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- From: luzeaux@liszt.berkeley.edu (Dominique Luzeaux)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: measures of the `size' of infinite sets
- Message-ID: <1992Sep9.003634.29496@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
- Date: 9 Sep 92 00:36:34 GMT
- References: <1992Sep8.134624.11005@newstand.syr.edu>
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- In article <1992Sep8.134624.11005@newstand.syr.edu>,
- hgraber@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Harry Graber) writes:
- |> have been devised for the size of an infinite set. Some of these measures
- |> give a different result, and agree with our `intuitive' position that
- the set
- |> of multiples of 29 is in some definite sense smaller than the set of numbers
- |> that are not multiples of 29.
-
- Do you want a measure (i.e. positive, completely additive), or a way to agree
- with your intuitive position. In that latter case, density is the answer.
- The set of multiples of 29 will have a density 29 times smaller than the set of
- integers.
- Other ways of separating ``large'' sets from ``small'' sets, when they have the
- same cardinality, can be by their topological properties; that leads for
- instance
- to categorical considerations. In fact measure and category are two of the most
- used manners to see whether a set is small or large. Unfortunately (or
- fortunately) there are sets which are large in one sense and small in an
- other one; although it has been shown that a homeomorphism could be
- built between zero measure sets and first category sets.
-
- Dominique Luzeaux
-