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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 27 Aug 92       Volume 10 : Issue 206

Today's Topics:

      [*] AppleWorks to MS Works Translator
      [*] Cipher 1.0
      [*] Fetch Help 2.1b4 Text File
      [*] HOtP FAQ/Tips (TEXT)
      [*] MW_Dinner_GIF.sea.hqx
      [*] Nuntius V1.1.1d9 Text File
      [*] PICMeUp - Updated
      [*] Submission of: macstardate-10.sit.hqx
      [*] util/jchar-13.hqx
      [*] util/jcode-16.hqx
      [*] util/jconv-23.hqx
      [*] Warlords updater hqx
      [*] waynes-world-grp2.hqx
      [*] What happened to TIGER?
      (Q) 1024x768 board for use with Sony CPD-1304S?
      16" monitor and IIci
      About NextWindow info : correction
      AppleLink/Internet Mail
      Banner Program (Q)
      Bridge for the Mac (A)
      COBOL for the Mac?
      Controling resourses over Appletalk
      Diagnostic software
      Dispatcher Review...
      Handheld scanners (S)
      IIsi sound problem strikes again
      Imagewriter Print Spooling (A)
      Info-Mac CD-ROM response
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #205
      Little Noise on My Powerbook? (Q)
      LPR, LPQ UNIX functions for the Mac (Q)
      mac.archive's broken "dir" command to soon be fixed...
      Model Neuron replacement (Q)
      network wiring (A)
      New color Mac Classic?
      Pathworks
      Photoshop: in & out
      Powerbook 145 & Color Monitors (Q)
      Report: Soft-PC (Un-Warning)
      screensaver challenge
      Sharing HP Deskwriter/deskjet betw Mac/DOS?
      Soft-PC (Warning)
      softFPU
      Spooling Salvation!
      Superboomerang goes boom
      TCP-IP, ARA P, & Shiva Netmodems
      Technical Support Nrewsgroup...
      TI MicroLaser Turbo Good?
      UU-Cat 1.0
      VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (R)

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:14:51 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] AppleWorks to MS Works Translator

Someone asked me to upload the free translator for AFE that
Microsoft produced.  This translator will supposedly convert
AppleWorks documents to MS Works docs.  I don't know if it
will handle the databse or spreadsheet portions or not.  I
have been informed that this particular translator will only
handle documents of up to 20k in size (I have not verified
that myself).  It would have been posted sooner, but I had
to check with Microsoft to make sure it was OK to post it.
They said enjoy!

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/afe-appleworks-msworks.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 11:53:32 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Cipher 1.0

Cipher is a Hypercard stack that will encode and decode secret messages
using simple substitution or Vigenere crytosystems.  It uses English
language statistics to assist in cracking messages when the key or alphabet
used to encode it is unknown.  Examples are provided and a explanatory help
file is included in the stack.  Cipher is handy for people who want to
exchange secret messages or for people who want to learn more about
cryptosystems.

J. Clarke Stevens
Georgia Tech Research Institute
[phone]
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/card/cipher-10.hqx; 29K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 08:34:32 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Fetch Help 2.1b4 Text File

The great communication program Fetch located in the archives at Sumex in
the communication folder has interactive help.  I, as well as some of my
colleagues, prefer to read this offline in printed form.  I copied this
help using Resedit from the program itself and take no credit for it but
wish to only distribute it so other users may benefit from this.  Dartmouth
and those that worked on this project deserve all the credit for this
wonderful application.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/fetch-206-docs.txt; 56K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:24:34 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] HOtP FAQ/Tips (TEXT)

    Here is the new and completed Hellcats Over the Pacific FAQ/Tips.
It is in raw text format.  A Microsoft Word formated document will be
completed within two weeks.
    Please post this to Sumex-Aim in the appropriate directory for
maximum access to HOtP game players.

Thanks.

Ted Wagner

[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/game/hellcats-over-pacific-tips.txt; 42K]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:48:00 -0600
From: Keith Bourgoin <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] MW_Dinner_GIF.sea.hqx

This is a GIF file (256 colours) showing the gang that showed up at the
InterNet dinner during MacWorld Boston 92. The dinner was called appropriately
enough [e-mail]. Hope you enjoy and may you be
in the picture next year.

Keith Bourgoin ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/art/mug/mw-net-diners.hqx; 168K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 08:42:40 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Nuntius V1.1.1d9 Text File

This is the help for Nuntius v1.1.1, a wonderful communication program and
news reader.  This help file was taken from the balloon help provided in
the program itself.  I, as well as some of my colleagues, prefer to read
this offline in printed form.  I take no credit for it.  I did add a short
glossary of terms to explain the differences in terminology not discussed
in the help files.  That is the only thing I take credit for.  I hope this
helps people like it has helped us.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/nuntius-111-docs.txt; 6K]

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 17:59 PDT
From: Samuel Herschbein <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] PICMeUp - Updated

    This version of PICMeUp fixes a couple of very minor bugs
and adds the capability of dismounting the file's volume.  It
won't be a "best-seller", but has found use in some student
labs around the world.

    PICMeUp is a small utility that reads its STR resources for
the pathname of a file, gets a PICT and snd from the file, and
displays the PICT and plays the sound.  It can also dismount the
volume containing the file.
    PICMeUp is used in our student lab.  Each time a student
boots a floppy or hard disk Mac, they get a screenful of message.
Graphics, text, and sound are used because they just don't read
the signs on the door...

    Included is a Word document for setting it up.  If you can't
read it, send me e-mail and request another format.

    PICMeUp is ChocolateWare:  If you like it, send me some
bittersweet or semi-sweet chocolate.
    Source code available on request.

