book that covers some of this stuff, if I recall correctly. I
- forget the title.
-
- By the way, we just had an earthquake here at Riverside, but
- everything's still standing. I am posting from MIT because the
-