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- From: wskelly@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (William Skelly)
- Subject: Re: Dr. Fabrikant and honesty in science
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- References: <1992Aug28.170505.4700@u.washington.edu> <17lpf7INNchs@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1992Aug28.204404.29264@tc.cornell.edu>
- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:32:52 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug28.204404.29264@tc.cornell.edu> bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
- >In article <17lpf7INNchs@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
- >>In article <1992Aug28.170505.4700@u.washington.edu> jars@milton.u.washington.edu (Juan Rodriguez-Sero) writes:
- >>>I wholly agree with Dov (and, hopefully, many others); people who "don't
- >>>even know about" a paper and "would give blank stares if asked about
- >>>them" are not co-authors. They should be included in the acknowledge-
- >>>ments if at all, but not as co-authors.
- >>
- >>The custom varies from one field to another. It is simplistic to
- >>call one custom "dishonest".
- >
- >Please explain why it is not dishonesty. Saying "it is the custom"
- >only shows that the custom itself is dishonst.
- >
- >>--
- >
-
- Fraid I really really have to agree. It is dishonest. Period.
- Its a lie that has become acceptable in academia. It does
- not further science, just the careers of those with the
- power.
-
- It is time this crap stops. I vote that Journal request
- the authors (all the authors) of every paper submitted to
- also submit a one page outline of their contributions to
- the paper AND ALL the authors sign ALL the outlines!!!
-
- Chris
-