    Samuel Herschbein
    [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/e/backmod/ar/util/pic-me-up.hqx; 59K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:59:33 -0400
From: Jacob Ben-david Zimmerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Submission of: macstardate-10.sit.hqx

This is a small app I wrote which puts up the current stardate in a window.
It's freeware, and probably fits best under the misc directory. It is version
1.0.
Thanks!   -JBZimmerman! ([e-mail])

p.s. the description is included below.
----
This file contains macstardate.sit.hqx, a binhexed Stuffit 1.5.1 archive
which contains MacStardate and its Readme file.  MacStardate is a simple
app that puts up a window in which it displays the current stardate, as
calculated by Jay Windley's stardate.c.  It is Sys7 friendly, and as far
as I know runs on Color and noncolor machines. I have done limited
testing due to limited machine access; any bug reports welcome at
[e-mail].  Enjoy!

-JBZimmerman!

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/mac-stardate-10.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:21:37 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Ken Lunde)
Subject: [*] util/jchar-13.hqx

util/jchar-13.hqx

    This program, JCHAR, is a Macintosh post of a UNIX tool I wrote. I
used the ccommand() function of THINK C to display a Macintosh command-line
interface. One uses the command-line to specify arguments to the program,
and there are also radio buttons for specifying stdin and stdout.
    Note that this tool is designed for those who are interested in
or need tools that perform Japanese text processing.
    Here is the help page that is displayed when the "-h" option is
specified on the command-line:

** jchar v1.3 (August 12, 1992) **

Written by Ken R. Lunde, Adobe Systems Incorporated
[e-mail]

Usage: jchar [-options] [outfile]

Tool description: This tool is a utility for generating various Japanese
character sets in any code. This includes all the characters specified in
JIS X 0208-1990, half-width katakana (EUC and Shift-JIS output only), the
94 printable ASCII characters, the 1945 Joyo Kanji, and the 284 Jinmei-yo
Kanji.

    Source code is included (in case users wish to compile the tool for
use on UNIX or on whatever platform they choose -- it is portable)

Ken R. Lunde
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/jchar-13.hqx; 59K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:25:18 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Ken Lunde)
Subject: [*] util/jcode-16.hqx

util/jcode-16.hqx

    This program, JCODE, is a Macintosh post of a UNIX tool I wrote. I
used the ccommand() function of THINK C to display a Macintosh command-line
interface. One uses the command-line to specify arguments to the program,
and there are also radio buttons for specifying stdin and stdout.
    Note that this tool is designed for those who are interested in
or need tools that perform Japanese text processing.
    Here is the help page that is displayed when the "-h" option is
specified on the command-line:

** jcode v1.6 (August 12, 1992) **

Written by Ken R. Lunde, Adobe Systems Incorporated
[e-mail]

Usage: jcode [-options] [infile] [outfile]

Tool description: This tool is a utility for displaying the electronic values
of Japanese characters within textfiles, and supports Shift-JIS, EUC, New-JIS,
Old-JIS, and NEC-JIS for both input and output.

Options include:

  -c[DATA]      Reads codes, one per line, rather than characters as input --
        if DATA is specified, only that code is treated, then exits
        (KUTEN codes must be prefixed with "k," and EUC codes with
        "x" -- EUC, JIS, and Shift-JIS codes must be hexadecimal)
  -h            Displays this help page, then exits
  -iCODE        Forces input code to be recognized as CODE
  -n[NOTATION]  Output notation set to NOTATION (default is hexadecimal if
  this
        option is not specified, if NOTATION is not specified, or if
        the specified NOTATION is invalid)
  -o[CODE]      Output code set to CODE (default is Shift-JIS if this option
        is not specified, if CODE is not specified, or if the
        specified CODE is invalid)
  -p[CHOICE]    Pads the columns with CHOICE whereby CHOICE can be either "t"
        for tabs or "s" for spaces (default is spaces if this option
        is not specified, if CHOICE is not specified, or if the
        specified CHOICE is invalid)
  -s            Shows control characters (except escape sequences)
  -v            Verbose mode -- displays information such as automatically
        generated file names, detected input code, etc.

NOTE: CODE has five possible values:
      "e" = EUC; "s" = Shift-JIS; "j" = New-JIS; "o" = Old-JIS;
      and "n" = NEC-JIS

NOTE: NOTATION has three possible values:
      "o" = octal; "d" = decimal; and "h" = hexadecimal


    Source code is included (in case users wish to compile the tool for
use on UNIX or on whatever platform they choose -- it is portable)

Ken R. Lunde
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/jcode-16.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:25:59 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Ken Lunde)
Subject: [*] util/jconv-23.hqx

util/jconv-23.hqx

    This program, JCONV, is a Macintosh post of a UNIX tool I wrote. I
used the ccommand() function of THINK C to display a Macintosh command-line
interface. One uses the command-line to specify arguments to the program,
and there are also radio buttons for specifying stdin and stdout.
    Note that this tool is designed for those who are interested in
or need tools that perform Japanese text processing.
    Here is the help page that is displayed when the "-h" option is
specified on the command-line:

** jconv v2.3 (August 12, 1992) **

Written by Ken R. Lunde, Adobe Systems Incorporated
[e-mail]

Usage: jconv [-options] [infile] [outfile]

Tool description: This tool is a utility for converting the Japanese code of
textfiles, and supports Shift-JIS, EUC, New-JIS, Old-JIS, and NEC-JIS for
both input and output. It can also display a file's input code, repair
damaged Old- or New-JIS files, and display the specifications for any of the
handled codes.

