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- From: veit@du9ds3.uni-duisburg.de (Holger Veit)
- Subject: Re: Using the Source (Luke :)
- References: <92244.002140AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
- Date: 31 Aug 92 16:37:31 GMT
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- Organization: Uni-Duisburg FB9 Datenverarbeitung
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- In <92244.002140AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET> <AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
-
- >I have a couple of kinda newbie questions about the source distribution of
- >386bsd 0.1, so please bear with me and don't roll your eyes _too_ much :)
- >
- >I can make the binary distribution fly with no problems, but I haven't had
- >too much experience with source distributions of any OS, let alone Unix . .
- >
- >I can get the source distribution unpacked fine (except I got an error along
- >the lines of "can't find script source.install, install failed" or something
-
- forget the message 'cant execute /tmp/install.src01 script' (or similiar),
- its not there. No loss or problems.
-
- >like that) and I carefully read the file /usr/src/ROADMAP but when I try to
- >run config or make all I get is command not found errors. Does this mean
- >that I have to first install the binary distribution? (i.e. the source distrib
- >doesn't come with the executables I need to compile the OS). If I don't need
- >to first install the binary distrib, then what am I doing wrong.
- >(For that matter, where can I get a good discussion of make, other than the
- >man pages, I'm not that much of a tyro :) :)
-
- There are books available (I think from O'Reilly & Assoc.) and a public
- archive from GNU describing GNU make (makedoc-3.59.tar.Z or similiar), but
- this does not help very much with the special version in BSD. But besides
- the special tricks used in this version you can write makefile according to
- this docu.
-
- You didn't install the binaries first? This is interesting. Of course you
- need the bin release. Unfortunately, running some 'config' or 'make all' is
- not the only truth. Installing the dist.fs, rebooting from the HD, copying
- and installing bin01 and rebooting again should be sufficient to have
- a system which allows compiling all the sources (if they are there :-). If the
- above described installation of bin fails due to *any* reason, it is
- recommended to start again. With 80 MB disk you have sufficient space for
- bin01, but there is not very much left for src01.
- The most important thing with the source dist is IMHO the /usr/src/sys.386bsd
- directory where the kernel sources are located. It is nice that these are located
- at the beginning of the archive. If your src install broke but you find
- at least something in a directory /usr/src/lib/*, then sufficiently has
- been loaded to compile a new kernel (which seems to be most important for
- the moment). You can delete everything in /usr/src with the exception of
- /usr/src/sys.386bsd and /usr/src/include (I am not sure with the latter).
- You will need some other sources only if you change something with the
- system libraries (such as crypt.c or kvm.c).
- In contrast to the recommendation in the READMES you need not start over again
- when the source or etc dist fails due to lack of space. You should run
- fsck, however, just for paranoid reasons :-)
-
- >
- >If I need both distributions installed, is there any way I can do it on an
- >80MB hard drive. I tried installing first the binary and rebooting to delete
- >the bin01.* files, then installing the source distribution, but the filesystem
- >got full.
- >
- >In another vein, where should I look for more instructions on how to enable
- >incomming telnet and ftp connections. The boot sequence "sees" my 3c503 and
- >ifconfig makes the thing work (I can ping, ftp, and telnet other hosts) but
- >if I try to ping, ftp or telnet my 386BSD machine from another machine,
- >I get no response.
-
- Currently I have no net with 386bsd, this should answer somebody else :-)
- >
- >Thanks for you help in advance, and thanks to Bill and Lynne and everyone
- >else who made this wonderful OS.
- >
- > -Alec D. Isaacson
- > AI4CPHYW @ miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
- > isaacson @ rogue.acs.muohio.edu (NeXt Mail)
- > Miami University, Oxford, OH
- >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >Only a barbarian would eat chive cream cheese and blackberry jam on the
- >same bagel. -Spenser
-
- Holger
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