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- Info-Mac Digest Tue, 25 Aug 92 Volume 10 : Issue 204
-
- Today's Topics:
-
- [*] cindy.clock.v1.3.sit.hqx
- [*] TidBITS#139/24-Aug-92
- [*] Zfinch 1.3
- Accelerating an SE
- Alternate Universe Navigator
- Apple IIe and Mac (S)ummary
- At Ease Prices (Q)
- ATR disabling tip (A)
- Balloon Help & ResEdit (Q)
- Changing pixel depth (A)
- CTB for HyperCard
- Disk Protection Software
- Downloading Not the Waltons? (A)
- Downloading Not the Waltons? (C)
- Errors (C)
- F-line Instruction Crashes
- Faxmodems
- GIFs of Pro Football teams (Q)
- IIsi Sound Problem (R)
- ImageWriter Print Spooling
- Info-Mac Digest V10 #203
- Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean?
- LaserWriter IIg zones...
- mac.archive.umich.edu (Q)
- MacTools 2.0 Backup
- ModVoicer comments...
- norton/mactools (R)
- PB100 & Price Club (C)
- persian writing
- Photoshop: in & out
- Printing Text From HyperCard (Q)
- Problems downloading Not the Waltons, and related issues
- Quadra Crashes Continued
- Radius PIVOT and MacDraw Pro and Kermit .99
- RAM expansion on the Quadra 950
- SBFix Part II
- Suspected DeltaGraph Pro Bug
- Tech support mailing list
- TIFF<->RIFF without ColorStudio: How?
- Time Stamp Versions Symantec/Norton) (C)
- usefulness of math coprocessor?
- Uses for Labels
- VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (Q)
- Were can I find RevRdist?
- Why is a 105Mb not a 105 Mb? (A)
- WinWord -> MacWord -> PageMaker Bug
- Zoom V.32bis ARA script
-
- The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa.
-
- The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous,
- any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu
- [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help.
-
- Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
- Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:49:49 EDT
- From: J Eric Bush <jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Subject: [*] cindy.clock.v1.3.sit.hqx
-
- This is a little desktop clock that displays pictures of super
- models and the current date and time. The pictures are mostly
- faces. This is a system 7 program. Cindy Crawford, Paulina,
- Kathy Ireland, Rachel Hunter and more are included.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/util/cindy-clock-13.hqx; 692K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 22:28:53 PDT
- From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
- Subject: [*] TidBITS#139/24-Aug-92
-
- TidBITS#139/24-Aug-92
-
- A varied catch this issue, starting with quick notes about Morph,
- Excel 4.0, and European Macintosh distribution, and continuing
- with an interesting article on gray market mail order vendors.
- We have a few more notes from Macworld about neat new products
- from Voyager and new items from Casady & Greene, and an article
- on how IBM may be close on the heels of QuickTime. Finally, the
- VRAM conundrum!
-
- Topics:
- MailBITS/24-Aug-92
- Mail Order Macs
- Watch Out, QuickTime
- VRAM Problems
- More Macworld
- Reviews/24-Aug-92
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-139.etx; 27K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 20:30:23 -0400
- From: Andrew.S.Wright@williams.edu
- Subject: [*] Zfinch 1.3
-
- This is a stuffed and binhexed HyperCard stack originally designed to keep
- detailed records of several hundred birds used in biological research,
- their surgical histories and even multiple recordings of each bird's songs,
- with sonograms (FFTs pasted from SoundEdit tm). The stack and the scripts
- therein may be easily converted to other purposes.
-
- There are several good scripts that may be of interest to other
- scriptwriters, namely customized searches of multiple stacks with multiple
- search criteria, automatic updating of information present of several
- different cards, and some decent sound cut and paste management.
-
- This is shareware/mailware. Individual users please send me a postcard or
- e-mail telling me what use you made of the stack. Coporate or University
- labs should contact me for a (cheap) site liscense. Copyright 1992 by
- Andrew Wright,
- XCMDs copywright 1988 by Farralon.