    Source code is included (in case users wish to compile the tool for
use on UNIX or on whatever platform they choose -- it is portable)

Ken R. Lunde
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/jconv-23.hqx; 43K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:07:39 -0700
From: Maurice Sharp <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Warlords updater hqx

Hiya,

Here is an updater for the game Warlords by SSG. The updater takes the
game to 1.1.3 from 1.* or 1.1.*. It fixes several bugs that can cause
crashes.

I am posting this for SSG and am not affiliated with them in any way except
as a happy customer.

maurice

[Archived as /info-mac/game/warlords-113-updater; 111k]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 09:23:59 -0400
From: jason r mihalick <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] waynes-world-grp2.hqx

Dear Moderators,

    Here is the second of four archives containing
sounds from the Movie "Wayne's World".

    This archive contains sounds recorded in a 3:1
compression ratio using Sample Editor.  The sounds were recorded
using the built in sound input on a Mac IIsi, and I think that
you'll find that they are of good quality (for using the built
in mic).
    The sounds in this archive are as follows:

        Fine Then Go...
        Garth's Plan
        Girl Hurl
        Pardon Me ... Grey Poupon
        I Just Hope You Didn't Think It Sucked
        I Smell Bacon...
        I'm Getting Tired of Holding This...
        I Was Not Aware of That

    The sounds are free, so I hope you all enjoy them as much as
I have.

                    -Jason R. Mihalick
                    [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/waynes-world-grp2.hqx; 669K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 00:24:08 -0700
From: Robert Lenoil <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] What happened to TIGER?

Someone sent me mail recently looking for my ShareWare program TIGER, which
used to be in the info-mac archives. Was its removal deliberate? If it was
accidental, then here is a resubmittal of the program.

-Robert Lenoil

This file contains a binhexed stuffit archive of TIGER, version 1.1. Version
1.1 fixes a bug in processing multiple uuencoded files per source file.  It
also now handles the files created by the CC:Mail and Microsoft Mail gateways
(the program was originally tested with AppleLink only). TIGER is Shareware.

TIGER can decode uuencoded files (a popular file encoding technique for UNIX
systems). It also can decode AppleSingle files (a format for storing Macintosh
files on other computer systems). To use TIGER, simply choose Extract from the
File menu and select a file to extract enclosures from. Any enclosed files
will
be extracted and put in the same folder as the original file. The original
file
is not modified.

Uuencoded files should have file type TEXT and AppleSingle files should have
file type BINA (binary). If extracting from a uuencoded file produces an
AppleSingle file, the AppleSingle file is automatically decoded to produce the
final Macintosh file. This feature makes TIGER ideal for retrieving files from
Internet mail messages created by the Internet gateways for CC:Mail, Microsoft
Mail, AppleLink, and possibly QuickMail (I haven't tested QuickMail).

Note: Most enclosures on AppleLink are compressed package files, which require
the AppleLink software in order to be expanded. A future version of TIGER
might
do this automatically -- registered TIGER users that have paid the $5
shareware
fee will receive substantial discounts on any future commerical version.

Robert Lenoil
Independent Consultant
[e-mail]
March 3, 1992

[Archived as /info-mac/util/tiger-11.hqx; 32K]

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:38:49 -0400
From: Andy Malis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (Q) 1024x768 board for use with Sony CPD-1304S?

I'm using a Sony CPD-1304S 14" monitor with the built-in video on
a Mac IIci.  I would like to be able to use the full 1024x768
resolution that the monitor supports.  Can anyone recommend an
8-bit video board that does the trick?  Please mail replies.

Thanks much for any help.

Andy Malis, [e-mail] or harvard!bbn!malis

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Date: 27 Aug 92 12:19:00 EST
From: "Troen, Bruce" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 16" monitor and IIci

Will the on board video of the IIci drive the Apple 16" monitor?

I know that it would not be able to provide 256 colors, but will it give 16?

Or is it just plain impossible to connect the 16" monitor to the ci?

I just put in an order for the 16" monitor and I'm wondering how soon I'll be
forced to purchase a video card.

Any suggestions re video cards?  Should I stick with the Apple 8*24 - I can
get
an educational discount price of $459.  Will my screen refresh be noticeably
slower than on a 13" monitor?  Are there any accelerated cards that would
drive
the 16" monitor and still cost less than $500.

Any help would be appreciated.


Bruce Troen
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11:57:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: About NextWindow info : correction

Hi,
In info-204, I gave the wrong whereabouts of Next window style. The right
ftp site is as follows :
mac.archive.umich.edu or
shavenyak.css.itd.umich.edu/mac/extensions/init/wdefii 1.2
Sorry about that.
       Khanh Kim, Nguyen
       internet : [e-mail]
       cc:mail: [e-mail]

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Date: 27 Aug 92 18:10:03 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dipesh Navsaria)
Subject: AppleLink/Internet Mail

   I saw this in the Oct 1992 MacWorld:

    Hey, privacy fans, here's a good one.  Question: When are blind
carbon copies of your E-mail delivered not-blind?  Answer: When you send them
>From AppleLink to the Internet or from the Internet to AppleLink.


   This was in the "Turkey Shoot" Column...

                        Dipesh

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:46:01 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Francis J. Van Wetering)
Subject: Banner Program (Q)

I was asked recently, "Can you make a banner on your computer for welcoming
Betty back?"  I had to answer no, since I have never had to do anything
like that before.

