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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 26 Aug 92       Volume 10 : Issue 205

Today's Topics:

      [A] Best Big Monitors and I/F Cards
      About changed TeachText and  NeXT WDEF init
      Acme Dot Co. Whereabouts
      Art history graphics on CD-ROM?
      Bad RGB Monitors
      Bridge program (Q)
      Dust cover for Color Pivot/LE (Q)
      Envelope-addressing program w/CanPS bar coding
      finder quits unexpectedly (Q)
      ftp'ing to mac.archive.umich.edu
      Great price on Powerbook 2/20s
      HP ScanJet SCSI interface
      IIsi problems...
      ImageWriter Print Spooling (A)
      Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean?
      Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean? (A)
      Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean? (R)
      mac.archive.umich.edu
      MacProducts USA (R)
      Mac Routers
      Making sound files (Q)
      network wiring
      PB100 AVAILABLE IN NEW ENGLAND
      RAM expansion on the Quadra 950
      Remote Procedure Calls from a Mac
      Report: Soft-PC (Warning)
      Seeking tech info on 68000 family
      Sharing HP Deskwriter/deskjet betw Mac/DOS?
      Speed disk - safe or not?
      Strategic Conquest 3.0
      SuperBoomerang/DA II conflict
      TigerSoftware?
      USD Tutorials

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:00:14 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dwight Early)
Subject: [A] Best Big Monitors and I/F Cards

I want to thank the people, who responded to my request for advice on 21
inch monitors and interface cards to drive them.  They gave me advice based
on their experience and, forunately, the usual Mac periodicals came into my
inbox the next day with reviews on same.  Thanks to Dave Saunders, Bob
Haushalter, Greg ([e-mail]), and the others whose e-mail responses
were trashed by weird electrons while I was on vacation.

Looks like it's a SuperMac 21" SuperMatch Color Display and SuperMac
Spectrum/24 PDQ for my super Mac.  The Thunder/24 I/F card, which several
recommended, was too expensive for my budget.

--Dwight Early

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:22:43 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: About changed TeachText and  NeXT WDEF init

Hi netters,
-TeachText :
Few weeks ago, I had request for help on comp.sys.mac.apps about how to get
Monaco 9 in TeachText. An excellent helper, Frank Probul who is also author
of "MiniSystem-Installer-1.0b1", shows me concise and accurate answers as
follows :
 ---------
Copy TeachText, rename it for the font you want like "TeachText Monaco 9"
Open this TeachText with ResEdit.
Open CODE-Resource 1.

CHANGE FONT:

Search for "0001 A887" at offset $4A88 (or near this address)
  0001: Font ID,
  A887: TextFont Trap ID
change the ID for the font you want: documented in Inside Mac 1, Page 219
   2: NewYork
   3: Geneva
   4: Monaco
 $14: Times
 $15: Helvetica
 $16: Courier

SIZE:

Search for "000C A88A" at offset $4A88 (or near this address)
  000C: size,
  A88A: TextSize Trap ID
change the size, documented in Inside Mac 1, Page 219
  0009:  9-Point
  000A: 10-Point
  000C: 12-Point
  000E: 14-Point
  0012: 18-Point
 ---------
Furthermore, I asked him how to have a 75-column window. Here's the answer
:
"I think the colunm-width is calulated dynamically when opening the window.
If someone wants to patch this, he has to re-write the whole window-opening
and
window-resizing routines, not only changing two bytes."

I put the answers here is to inform to those guys who love Monaco 9 and
often use TeachText as fast Text Editor in Nuntius, and shows my gratitude
to him.

-NeXT WDEF : All of NextWindow fans out there ! If you would like the
NextWindow  back to your screen, grab it which is in ex subdir on Sumex. It
is now system 7 compatible ! It is a great job from Kjell Krona from
Sweden.

       Khanh Kim, Nguyen
       internet : [e-mail]
       cc:mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:29:59 EDT
From: "J. Burke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Acme Dot Co. Whereabouts

Can anyone give me a current address/phone for the Acme Dot Company? Are
they still in business? I found a sampler of their "ShipStack" on a PD
cd-rom collection, and would like to order the product. The address given was
Titusville, FL, but my letter was returned. Thanks.

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Date: 26 Aug 1992 19:26:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David C. Garrett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Art history graphics on CD-ROM?

Hi, all,

My roommate is thinking of buying a Mac (yay :) and a CD-ROM drive.  He wants
to get a CD-ROM library with graphics of the paintings and sculpture from any
and all periods of art history.

