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- From: keller@cse.ucsc.edu (Jeffrey M. Keller)
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Subject: guaranteed posting (was Re: Secure network: what form?)
- Date: 27 Aug 1992 22:50:01 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
- Lines: 44
- Message-ID: <17jm6pINN2li@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
- References: <9208272105.AA12700@news.cis.ohio-state.edu>
- NNTP-Posting-Host: oak.ucsc.edu
- Summary: A more modest approach to secure net-news.
-
- I think demonstrating the delivery of postings is overkill, as well as
- being difficult. Given a moderator for a newsgroup, one could implement
- a simpler scheme as follows:
-
- Let M(n) be the n-th posting to the group
- D(n) be a digest (e.g. by MD5) of M(n)
-
- When the moderator accepts a posting M(n+1), he appends D(n) to it, signs
- the result, and returns a copy to the poster.
-
- The poster is now in a position to prove that he submitted the successor
- to M(n). In addition, any reader who receives M(n+2) without receiving
- M(n+1) will detect the omission. (What he does about this is up to him,
- but at least he knows about the problem.)
-
- If the moderator signs two different postings as successors to M(n), and
- either author gets ahold of a signed copy of the other posting, then he
- is in a position to discredit the moderator. If there is any means (even
- non-deterministic) of making public signed postings (e.g. posting them to
- other newsgroups, uploading them to random BBS's, printing them in the
- Personals columns of newspapers, etc.), then such inconsistencies are
- subject to detection.
-
- Furthermore, if the moderator does fork the newsgroup in such a fashion,
- the appended digests prevent seamless merging of the resulting groups.
-
- It remains the case that the moderator can refuse or alter a submission
- to the group, but this is traditionally one of his prerogatives. (Note
- that having the moderator sign D(n) without seeing M(n) is unnacceptable.)
- If he alters or fails to sign it, the poster will of course know. If he
- signs and suppresses it, he compromises himself as soon as he signs the
- next posting. Of course, he can refuse all postings thereafter, but this
- is again his prerogative.
-
- Finally, a moderator must still be chosen; but now his performance (or,
- rather, his performance modified by the reliability of the newsfeed) can
- be effectively monitored. (If you miss a posting, I guess you query
- archive servers and/or the moderator for it. If they don't reply, I
- guess you start complaining in other newsgroups. If every moderator
- refuses your postings, I guess you get paranoid...)
-
- --
- Jeff Keller <keller@cse.ucsc.edu> CIS Board, UCSC
- "If X is the answer, what was the question?" --David Fuller
-