Anybody know of a shareware product that produces banners on the Imagewriter,
and that works under 7.0?  I realize that the Imagewriter and system 7 are,
at times, contradictory terms... but this list is amazing so I am optimistic
about an answer.

| Francis J  Van Wetering, Ph.D. INTERNET:    [e-mail]    |
| Management Information Systems BITNET: fjvanwet%cwis.unomaha.edu@UNLVAX1 |

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:46:48 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Prof. L.G. Leduc)
Subject: Bridge for the Mac (A)

In reply to a recent question about bridge for the Mac, I know of Bridge 6.0
made by Artworx Software. It seems to be fairly good although not elaborate
enough for the "connaisseur".

Hope this helps.


Leo G. Leduc
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11:01:50 cdt
From: David Bourne <[e-mail]>
Subject: COBOL for the Mac?

Hello

I've had a enquiry regarding the availability of a COBOL compiler for the
Mac. I seem to remember mention of one not too long ago. I'd appreciate any
information, publishers, cost, recommendations. Thanks.

David Bourne, OU HSC College of Pharmacy
1110 N. Stonewall Ave, Oklahoma City, OK, 73117-1223
[phone], [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11:30:42 GMT
From: Andre Carvalho <[e-mail]>
Subject: Controling resourses over Appletalk

Dear MacNetters:

Can anyone tell me if there is software to control, for instance, the number
of
pages that are print in a laser IIg from each mac in the network?
Well, I guess the problem has came up to many people before. I simply want to
kn

ow how many pages each Macintosh station is responsable for printing, so that
th

e network manager can charge each person the paper spent  :-) !!
I work with both a Localtalk and a Ethertalk.

Any answer would be most appreciated

Thanx


Andre Carvalho
[e-mail]   (BITNET)
Technical University of Lisbon
PORTUGAL

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Date: 27 Aug 1992 11:42:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Crone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Diagnostic software

    I saw in the recent MacWarehouse catalog a diagnostic package called
Snooper.  Has anyone used this?  Does anyone know of any better systems?
    We have about 15 Macs (mostly original Mac IIs and SE30s) that we are
trying to maintain inhouse.

Tom Crone       Bitnet: CRONE@CUA   Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:28:12 +0000
From: Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dispatcher Review...

Well, lo and behold, we finally got our QuickMail server entered in our
company's data bank.  I am now officially reachable at
[e-mail].
de thanks to Dispatcher (from Intercon) which acts an SMTP mail router for
QuickMail.  I think the words 'exstatic', 'overjoyed', and 'awestruck' would
be understatements!  This has GOT to the greatest thing since sliced bread (
and in Germany most bread isn't sliced, so you can see how really advanced
this is!).

I guess what I really like is it's user-friendliness: people can send me mail
using a user name of 'elliot', 'bennett', 'elliot.bennett', or
'elliot_bennett'
- Dispatcher doesn't care (so long, that is, as 'elliot' and/or
'bennett' are unique to the QuickMail server- which, as I'm not German, it is
:
-).

I also REALLY like being able to get info-mac delivered directly to my mac
instead of having to log on to a Vax in Darmstadt!  This was a TRUE pleasure (
despite the fact that the last few lines were missing in the body of the text
but the entire Info-Mac was intact in the enclosed file- I think this is a
QuickMail and/or LISTSERV problem- but I really don't care since it makes my
info-mac reading so much more enjoyable!).

On the minus side is the fact that the accompanying manual is definitely
lacking.  For a $1200 product I expect more than a thin, cheaply produced and
bound manual that's poorly organized.  I had problems installing the software
only because the order of the steps I needed to take were not clearly
deliniated.  A slight reorganization would have made things MUCH easier.
Fortunately, I had access to a couple of TCP gurus who helped me through the
rough parts.  Once it was up and running I was home-free...

So, on the whole, I can STRONGLY recommend this product (especially if you're
half-way compitent with TCP/IP [which I wasn't]).  Should you have any more
questions, you know where to find me!

-Elliot
       [e-mail]

Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with

Intercon
950 Herndon Parkway
Herndon, VA 22070     [phone] (fax: -9896) or [e-mail]

- I'm just a pretty satisfied customer...

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:42:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Handheld scanners (S)

I received four replies to my inquiry about the Typist by Caere and other
hand-held scanners.  All of the replies were very informative.  The opinions
among those who own hand-held scanners are fairly consistent, along the
following lines:

1) They're OK for occasional scanning of graphics.  It's important to keep
   the page very flat, and to be very careful to scan in a straight line.
   (In other words, it's tedious and time-consuming).

2) The OCR capability is not really that useful.  Even when it works (e.g.
   with relatively large-size fonts), there are typically at least 5% of the
   characters that it can't read; they end up as NULLs that you have to edit
   by hand afterwards.  The whole process ends up taking more time than it
   would take an average touch-typist to type it by hand (40 wpm or less on
   an SE/30 by one estimate).  To do any really useful OCR, you need a
   flatbed scanner.

3) The OCR process is painfully slow even on a fairly fast Mac.  You wouldn't
   want to do it often on a low-end Mac.

All four respondents had bought a hand scanner but say they wouldn't if
they were making the choice today; they recommended a flatbed scanner
instead.