-
- Andrew Wright
- 93asw@williams.edu
-
- --------------cut here--------------
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/card/zfinch.hqx; 58K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:57 EST
- From: Carlo Fusco <G1400023@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA>
- Subject: Accelerating an SE
-
- Hello,
-
- A few digests ago I inquired about accelerating an old SE. The replys have
- been good. I have given up on my first choice, the Railgun, due to the
- numberous warnings against it. I am now just about ready to order the
- Newlife accelerator. However, I have a few more questions about it.
-
- 1) In MacWorld July 1991 there is an artical about upgrading old macs.
- That artical states: "The Newlife 25 and 33 can't be installed on older SE's
- because the extra video connector on these accelerators doesn't fit into the
- SE's case." I phoned Newlife and they told me that the video card is extra.
- I don't want the video card, therefore, will the accelerator fit in my
- pre-FDHD SE? (BTW, the Newlife 25 was highly recomended.)
- 2) I have been told that this accelerator will distort the sound output of
- SE. Is this true and is a software solution available?
-
- I am in the process of compiling the responses to my first queary and will
- send them to the info-mac shortly. If anyone has anymore comments about
- accelerators for the SE, please send them to me.
-
- Thanks
- Carlo Fusco
- g1400023@nickel.laurentian.ca
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:15:42 CDT
- From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <LZCB%UTDALLAS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Alternate Universe Navigator
-
- Recently, through what I imagine private communication of a preprint, I was
- led to understand something most surprising about space warps ala star trek.
- In correct Physics parlance, rather than science fiction, they are called
- spacelike wormholes, because gravity always warps space, but these are
- special.
- The paper illustrates infinite forces preventing the mouths of a wormhole
- >From going from being spacelike separated to timelike separated.
- It is hard to make timelike wormholes from spacelike ones.
- These spacelike wormholes, one sort of which my simulation studied, are thus
- evidently not equivalent to time machines. That is what I learned from the
- preprint. The author of that preprint has my full support in his astonishing
- conclusion---renewed energy should be spent on studying the edges of Physics
- involved in building space wormhole throats.
- A Historical Note:
- Since 1987, when Kip Thorne and his consortium stated that it would be easy
- to build a timelike wormhole from a spacelike one (ie. build a time machine),
- I have studied time assymetry to attempt to grasp fine features of the alleged
- impossibility of the space wormhole. An enormous amount of the efforts of the
- consortium has been to examine what can be salvaged of sensibility in a uni-
- verse with time wormholes. You had to be willing to defend the logic of a time
- machine to discuss space wormholes.
- Now, due to my illumination by this preprint, I find that the possibility
- of the existance of time and space wormholes are distinct issues.
- I had promised the archives to develope a time machine simulation and
- got stuck in how to formulate the mathematics. I have some improved clarity on
- what "toy model" to simulate now. I may join Object Oriented Pascal with
- my Modula II utilities that I have already made through my experiment with
- linking different languages. My plan is to simulate a time machine that
- doesn't
- "have to be made", a time wormhole inflated from vacuum fluctuations. From
- the preprint's toy model,it seems that wormhole mouths,once timelike
- separated,
- should want to collapse toward each other. Will my toy model simulation have
- inflation beat that tendency or will they get thrown into the space time
- blur at the Planck scale (where they won't count classically and sort of hide
- themselves under the uncertainty principle, I believe)?
- That's the plan with the toy model. Like all "homework", I probably will
- find something else surprising.
- I am sorry that my time machine simulation this summer for you all.
- I didn't have a clear notion, at the time, what the "geometrodynamic" point
- traced by the curves in time would be, when there was no one time, you see!
- When you have instantaneous hyperspace jumps back in time, whose time do
- you use? Special relativity already introduced us to the relativity of
- simultaneity, but this was even tougher nut to crack.