Does anyone know of such a collection, or perhaps a likely company to call and
ask about such?

Any recommendations or warnings about which CD-ROM drive to buy?

Should he wait till October (for the unveiling of the new (well, different,
anyway) product line)?

Thanks in advance,
-Dave   [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:37:05 EDT
From: Gene Mayro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bad RGB Monitors

A couple months ago there were some messages posted about defective
Apple 13" RGB monitors. Can anyone direct me to the issue
of Info-Mac where they discuss the problem? Is Apple replacing the
monitors? What is the problem with the monitors in question?

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:28 MET
From: "A.L. SMIT" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bridge program (Q)

Dear netters,
Some while ago it was concluded that there is no good bridge-program
(the card game) for the Macintosch world.
Could anyone tell me if the situation is better now (commercial or PD)?
Thanks,
Bert Smit

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:59:03 PDT
From: [e-mail] ( John Thoo )
Subject: Dust cover for Color Pivot/LE (Q)

Does anyone know where I might buy a dust cover for a Radius
Color Pivot/LE?  (mail-order preferred)

Thanks much for your help.

Cheerio!
--John.
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 0:51:09 PDT
From: Daniel Mailly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Envelope-addressing program w/CanPS bar coding

Hello all,

Does anyone know of a program (shareware or commercial)
for envelope-addressing with canadian postal service
bar coding capabilities?

Please reply to:
[e-mail]

Thank you,

Daniel Mailly

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:03:31 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: finder quits unexpectedly (Q)

Yesterday I had a strange problem with my finder deciding to quit of its own
accord. I created a new folder and then started to type a name and the finder
just quit (then restarted). I then clicked on the name of the folder (at this
stage, still called Untitled Folder) and the finder quit again. I could
duplicate this as many times as I pleased even after deleting the folder and
creating a new one.

The only clue I have to what was going on was the DiskStatus told me I only
had
about 400K of RAM left (although About the Finder said I had 3.5 M, which was
closer to the truth I think). What gives? Has anyone seen this problem
before?
I rebooted and rebuilt the desktop and the problem is gone but I'm curious as
to what has happened.

Paul                                               //// scientia est potentia
Dr G P Savage  ***  Melbourne  ***  Australia  ***  [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 17:23:29 EDT
From: Michael Brzycki from Drexel University
<[e-mail]>
Subject: ftp'ing to mac.archive.umich.edu

>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:28:47 bst
>From: Mark Elliott <[e-mail]>
>Subject: mac.archive.umich.edu (Q)
>
>does anyone know when the mac archive at mac.archive.umich.edu
>will resume normal service ? i can now login again, but my local
>machine tells me that the remote system type is unknown, and
>can't find any files !
>
>thanks
>.
>Mark Elliott


     My experience recently with mac.archive.umich.edu is that I always get
an error message or no files listed when trying to use the 'dir' (and 'list'
on vm-cms) command. It works fine if use a plain 'ls' command to list just the
names in the directory. I find 'dir' much more useful than 'ls' so I hope they
can fix it before too long. Other than this, I have had no problems
with the site and have recently gotton some files from there.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:13:08 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Great price on Powerbook 2/20s

Creative Computers in Lawndale, California [phone] has enough Powerbook
2/20's to stack from floor to ceiling priced at $749.

/Eric

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: HP ScanJet SCSI interface

I have a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet Plus scanner, which I love. However, it
requires a parallel-to-SCSI interface box which is now fizzling out. The
trade-in replacement cost (from Hewlett-Packard) is $230. Nearly everybody
I've talked to who has had an HP ScanJet with the external interface has
said this is a regularly-occuring problem, which is somewhat like buying a
car and having to replace the transmission every couple of years or so.
  Hewlett-Packard claims that this is not the case and that the interface
in fact has a low failure rate. I have heard otherwise from several scanjet
owners. If you have had this problem, please e-mail me. If enough people
complain at the same time, perhaps HP'll come up with at least a more
reasonable replacement policy and we won't have to shell out a few hundred
dollars every few years just to keep a scanner running.

    Thanks in advance-
    Ian Blackburn
    University of Tennessee, Knoxville
    [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:37:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kevin R. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIsi problems...

Aside from the well-discussed sound problem, does anyone else have a problem
with their power light cutting off?  The solution for this (for me) also
solves the sound problem.  A semi-firm whack to the right side of the machine
fixes it in no time.