Many thanks to:
  John Livesey <[e-mail]>
  Felix <[e-mail]>
  Julie Burke <[e-mail]>
  Paul M. Sheldon <[e-mail]>
Any gaffes you may detect in the summary are my fault, not theirs :-)

If you have a different opinion on this topic, I'd still be interested in
hearing from you.  Also, if anyone wants the full comments, email me.
Also, the September MacUser has a review of hand-held scanners; too bad
I've lost my copy already :-)

    Brett Holt  **  [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IIsi sound problem strikes again

Dear fellow IIsi users,

Yes it has struck again, and I need help.
Over the past several weeks the sound has been slowly disappearing.
First the modem sounds(e.g., when an error occurs or it connects to the \
universites mainframe, both resullt in one or more system beeps)
Today  I installed Macintalk, to be used with Kenex (a peripheral for
adaptive computing) and now none of my sound resources come through
the external speaker in the mac, however they do come throught
the sound output port which is connected to my stereo.  I reinstalled
my system and removed macintalk and now the problem is fluctuating
(O yeah I am using system 7.01 tune-up) I am considering
cleaning the contacts as suggested previously
but I am not too keen on that. Well I hope this doesn't add too
much to the confusion already about the IIsi sound problem.
any suggestions will be appreciated.

By the way -- My typing and grammar are always this bad on the
vax-- :)   Thanks in advance [e-mail]
                Chip Clarke

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Imagewriter Print Spooling (A)

There is SuperLaserSpool (by Fifth Generation Systems) that is system 7
compatible and does work with an Imagewriter II (although I tested it
only with system 6.0.5; the advertising says it's system 7 compatible).

Personally I use an older version (SuperSpool, no laser) that I bought
when the manufacturer was known a SuperMac Software. I don't know if
that thing exists in a version that will run under system 7. I like
Superspool; I also remember hearing that SuperLaserSpool can be very
slow. Perhaps other netters can give better detail.

You can buy SuperLaserSpool from any mail order supplier for about $100.

(usual disclaimer: I have no relationship with the manufacturer...)

hope this helps:           Stefano Migliuolo, MIT

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:50:38 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Cliff Miller)
Subject: Info-Mac CD-ROM response

Dear Info-Mac Enthusiasts,

We have received an overwhelmingly positive response to our proposal
to produce a CD-ROM of the Info-Mac archive, and we would like to
thank everyone who sent in suggestions and comments.  There are a few
things that people suggested we mention to the group, so here goes.

A number of people expressed concern that we look carefully through
the files for copy/distribution restrictions before putting them onto
a CD-ROM.  We are actually going through each file (the abstract and
the application) to check for any such restriction.  We are then
trying to contact individual authors of such restricted programs to
get their permission.  If we receive a "NO" or no response at all, we
will leave the program off the CD.  (Our general posting to Info-Mac a
few days ago made it appear that we were going to put everything on
the CD unless we heard from the author saying not to.  This is not the
case -- the general message was more of a "double check".  Sorry for
not making that clear the first time.)

On the CD we will put a file listing all of the files that are
included on the CD and all of the files that were left off.  (So far,
it looks like only a small percentage of the files will be left off.)
We will include all of the digests as well.

A few people were wondering if this CD was to be a one-time shot or an
ongoing thing.  As many pointed out, the Info-Mac archive is changing
constantly, and it probably makes sense to produce disks periodically.
If things go well, it would be nice to come out with quarterly disks.

The plan is to have the first CD-ROM out around the end of September.
For those interested, we'll post more on how to get one as the time
approaches.

Thanks for all the support!

Cliff

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:36:38 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Bill Moynihan)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #205

In article <[e-mail]> you write:
>
>Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:37:05 EDT
>From: Gene Mayro <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Bad RGB Monitors
>
>A couple months ago there were some messages posted about defective
>Apple 13" RGB monitors. Can anyone direct me to the issue
>of Info-Mac where they discuss the problem? Is Apple replacing the
>monitors? What is the problem with the monitors in question?
>
Gene,

The monitors in question exhibit a symptom of a black screen and
the power indicator on. The problem appears to be in a defective
batch of HV capacitors. Send me your monitors serial number and
I can tell you if it is suspect.

Bill Moynihan ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:57:18 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Little Noise on My Powerbook? (Q)

OK, OK, I give up!  I've been trying to figure this one out without asking,
but have to break down and see if I'm going crazy...

Three times in the last couple of weeks, my powerbook 170 has made a funny
little noise reminicent of something from a pinball or video game.  The
sound is like one that might accompany something "filling up."  The sound
is accompanied by a small icon in the menubar and to the right of the
currently active application's icon (you know, the little multifinder-like
rendering up there that tells you what you're running).  This icon looks
like a little "u" with tiny ledges sticking out from the top and there is a
little animation of an arrow pointing down into the top of this "cup" as it
fills and empties with black pixels (geez, this is hard to describe).  You
can't select the icon and get a menu or anything, nor does it seem to be an
alert for any application I have open.  I had the impression that it
related to times when I had paused in my tying with some key-combination
down, but can't recreate it.  I then thought that it indicated some change
of state in battery charging, but even with volts installed, I haven't
detected a pattern.  Heck, it happens so infrequently that I don't have
much to deduce a pattern on.  I also have my sound volume set quite low and
have been working in a very noisy environment, so I may not notice it all
the times it happens.

If someone can't help me I'm going to have to go get my copy of ResEdit and
dig around looking for the little menu icon and at least see if it a system
resource or associated with some program.

For the record, my inits are simple (SAM anti virus, Adobe Type Manager,
Microsoft Mail, and the Regulator).

Risking being told I should have looked at a  manual-

David Elbert
Department of Geology
Middlebury College
Middlebury, VT 05753
[e-mail]

..."I ain't no Eugene Maleska!"...

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:03:06 EST
From: williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: LPR, LPQ UNIX functions for the Mac (Q)

Does anyone know if there is an equivalent of these UNIX functions for the
Mac.
I have found out that they are included in a PC package called CU TCP
distributed by Clarkson University so there is a chance that they exist for
the
Mac.