- Now, I conjecture that the one time is a branch cut of time and know what
- that "point" would be.
- Stay tuned to infomac to see whether a hacker can handle hyperspace in the
- continuing adventures of hyperspace hacker.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 09:49:01 EDT
- From: Doug Larrick (HLO2-3/N2; DTN 225-6017) 25-Aug-1992 0948
- <larrick@cadsys.enet.dec.com>
- Subject: Apple IIe and Mac (S)ummary
-
- Thanks to all who responded to my question about migrating from an
- Apple IIe to a Mac. The general consensus was that my dad should
- get an LC II with the Apple IIe card, but for a variety of reasons
- (not a powerful enough Mac; he already has an Apple IIe, why does
- he want another), that's not practical. So I'm going to advise
- him to use a serial cable to transfer files (cheapest solution),
- and later buy a 3.5" disk drive if the serial transfer gets too
- cumbersome.
-
- I'm also going to advise him to get ClarisWorks to work with his
- AppleWorks files. He understands he'll have to do a little re-work,
- especially to the speadsheet files. Microsoft Works would also read
- the AppleWorks files, but according to the responses I got,
- ClarisWorks is a better package.
-
- Three BASICs were mentioned: Microsoft QuickBASIC is the old standby,
- but I have some concerns with future support. True BASIC is a modern
- language with BASIC as its roots, much like what my dad currently uses
- on the Apple (Micol BASIC). ZBasic was mentioned, but only in name.
- My dad's first assignment will be to research this subject more closely,
- although I would lean toward True BASIC for him. I will also give him
- my old (3.0?) version of Think Pascal (which I abandoned when I learned
- C) to upgrade or use as he sees fit.
-
- Thanks again for the responses. Wish me luck explaining Apple current
- (and near-future) Mac lineup to my dad!
-
- -Doug Larrick
- Disclaimer: I speak not for DEC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:03:12 +0100
- From: Andrea Sella <ucca245@ucl.ac.uk>
- Subject: At Ease Prices (Q)
-
- The local Mac "dealership" don't seem to know anything about AtEase.
- Can anyone tell me how much it is in pounds?
-
- Come to think about it, how about dollars. Even academics can become
- dab hands at arbitrage!
-
- Andrea Sella
- UCL Chemistry
- aka ucca245@ucl.ac.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 10:53 N
- From: BOONE%RECHT.RUG.AC.BE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
- Subject: ATR disabling tip (A)
-
- The tip about ATR can be found in MacUser May 1992 on page 236:
- ATR checks a program's resource fork to see if it has an ATR resource
- with ID -1 containing a single zero byte (00).
- If it finds such a resource, it disables itself for that program.
- Use ResEdit to install such a resource in an application.
- You can find an ATR resource in Adobe Illustrator, you can copy it
- >From there and paste it into your applications of DA's.
-
- Dimitri Boone
- boone@recht.rug.ac.be
- Belgium / Europe
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue,25 Aug 92 13:00:59 BST
- From: D.Edmonson@vme.glasgow.ac.uk
- Subject: Balloon Help & ResEdit (Q)
-
- Does anyone know of any templates that can be used with ResEdit for
- adding Balloon help to menus (hmnu) and dialogs (hdlg) of an application?
-
- Thanks
- Vic Moss (Institute of Physiology, University of Glasgow) V.A.Moss@gla.ac.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:59:47 -0700
- From: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
- Subject: Changing pixel depth (A)
-
- You write:
- I seem to recall that there exists some shareware that allows
- one to change pixel depth (from 1-bit to 8-bits, say) at the
- click of the mouse, but can't seem to remember what it is.
- I write:
- I use DepthGuage, which I got from info-mac (ftp to sumex-aim.stanford.edu).
- I don't know the pathname, but it's probably an "extension".