Upon investigating, it SEEMS that the pressure of the monitor on the power
supply inside the mac (back right) pushes the logic board and cuts the
contact of the speaker/power light circuit.  If I figgle with the power
supply, the light comes and goes.

Does anyone have a real solution for this one?

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:54:23 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: ImageWriter Print Spooling (A)

In 10-204, Francis J. Van Wetering asks:

>Once again, an impassioned plea for assistance / direction / information.
>Does ANYONE know of a spooling program for a local, NON-Appletalk Imagewriter
>that works under System 7?  Commercial software is FINE!  I just desperately
>need to spool jobs so that I can have my Mac back!

Get SuperLaserSpool from Fifth Generation Software. (It's carried by all
the major mail order suppliers of Mac software, such as MacWarehouse or
MacConnection.) It works fine with a non-Appletalk Imagewriter under System
7.
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:00:30 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Geoff Bronner)
Subject: Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean?

In digest <[e-mail]> Stan Kerr writes:

>I'm upgrading memory on my IIcx and now need to know if all sorts of
things
>are 32-bit clean.  Superpaint 3.0 died with a bus error when I ran it in
>32-bit mode, so I presume it's not clean. Does anyone have the official
word
>on that, and whether (and how) I can upgrade to a clean version?

Well. I'm running SP 3.0 on a Quadra with 32-bit ON and the cache enabled
and no random crashes.

I think you may have another conflict of some sort.

(I used to run it on an SE/30 with MODE32 and 32-bit ON also.)

-Geoff

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:54:46 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean? (A)

In 10-204, Stan Kerr says;

>I'm upgrading memory on my IIcx and now need to know if all sorts of things
>are 32-bit clean.  Superpaint 3.0 died with a bus error when I ran it in
>32-bit mode, so I presume it's not clean. Does anyone have the official word
>on that, and whether (and how) I can upgrade to a clean version?

Superpaint 3.0 is supposed to be 32-bit clean. But it needs a lot of memory
when working with  documents. Boost its memory to 3000 or higher and see if
the error message goes away.
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:09:06 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Michael A. McGuire)
Subject: Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean? (R)

>I'm upgrading memory on my IIcx and now need to know if all sorts of things
>are 32-bit clean.  Superpaint 3.0 died with a bus error when I ran it in
>32-bit mode, so I presume it's not clean. Does anyone have the official word
>on that, and whether (and how) I can upgrade to a clean version?
> ---------
>Stan Kerr    Computing and Communications Services Office
>U of Illinois/Urbana      [e-mail]   [phone]

I run SuperPaint 3.0 in 32-bit on a 20MB IIfx under 7.0.1 with no trouble.
Check your inits and extensions.

Michael McGuire, [e-mail] :-)

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 8:51:49 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <[e-mail]>
Subject: mac.archive.umich.edu

Mark Elliott <[e-mail]> writes:
>does anyone know when the mac archive at mac.archive.umich.edu
>will resume normal service ? i can now login again, but my local
>machine tells me that the remote system type is unknown, and
>can't find any files !

What's been done (so far) is to redirect the DNS pointers to alias
mac.archive.umich.edu to shavenyak.css.itd.umich.edu.

shavenyak has a few problems, primary to your application is the lack
of an ls -l or dir command. Use ls to look for/at files, and you
should be ok.

        tom coradeschi    <+>    [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:04:08 +0200
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacProducts USA (R)

Jeff,
If you're confident that the items you'd order from MacProducts do NEVER
require repair or technical advice (and if the price is right) - why not.
But don't expect them to give any after-sales support.
I bought a modem from them when I was in Boston back in 1990. It works
fine, but the software version was not bug-free. It took me over 2 years
to finally get a new version (of QuickLink II Fax software), but only
after I contacted one of Smith Micro's key employees via email and
complained publicly about MacProducts and Smith Micro in the digest.

Christian F. Buser              [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 7:08:26 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Juan A. Pons)
Subject: Mac Routers


 Hello!

 I have a few questions about mac routers. I am wondering what ever happened
 to
 the update to the Apple Internet Router? I had heard that Apple was working
 on an update (3.0?) but I have not seen a release of the product yet!

 I was also wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with Liason?
 I am looking  to set up a mac IIx as a multi port router. Install a few E-Net
 cards and maybe one of those multi serial port cards and set up a router
 that can handle at least 2 E-Net zones and 3 or 4 local talk Zones? Has
 anyone out there done this? If so what software have you used?

 Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 Thanks

 Juan

 P.S. Please respond to me directly if possible.


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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 10:10:20 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Wong)
Subject: Making sound files (Q)

Howdy,
I am in the process of making a Cheers file but am using the program
Wavicle.  I was wondering if there was a better program then this.
I don't care if it is freeware or shareware, but I don't want a store
bought, unless it is really good and rather inexpensive.  But if anyone
can help I would really appreciate it.
   Thanks,
     Jeff

[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:53:46 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: network wiring

Hi all!

I'm putting an addition on my house and, therefore, have an opportunity to
install some wiring with an eye on the future.  I can easily envision a few
Macs (or whatever replaces them) scattered about, with a printer, a modem
or two, perhaps a file server, all living in the basement or some other
central location.  These things all need to talk to each other.  So, here's
the question:  What single wiring scheme is most likely to support both
current communications and coming technology?  Plain old 4-pair telco, run
as a passive star to each room will manage LocalTalk, telephone, and even
10BaseT Ethernet.  Any other ideas?

Paul Baim

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:26:39 EDT
From: Jon Butler <[e-mail]>
Subject: PB100 AVAILABLE IN NEW ENGLAND

Readers of this list interested in purchasing a PB100 with 4mb RAM (not 2)
might contact Computers Etc. Superstore, 216 Newbury Street, Peabody MA  (508)
535-5252.  This store sells the machine for $899, includes Stuffit SpaceSaver
w
ith it, and charged me $10 for shipping (it arrived in one day).  In short,
the
y will ship, where Price Club won't.  Presumably, the store will ship most
anyw
here.  Whatever, anyone who accepts the PB100 for what it is, an acceptable
beg
inning computer and a great bargain for a second, portable model, might find
th
is better than driving around to Price Clubs. (And no, I don't own stock in
Com
puters Etc., etc.)

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:30:01 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Hades)
Subject: RAM expansion on the Quadra 950

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>My lab is considering purchasing a Quadra 950.  I read that it has 12
>memory expansion slots.  When adding RAM, do I have to fill all 12 slots
>at once?  What is the most RAM that I can add?  Is there a system limit
>beyond which all the remaining RAM could only be used as a RAM disk?  We
>are interested in having around 40 megs of physical RAM in our system.

    Well, I happen to own a 950 (although I am currently experiencing a
few problems with it, but I was installing memory into it today and I
can assure you that there are 4 banks (of 4) of SIMMs. It comes with 8M
installed and leaves 2 banks open. If you fill those remaining 2 banks
with 4M SIMMs then you will have 40M. If you fill all banks with 16M
SIMMs you will have 256M which is the physical limit of RAM you can put
into the 950.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:21:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Remote Procedure Calls from a Mac

Has anyone every done Remote Procedure Calls (RPC's) from a Macintosh to some
other operating system or does anyone have any information on how it might
be done?  Any information on RPC's and the Mac would be helpful.

Please send replies to [e-mail] unless you feel others
might be interested.  If there is any interest I will summarize the replies.

TIA,

Lisa Besko
Michigan State University
Cyclotron Lab

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:35:37 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Report: Soft-PC (Warning)

Hi to all of MAC Netlandia...

Here is a WARNING for anyone who is considering getting Soft-pc for their Mac
(this borders on Mac blasphemy doesnt it...?)

Functionally SoftPC works as advertised with no crashes or hitches found to
date.
(I am doing simple C++ compiles using a command line version of Turbo-c++ Ver
1.0)

But... If you bug the 'zoom' box the screen expands to full screen mode & you
lose the last two lines of the DOS prompt off the bottom of the screen.! The
product still works; you just cant read the last two lines of the screen
(difficult to see what youre typing on a MsDos command line thats off the
screen... I am using soft pc Ver 2.5 on my PBK-100).
I would prefer to use the full-screen mode as the program is noticeably faster
(no clipping required within the mac window...)

Even worse, when I phoned to ask about a fix to this problem; the folks at
Insignia Solutions were quite terse; saying just don't run it in a large
window
(I didnt need to phone them to figure that out...) with no outlook for a fix
or
patch to cure the problem.