John Williams (INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, C.R.Tours, Nouzilly,
France)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:31:04 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: mac.archive's broken "dir" command to soon be fixed...


Mark Elliott <[e-mail]> writes:
>does anyone know when the mac archive at mac.archive.umich.edu
>will resume normal service ? i can now login again, but my local
>machine tells me that the remote system type is unknown, and
>can't find any files !

We're aware of the problems with the broken "dir" and "ls -l" commands
on "yak.css.itd.umich.edu", which is the current machine handling
ftp for mac.archive.

The guys who are "root" on that machine (I have absolutely no access to
Yak other than anonymous ftp, just like everyone else) are quite busy
doing work that they're paid to take care of.  They haven't been able to
find the answer to the problem in their spare time.  If anyone that
reads the Info-Mac digest has experience with IBM RS6000's and anonymous
ftp, please drop me a line at "[e-mail]" and maybe we
can get your experience/expertese to help us out here.

We finally got the bill from Digital for our regular ftp machine.  Now
all I'm waiting for, is for somebody to drop the machine back off here
where I work.  Once that happens, "dir" and "ls -l" will magically start
to work again.  I'd say probably another week or so....  You'll have
to be patient with us.

thanks....

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:50:57 -2300
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Model Neuron replacement (Q)

One of our Biology profs was using an application called Model Neuron which
is in the Intellemation catalog.  It is basically a nerve-system simulator
which allows manipulation of parameters and can graph output as
"oscilloscope traces".  It is a fine app.  Problem is we switched our
student labs over to Classic II's (yeah!) - which necessarily run system 7
- and Model Neuron does not do system 7.  Any suggestions for a possible
replacement for Model Neuron?  Thanks!

Colin Lamb - MacMeister 8-)>  -  Drake University  -  Des Moines

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:01:54 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: network wiring (A)

>I'm putting an addition on my house and, therefore, have an
>opportunity to install some wiring with an eye on the future.
> ... What single wiring scheme is most likely to support both
>current communications and coming technology?

Install two 4 pair 24 gauge unshielded twisted pair cables in a star
configuration to one central spot. This is not expensive and you can run
LocalTalk to FDDI over this. Make sure you don't run these wires laying
parallel right next to your power lines.

You might want to install a two space electrical box where each wire
emerges in case you want to put in several jacks. You put in two cables in
case you want to run more than one thing to a location.

Kee
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:27:49 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Randy Jones)
Subject: New color Mac Classic?

The 08.24.92 issue of MACWEEK stated that a new 16MHz, 030 based Classic
with a 9-inch color screen and a PDS slot is expected in early 93. Would
you know if this machine will have a full 32-bit data bus (SE30 replacement?)
or continue with the 16-bit data bus?

I don't know if you are the correct people to ask; if not could you
please direct me to the correct people?

Randy Jones - Austin, Tx

Send email to ([e-mail]) and let me know.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:57:19 -0400
From: "Arel Y. Weisberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pathworks

To all the Pathworks (VAX-Mac software) users out there:
Are any of you configured so that the VAX uses the Apple laserwriter as
its system printer?  If so, is there any addtional software that is
needed? And, how is the entire arrangement networked?

Many thanks for your help,

Arel Weisberg
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 27 Aug 92 20:57:44 GMT
From: island!grenada.ign.island.com![e-mail] (Malcolm Blanchard)
Subject: Photoshop: in & out

[e-mail] writes:

>output.  (On screen it looks great.)  Will those 100 dpi be sufficient
>resolution when printed out?

In general, one should scan images at twice the resolution of the line
screen one is going to use for printing.  If you scan at less than that
resolution, the pixels will be visible in the printed image as little
square tiles.  This is true for line screens up to about 200 lpi; at
higher resolutions you can get away with something closer to 1-to-1.  I
would assume that you will be using something close to a 150 line screen,
which means that you should be scanning at 300 dpi.  Of course, this
ratio is pixels per inch in the printed image, which may be a different
size than your original.

-Malcolm Blanchard
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:22 EST
From: PC Coordinator <[e-mail]>
Subject: Powerbook 145 & Color Monitors (Q)

My roommate just bought a Powerbook 145 and we are wondering about hooking it
up to a color monitor.

Does anyone know of any good, but fairly inexpensice 8bit cards?
(Or does it already have one that I don't know about?)

Thanks.

            Loren Finkelstein
            [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 13:46:44 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Report: Soft-PC (Un-Warning)

On Wed, 26 Aug, Greg Huddleston wrote a "warning" about SoftPC:

>If you bug the 'zoom' box, the screen expands to full screen mode & you
>lose the last two lines of the DOS prompt off the bottom of the screen.

That does happen on the new odd-size screens, Gregg. White Knight is the
same way, expecting either a 9-inch or a 13-inch screen. Both it and
SoftPC lose screen on the Apple 12" Color monitor and on those PB types
that aren't 480x640 pixels. As the folk from Insignia suggested, it is
like the old "Doctor, it hurts when I do this" bit. Don't *do* that.

I embarrassed myself on that exact point some months ago, forgetting the
Apple 12" color monitor had about the same number of pixels as a 9" mono.
I did not, however, swear at any software publishers because they didn't
account for every odd screen size Apple came up with. I was the one who
should have known better. And anyone who's read an Outbound ad should
know that an advantage of that compatible is a standard 640x480 display.
The forthcoming crop of PowerBooks will have standard displays, too. I'd
swear at Apple if I were you.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:35:08 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: screensaver challenge

Here in the southern hemisphere we are in the midst of winter. I was talking
with some fellow mac users the other day and we came up with a great idea for
a screensaver (After Dark module, Darkside fader, whatever). Watching an open
fire slowly burn down, crackling embers, glowing coals, the odd spark, is very
relaxing. Wouldn't that make a terrific screen saver? Any takers?