- --Joshua
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Aug 92 23:40:00 EST
- From: "UBSV01::RUSTY" <rusty@abb.com>
- Subject: CTB for HyperCard
-
- Has any seen, or know where I might get a collection of
- XCMD's and XFCN's for HyperCard that will provide access
- to the Communications Tool Box (CTB). I'v tried APDA, they
- only have "raw serial port" support or I can get the CTB
- developer's kit, but I'd really like a combination of the two.
- I'm more interested in the HyperCard ap[plication in this case
- and not having to put too much effort into the "goop" below.
-
- The newest APDA catalog (Aug 1992) lists a product called
- "CommsTalk for HyperCard Developer Kit", the price is a bit
- stiff, $245, but I can't tell if its what I'm looking for.
- Any experience with this product ?
-
- Rusty Rowell
- rusty@abb.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Aug 1992 18:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
- From: irilyth@FENRIS.CLAREMONT.EDU (Josh Smith)
- Subject: Disk Protection Software
-
- We're looking into finding some software to lock down the hard drives of the
- Macs in our labs here at Harvey Mudd, something on the order of FileGuard or
- FolderBolt. I've encountered the former (as a user, not an administrator),
- and our Microcomputing Lab Manager has used the latter extensively, but we
- wondered if anyone who had used both could provide a comparison of the two,
- or if others who had used either could send comments on their experiences.
- Pointers to prior articles on the topic are gratefully accepted as well.
-
- Send e-mail to irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu, and I'll send a summary to the
- digest. Thanks!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 12:08:23 +0200
- From: andre@dutera.et.tudelft.nl
- Subject: Downloading Not the Waltons? (A)
-
- I downloaded the movies 'not-the-waltons', 'quayle_season' and
- 'cary-n-jon-morph'. Fetch didn't work in automatic mode, I had to GET it
- binary and then convert it using the MacBinary utility. For those of you
- unable GET it binary I have converted them to HQX and posted them to an
- anonymous ftp server. You can find them at:
-
- ip = 130.161.145.137 in directory /pub/mac/archive/quicktime
-
- Have Fun!
-
- Andre'
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 01:04:10 EST
- From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
- Subject: Downloading Not the Waltons? (C)
-
- On Mon, 24 Aug 92 07:38:25 PDT you said:
- >Like other people, I have downloaded Not the Waltons, the QuickTime
- >movie, only to find that it won't run. I used MacBinary Kermit. Is
- >there some other setting I should have used.
-
- Binary BEFORE ftp from ftp.apple.com to your local host. You MUST set
- Kermit to binary on BOTH ends for your host to Mac transfer. I've had
- no problem getting Simple Player to play Not-the-Waltons (the image
- quality looks like something from a VCR though :-(
-
- /s Murph Sewall <Sewall@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:37:30 GMT
- From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
- Subject: Errors (C)
-
- wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Wade Williams) writes:
-
- >Well, first, I said it was caused by a bug in a program. I did not exclude
- >INITs.
-
- Agreed.
-
- >Second, there is absolutely nothing that prevents it from being a bug in an
- >application. INIT conflicts are always the first place to look, but out of
- >100 applications, you'd be lucky to find 5 that didn't have some bugs
- >whether prerelease or in the fifth version.
-
- In my experience, consistent repeatable crashes like the one the
- person was experiencing are due to INIT's 999 times out of 1000. I
- have almost never seen that kind of repeatable crash in a released
- application when it did not involve an INIT.
-
- >Not true at all. Inits use memory in the System Heap, not in an
- >application's heap.
-
- You haven't written too many INITs. Though the code for the INIT is
- always in the System Heap, any INIT that adds things like fancy scroll
- bars to windows or nifty additions to menus, or funky color things
- will allocate memory in the application heap of the currently running
- program. Even INITs that don't add graphical things may do this
- depending on the functionality they are providing. I have seen oodles
- of INITs that do this. Moreover, any INIT that runs in the background
- may kick in and allocate huge amounts on the stack of the currently
- executing application.
