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- From: curtis@berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
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- Subject: Re: Science vs. story in SF (Was: World Creation)
- Message-ID: <1992Aug29.230329.20188@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
- Date: 29 Aug 92 23:03:29 GMT
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- In article <14712@mindlink.bc.ca> Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
- >I should be posting another "Work in Progress" item (and will, I hope, a little
- >later today, but the discussion on technology & science in SF has provoked me
- >into going into my dreaded Literary Theorist mode...
-
- Oh no! Rope down the cows, Maw, and hide them kids! It's an academic!
-
- >Modern SF is a hybrid of two very old literary forms, one intellectual and the
- >other popular. The "anatomy" or "Menippean satire" is a study of the world as
- >seen in terms of one dominant idea. Its concerns are the follies of
- >scholarship, the ideal society, the moral aspects of language, the importance
- >of documents as objects in themselves. Anatomy is not much concerned with
- >character or plot, so events may move slowly while cardboard characters debate
- >the issues of the tale.
- >
- >The popular genre is the heroic romance, whose plot is usually some kind of
- >perilous quest to achieve a restoration of the obscure hero to his proper
- >place--the throne. Here we have travels, strange beasts, ordeals, sexual
- >threats, and everything else that makes prime time TV so stimulating.
-
- This is, alas, so.
-
- Personally, I have some trouble deciding which of the two forms
- I loathe most. Marooned on a desert island with but one book,
- would I prefer Eddings or Le Guin? Rather throw myself to the
- sharks. There are some fates too awful to contemplate.
-
- Yet I still read SF. For the exceptions; the ones neither
- idea-constipated fish nor gory sweaty fowl. There are a
- few people in the SF biz who don't write anatomies or
- heroic romances, or even (a la Gibson) bastard breeds of
- the two. Lucius Shepard; Geoff Ryman; Richard Grant;
- a few more, not too many.
-
- But enough to convince me that there's no genre of fiction
- which cannot be profitably used in a speculative setting.
-
- c
- "Except poems."
-