Come ON; (being a software developer by trade) I know for a fact that software
is hard to develop, but gimme a break; I can't believe that they never hit the
zoom box in the window during testing.... They are selling products that they
know are buggy. (I think this problem only manifests itself the PBKs; because
of their screen dimensions)

My take is they are a small company with too few resources to ix the
problem...
but geeez, I cant believe that they have never tried this on a PBK; hell,
there
ads show their software running on a PBK  (in a small window of course).

Please take heed when dealing with this firm as they are unscrupulous &
unprincipled...

Perhaps by publicizing this bug; they will correct it in a future version.

Comments &/or fixes: Email me at [e-mail]:com

I will be happy to summarise and redistribute any/all comments/fixes to the
net.

Regards...

//Greg Huddleston

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:58:22 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Seeking tech info on 68000 family

EtherFolk:
Anybody have information on the 68000 processor family, or leads to it?
Maybe someone can refer me to an internet accessible site that has technical
information.  Preferably, I'd like to ftp info from Motorola, MacWorld, Byte,
MacUser, or others.  Are there anonymous ftp sites for this?  If all else
fails, con you recommend a book?
Thanks for your help,
Glenn Fink
(Pls respond to me directly.  If I get replies that are of general interest,
I will summarize to the net. -- Thanks)
[e-mail]

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Date: 26 Aug 1992 12:49:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Dorn Peterson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sharing HP Deskwriter/deskjet betw Mac/DOS?

Is it possible to use one printer, either an HP deskwriter or deskjet, with
both a mac and a msdos machine that are sitting next to each other?  I'd
be interested in hearing about solutions that either do or don't involve a
network.

Dorn Peterson
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:47:11 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Speed disk - safe or not?

In a recent info-mac digest, Mel Martinez writes the following regarding
Speed Disk:

> ...since it could read a file's various fragments into memory, delete them
> (freeing up more disk space) and then writing the unfragmented version to
> disk.  This is very risky since if anything interrupts SpeedDisk such as a
> powerfailure, then the file will be damaged or, more probably, totally
> lost...

Mel, I think you've got speed disk confused with something else.  I have
put speed disk through many a torture test, including pulling the plug in
the middle of an optimization SEVERAL times.  If memory serves me, a
simplified version of speed disk's algorithm is:

    1. Read the file from the disk.
    2. Write the file to another portion of the disk.
    3. Write the directory entry for it's new position.
    4. Delete the directory entry for it's old position.

Because the old directory entry isn't deleted until a new one is entered,
you cannot lose a file to a power failure or other such nuisances.  Even if
the plug is pulled during step 3, the directory entry for the old position
still exists, and so, therefore, does the file, since it is never actually
"erased" from the disk.

I am not trying to say that there is _NO_ way to lose data with speed disk,
only that it is not likely to happen due to a power outage.  And as I said
before, I have put speed disk through MANY such torture tests - and never
once lost a single file.

Just a happy speed disk user,
Russ Arcuri

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:32 EDT
From: AL BEST <[e-mail]>
Subject: Strategic Conquest 3.0

I have Strategic Conquest 2.055 and have enjoyed the game
tremendously.  I've seen ads for version 3.0.  I'd like to
hear from those who have upgraded.
 1) What is different between v2 and v3 (besides version 7
    support)?
 2) Does the program still "cheat"? - that is, it does not
    build pieces in the same number of days that you do
    (in version 2 anyway).
 3) Is version 3 more challenging?

Thanks
Al Best

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 01:07:08 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: SuperBoomerang/DA II conflict

While it may be true that running SuperBoomerang and DA II
at the sme time may cause the same error to occur, it is
not the cause on my machine.  This is simply because I am
not running DA II.  After originally posting this problem,
i have received numerous messages saying that it may be a
conflict between SuperBoomerang and any application that
has a "new folder" button in the save dialog.  I have not
tried using DeltaGraph Pro without SuperBoomerang off.  We
shall see!  :-)

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
[e-mail]

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Date: WED, 26 AUG 92 10:32 CDT
From: Joel Cunningham <[e-mail]>
Subject: TigerSoftware?

Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with TigerSoftware?
They have two "new" products listed that might be fun. One is a CD-Rom
game called "Beyond The Wall Of Stars", the other is a game called
"Capitalist Pig" (love the title). Any info on these would be
appreciated. (It's my birthday, time to buy some toys!)

                  thanks!
                  Joel Cunningham

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:54 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: USD Tutorials

I am seeking copies of the USD Chem tutorials (I think there are currently 13
available.  If anyone can tell me how to get copies, I would much appreciate
it. Thanks.

DTHURLOW@clarku

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