-
- >The System automatically checks every tick for the
- >stack moving into the application heap and causes a system error if it has.
-
- Of course, this doesn't help prevent against INITs that crash the
- stack into the heap at interrupt time, which is when lots of INITs do
- their dirty work, because the heap sniffer will not kick in.
-
- > *VERY* few (including commercial programs) programs handle a system error
- >of this type properly (ie with a system error procedure). Many don't
- >handle this error at all and those that do usually just let the system
- >error occur since this error is so catastrophic.
-
- But many do notice when memory is getting low with the GrowZone call
- and will say things like "Memory is getting tight. Close some
- windows."
-
- pr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:00:23 CDT
- From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <C509393@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
- Subject: F-line Instruction Crashes
-
- Thanks for the messages on F-line instruction crashes. I'm preparing a brief
- summary of solutions to this problem. I would appreciate hearing from people
- who have had F-line system crashes while NOT using Microsoft products and
- NOT using FPUless Macs. Anyone out there? Eric.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:41 N
- From: YSTAUB <89611727S%CSGHSG5A.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Faxmodems
-
- I wonder wether someone knows about a powerbook faxmodem which can
- distinguish voice an faxes. I only have ONE phone line and want to
- use my phone normally. Global Villages ADB modems have a voice/fax
- switch, i.e. the modem checks wether it's a fax or not and if not,
- you can take the call. Summarizing the faxmodem needs a line for
- the phone (like the PowerPort V.32) AND a voice/fax switch.
-
- Thank you
-
- Yuri Staub
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 07:21:12 EDT
- From: Steve Greenfield <FEATS%VTVM1.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
- Subject: GIFs of Pro Football teams (Q)
-
- I have been trying to find GIFs of professional football team logos for
- over a year now, with no success. Does anyone know of any? Thanks!
-
- - feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 92 10:46 +0000
- From: DURTSCHIR%AC%CSC@CSC.ISU.EDU
- Subject: IIsi Sound Problem (R)
-
-
- Hi All,
-
- What works for me when my IIsi's sound craps out (usually when I am
- flying in HELLCATS OVER THE PACIFIC) is to insert a floppy disk and
- eject it again. So far this has worked *EVERY* time to turn the sound
- back on.
-
- It dosn't seem reasonable that corrosion on the contacts are the
- problem when this fixes the problem.
-
- Bye for now,
-
- Ralph Durtschi, Idaho State University
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 7:53:06 CDT
- From: fjvanwet@cwis.unomaha.edu (Francis J. Van Wetering)
- Subject: ImageWriter Print Spooling
-
- Once again, an impassioned plea for assistance / direction / information.
- Does ANYONE know of a spooling program for a local, NON-Appletalk Imagewriter
- that works under System 7? Commercial software is FINE! I just desperately
- need to spool jobs so that I can have my Mac back!
-
- | F. J. Van Wetering, Ph.D. INTERNET: fjvanwet@cwis.unomaha.edu |
- | Management Information Systems BITNET: fjvanwet%cwis.unomaha.edu@UNLVAX1 |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:54:31 EDT
- From: Clare Durst <CCD@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
- Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #203
-
- Congratulations to the guys who are putting together the CD-rom. Since
- getting involved with pcs (various kinds) about 8-9 years ago, I have
- always been enamoured of the shareware concept: make available to others
- what you yourself would like to see available, and charge a fair (but
- not exhorbitant) price, with a try-out time if possible. Although I'm not
- likely to BUY one of these since it's easy for me to connect to info-mac`
- with FTP, I think it's a great idea! Thanks for thinking of it!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:33:32 GMT
- From: Stan Kerr <stankerr@uiuc.edu>
- Subject: Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean?
-
- I'm upgrading memory on my IIcx and now need to know if all sorts of things
- are 32-bit clean. Superpaint 3.0 died with a bus error when I ran it in
- 32-bit mode, so I presume it's not clean. Does anyone have the official word
- on that, and whether (and how) I can upgrade to a clean version?