Paul                                               //// scientia est potentia
Dr G P Savage  ***  Melbourne  ***  Australia  ***  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:29:11 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sharing HP Deskwriter/deskjet betw Mac/DOS?

On 26 Aug 1992 12:49:27 -0500 (EST) you said:
>Is it possible to use one printer, either an HP deskwriter or deskjet, with
>both a mac and a msdos machine that are sitting next to each other?  I'd
>be interested in hearing about solutions that either do or don't involve a
>network.

Orange Micro's Grappler IIsp (Mac serial to IBMish parallel) with
software should make it possible for you to attach both machines to one
of those $90 or so automatic electronic printer sharing switch boxes.
The usual mail order suspects sell the Grappler and most computer supply
stores have the electronic printer sharing gadgets (you may also need a
Centronix to 25-pin adapter--we did when we used one of those parallel
to telephone wire printer "transmitters" to connect our department
head's PeeCee to the department office so he could share the LaserJet
with his administrative assistant).

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:06:26 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Soft-PC (Warning)

[e-mail] writes:

>Functionally SoftPC works as advertised with no crashes or hitches found to
>date.
>(I am doing simple C++ compiles using a command line version of Turbo-c++ Ver
>1.0)
>
>But... If you bug the 'zoom' box the screen expands to full screen mode & you
>lose the last two lines of the DOS prompt off the bottom of the screen.! The
>product still works; you just cant read the last two lines of the screen
>(difficult to see what youre typing on a MsDos command line thats off the
>screen... I am using soft pc Ver 2.5 on my PBK-100).

> ... <flames> ...

>Come ON; (being a software developer by trade) I know for a fact that
software
>is hard to develop, but gimme a break; I can't believe that they never hit
the
>zoom box in the window during testing.... They are selling products that they
>know are buggy. (I think this problem only manifests itself the PBKs; because
>of their screen dimensions)


I use SoftPC on my SE/30 and it has the same behavior.  Greg's tirade,
however, is completely out of line.  The zoombox behavior is intentional,
documented, and IMO perfectly reasonable.  The two window sizes are fixed
by Insignia's commendable desire to allow running SoftPC on Macs with
compact screens.  The reduced size screen is achieved by a proportional
reduction of the screen image which can do funky things to some displays
due to aliasing (i.e., jaggies) but generally looks fine.  The larger
display size is pixel-for-pixel, and looks terrific, but won't fit on a
compact screen.  The window can't be randomly resized since supporting
something so unPC would be a complete nightmare and incompatible with
almost any PC software anyway.  Insignia could easily have saved themselves
much trouble by requiring a large screen Mac and said to h--l with everyone
else!  They didn't.

Summary: It's not a bug, it's (really) a feature.  The behavior of the
zoombox is straight out of the Human Interface Guidlines: toggles between
small and large screen.  If you mouse it by accident, clicking again
restores the small screen.  No sweat.

I'm not associated with Insignia except as a customer.  My regard for their
product, however, is immense.  The challenge must have been unbelievable:
producing a package with the complete emmulation they provide for virtually
every quirky nuance of the PC, and having it come out as close to
bulletproof as any software I've ever seen.  Plus, it runs reasonably
quickly :-)

So, Greg, your "bug" is just a demand that Insignia let you place 10 pounds
of (pick your substance) in a 5 pound sack.

Paul Baim

BTW: If Microsoft made software this well-crafted, maybe it would be worth
buying...Just a thought ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:17 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: softFPU

There is a softFPU at mac.archive.umich.edu, which emulates the FPU and allows
   the machine without FPU to run programs required FPU, such as PB145.
archive: /mac/system.extensions/cdev/softwarefpu2.2.sit.hqx

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:38:31 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Francis J. Van Wetering)
Subject: Spooling Salvation!

A number of folks answered my plea for a spooler for the Imagewriter.  The
answer is SuperLaserSpool from Fifth Generation Systems, Inc. in Boca Raton,
LA.  Their computers are down due to Andrew, but their 24hr. tech/sales
phone lines are up and running!  For all those persons who
have a copy of SuperSpool 5.0 (the Imagewriter product), Fifth Generation
offers an upgrade for the reasonable price of $30 to SLS v.3 !  I have ordered
mine, and will have it by Tuesday of next week.  Thanks again, all you
info-mac'ers, for guiding me down the path to salvation!

| F.  J.  Van Wetering, Ph.D.    INTERNET:    [e-mail]    |
| Management Information Systems BITNET: fjvanwet%cwis.unomaha.edu@UNLVAX1 |

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:13:43 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Superboomerang goes boom

I finally got around to testing the theory that many
fellow netters responded with to my original question
about a possible bug with DeltaGraph PRo.  I tried turning
of SuperBoomerang and then used DG Pro.  And no more
problems.  So it does look like that it is a bug with
SuperBoomerang.  May just have to fire up the ol' flamethrower
and send a letter to Now Software.  I am sure they would
just love to hear from me after all the friendly responses
about Now Util v4.0 ;-).  Good ol' Now Software ain't doin'
so hot this month, eh?