- ---------
- Stan Kerr Computing and Communications Services Office
- U of Illinois/Urbana stankerr@uiuc.edu (217)333-5217
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 92 15:12:36 MST
- From: "John Peterson" <PETERSOJ@ucs.byu.edu>
- Subject: LaserWriter IIg zones...
-
- Excuse me if this has been asked here before...I don't frequent this list.
- We have a LaserWriter IIg with EtherTalk (Friendly-net :-) and would like it
- to show up in something other than the default zone on an extended phase 2
- network with multiple zones. I've perused the (somewhat sparce)
- documentation and can find nothing. Anyone run into this problem?
-
- Thanks in advance for your help and please respond to me directly.
-
- John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University
- Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu Phone: (801) 378-5007
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:28:47 bst
- From: Mark Elliott <M.C.Elliott@lut.ac.uk>
- Subject: mac.archive.umich.edu (Q)
-
- does anyone know when the mac archive at mac.archive.umich.edu
- will resume normal service ? i can now login again, but my local
- machine tells me that the remote system type is unknown, and
- can't find any files !
-
- thanks
-
- Mark Elliott
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 09:57:18 EDT
- From: Doug Larrick (HLO2-3/N2; DTN 225-6017) 25-Aug-1992 0957
- <larrick@cadsys.enet.dec.com>
- Subject: MacTools 2.0 Backup
-
- I backed up my hard disk with MacTools 2.0's Backup the other night,
- and noticed something odd going on: the "current application" icon
- would switch back & forth between Backup and the Finder. Then I
- realized what was going on: Backup is using AppleEvents to control
- the Finder to do things like format the disks! Cool stuff!
-
- What's not so cool is that my upper 800K drive (2-drive SE) broke
- in the process. It won't format or read disks. I guess it doesn't owe
- me anything--it's 5 years old, with pretty heavy use. Would someone
- with Larry Pina's _Macintosh Repair Secrets_ book tell me if it
- has a section on floppy disk drive repair? My budget for this
- repair is small. I have one working drive still, but if I can fix
- the other one, I will. But I'm not willing to spend a lot of money,
- since I plan to replace the computer in 6 months anyway.
-
- -Doug Larrick
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:40:27 -0400 (EDT)
- From: "Kevin R. Walker" <kw27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: ModVoicer comments...
-
- This post is just to announce a real address for me (Kip Walker) the author
- of ModVoicer - a tiny Mac app that lets you mess with the sounds in Amiga
- module files...
-
- Please direct any mail to "kw27+@andrew.cmu.edu"
-
- I have gotten enough mail to consider continuing working on ModVoicer, but
- since I'm now just starting a Freshman year in college, I'm going to put off
- leisure programming indefinitely...(is that possible??)
-
- SOOOO...if there's anything you'd REALLY like to see done to the program,
- tell me and I'll make an effort, otherwise it's going to stagnate for a
- while.
-
- Thanks to all who responded originally...
-
- Kip
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:21:26 EDT
- From: mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez x8378)
- Subject: norton/mactools (R)
-
- On 21 Aug 92 22:34:58 EDT David.M.Tillinghast@Dartmouth.EDU writes :
-
- > I use Norton's SpeedDisk over the MacTools optimizer because the MacTools
- > version always quits out on me because it says there's not enough free space
- > to allow an optimization (2-2.5 Megs out of 40 megs). Norton does quite fine
- > with that.
- >
-
- MacTools Optimizer VERIFIES each file after writing it to a new location
- BEFORE
- deleting the original. It will not proceed unless it has room to put the new
- unfragmented version of the file. If you only have 2 - 2.5 MB of free space
- left on a 40MB disk, chances are pretty good that your largest CONTIGUOUS free
- space location is very small. I do not know for sure about the newest version
- of Speeddisk, but the old version did not verify it's writes this way. If it
- is still true, then that would explain this, since it could read a file's
- various fragments into memory, delete them (freeing up more disk space) and
- then writing the unfragmented version to disk. This is very risky since if
- anything interrupts SpeedDisk such as a powerfailure, then the file will be
- damaged or, more probably, totally lost. Personally, I will stick to
- MacTool's
- tried & true SAFE methods. It may seem inconvenient to have to free up more
- disk space, but you have to admit, running with only 5-7% free space is
- probably pushing it.