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:31:22 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TCP-IP, ARA P, & Shiva Netmodems

i am having trouble using AppleTalk Remote Access and MAC TCP.
my mac in the office is on ethernet 7 i am able to telnet/ftp
anywhere. however, when i dial in to it using ARA from my home
machine, i am unable to get a telnet session even to my local
UNIX host.

i am using unique IP addresses in both my office mac and my mac at home.
i am able to do any macintosh network function from home (attach to
servers, print to office printers, & use office 3270 gateways) as if
i were sitting at my desk (just slower).

i use Intercon TCP/Connect II for my telnet sessions. when i try
and establish a telnet session to  my local host, TCP/Connect takes
a long time (several minutes) to inform me that my host is not reachable.

for the shiva netmodem---i have one setup on a localtalk zone in my office.
when i dial in from home, every Macintosh related network activity
is working fine (attach, print, & 3270 gateway). however, TCP/Connect
cannot successfully launch. i get an error message that says i have a IP numb
number conflict. this may not be true. this error message seems
more universal than specific.

any clues would be most appreciated........

steve hom [phone] ....if you are so inclined.......

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:14:17 EST
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Linder)
Subject: Technical Support Nrewsgroup...

Recently, someone (adam?) asked about starting a discussion group/newsgroup
for technical type support people.  The question was raised regarding using a
LISTSERV as opposed to usenet, and various points thereto..

My two cents:

There have been some similar lists on LISTSERVs that have attempted sort of
like what you have in mind, though they werent limited to Techies (ADVISE-L
and
one I can't remember come to mind) - these never really did all that well..

Also, since the majority of corporate tech support (apple, microsoft, et. al.)
is on the internet, we'd probably be able to get a wider population to join.
I hesitate against using a LISTSERV, because as a former list-owner, I know
just how much LISTSERV and some gateways LOVE internet addressing...

Therefore, I'd have to recommend using a Usenet group, although this has a few
negatives of its own.  1> You need to go through whatever process there is in
order to establish a new group (isn't there some kind of voting thing?), and
2> you have to worry about who would be posting.  Based on that, I'd like to
offer the following as a proposal, and if there is enough interest, someone
can start the appropriate ball rolling...

Proposal for the establishment of newsgroup Comp.Misc.Tech-Support

Synopsis:  CMT is expected to provide a forum wherein technical support
representatives for various firms will have an outlet to discuss (among other
topics) compatibility issues, new system environments, and customer service.

In addition, the forum would provide for the quick wide spread release of
various bug fixes and product technical updates.

Specifics: This would be a moderated list, to avoid excessive posting of
irrelevant topics.  Topics allowed would include: the above mentioned, in
addition to bug reports on various products.  (Yes, I would volunteer to
moderate.)


There's my 2 cents...  Comments?

Jeff

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:13:31 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Stephen C. Gilardi)
Subject: TI MicroLaser Turbo Good?

I'm considering buying a TI MicroLaser Turbo printer.  I've read the
September 1992 MacUser Lab's report.

My criteria:

Very fast
Company not likely to go out of business soon
Good price

Prices seem to be in the $1900-$2000 range.  I've seen the 1 Meg
upgrade for about $59.

I'd like to hear any comments anyone has about this printer, printers
>From TI, why I'm making a big mistake, etc.

Thanks,

--Steve
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:58:21 CDT
From: Joel E Callan <[e-mail]>
Subject: UU-Cat 1.0

Hello netlanders,

  I've been trying to use UU-Cat 1.0 to concatonate multiple part uu-encoded
files (on a ci/7.0.1-tuned/32 bit addressing on/many extensions), it worked
twice (after many tries) but I cannot get it to work consistently.

  I also use UU-Lite to uu-decode the multipart files once I get them
concatonated (it doesn't work by draging multiple files onto the UU-Lite
icon).

  Can anyone suggest a better method of concatonating files? Currently I use
MacSink to do the usual cut and paste (manually strip the unnecessary stuff
>From the files), but that can be somewhat tedious on multipart files.

  BTW, I connect to a Unix based system, and I know that I can concatonate
files on the Unix, but it doesn't strip the non-uu-encoded junk from the
files, so that either must be done by opening each part with an editor on
unix, or using some unix program to do this for me (I am not aware of any
unix program which will strip the non-uu-encoded junk from files and then
concatonate).

  Suggestions and comments appreciated.
  Joel E Callan  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:58:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Michael A. McGuire)
Subject: VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (R)

>>Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:27 CST
>>From: "Robert E. Front" <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (Q)
>>
>>VersaTerm-Pro's edit utility is printing in Monaco 12 point
>>which seems to be too large as lines are being truncated.
>>How can I change the default font to  CourierTT or Monaco TT
>>and adjust the font size?


>You can't change the font; however, you can set reduce or enlarge to 90% and
it
>should print correctly.  Alternately, setting the "larger print area option
in
>Page Setup, might correct the problem as well.
>
>Barbara Maxwell for technical support
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:21:48 -0500
From: Jim McKay <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: jjmckay
From: [e-mail] (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Report: Soft-PC (Warning)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:21:44 GMT
Lines: 20

It sounds lie a bug indeed and the person who answerred should have given a
more polite and caring answer.  Insignia should be more careful, to say the
least, in who they hire.  I symapathize with your situation having
had similar experience with other companies and respect the high standard of
support it sounds like you give your users.

At the same time, I don't agree with your
out and out condemnation of an entire company based on one interaction.
Nor do I think your views of the firm can be supported based on this
one experience.  I've gotten better service from other vendors than
>From Insiginia  (I give them a 4 out of 5)  but overall I think
their product is rather remarkable, despite the Zoom bug.  (I use SoftAT,
Access PC and SoftNode, as well as the old version of Soft PC.)  I think
it's wrong to discourage people from using it just because of this
one bug and interaction.

At the moment I do not have a solution for the bug, but I will post
any solutions I come up with.  Thank you for bringing it to the rest of our
attention.  Good luck.

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