-
- > An additional complaint - the undelete portion of MacTools will only
- undelete
- > certain types of files. I don't think this is true of the Norton version
- > (although I could be wrong). At least I've had a lot of success with Norton
- > and some pretty obscure files.
-
- This is not true. MacTools uses two forms of deleted file recovery. The
- preferred method is to use the undelete protection set by the Mirror control
- panel. This records the physical location of every file deleted no matter
- what
- the type in advance so that you can grab it later. You tell it how many files
- to track this way. FileSaver works in a similar manner. The other method is
- to scan for data that matches recognizable patterns that indicate the file is
- of a known type so MacTools can try to rebuild it. Yes, CP Undelete comes
- with
- a preset list of 'types' of files it can scan for and recognize, but you can
- easily extend/modify this list. See page 50 in your manual it is very
- straightforward.
-
- Recovering deleted files by any utility is dependent on the file's formerly
- allocated space on the disk not having been overwritten by a new file. Again,
- with only 2-2.5 MB of free space, you leave the OS little room to avoid this
- problem. You should seriously consider purchasing more disk space or using an
- auto-compression tool such as AutoDoubler or SpaceSaver to free up disk
- space.
-
- On the subject of MacTools 2.0 in general, I have only one real complaint and
- that echo's one that Murph Sewall already voiced. The new version of Mirror
- is
- incredibly SLOW compared to version 1.2. It takes the new version about a
- full
- minute to backup my files while version 1.2 only takes 7-8 seconds! Because
- of
- this, I have decided to stick with Mirror version 1.2. This seems to work
- correctly with the rest of MacTools v2.0 tools such as DiskFix and CP
- Undelete.
- Switching between the to Mirrors will require removing the invisible CP Delete
- Tracking file, since they have slightly different formats. CP Undelete seems
- able to read either version, though.
-
- I don't use the DriveLight doo-hickey so I can't comment on that. The
- CP-Anti-Virus tools seem to work as advertised, but I turned them off for now
- for the same reason I don't use tools like Virex: It is very irritating to
- keeep getting scanning prompts everytime a floppy is put in. I feel very
- comfortable with Disinfectant and will keep CP Anti-Virus handi for the
- occasional scan only. I am satisfied with the rest of the Tools, though I
- wish
- they had decided to continue the Locate DA.
-
- Finally, the reports of the demise of FileEdit have been greatly exagerated.
- It has simply been rewritten and renamed as DiskEdit. DiskEdit has all the
- same capabilities as FileEdit did, but changes the interface somewhat. At
- first I thought this was for the worst, since FileEdit was amazingly easy &
- straightforward to use, but after twiddling with it a bit, I am beginning to
- prefer the DiskEdit interface. For one thing, I like the fact that
- double-clicking on a file in the directory window pops up a dialog that alows
- you to edit the various file attributes instead of having to select a menu
- command. Since changing FILE TYPE/CREATOR TYPE is probably the most common
- use
- of FileEdit/DiskEdit, this is a nice improvement.
-
- All-n-all, with the exception of the slowness of the new Mirror CP, I give a
- general 'thumbs up' to MacTools 2.0. I cannot vouch for whether it is truly
- better than Norton Utilities 2.0 as the MacWeek reviews imply, as I do not own
- NUM. I think both packages, from the comments on the digest have their own
- strengths and weeknesses. I will say that I have been very pleased in the
- past
- with Central Point for getting out notification of upgrades to their
- customers.
- They also have been fairly easy to get ahold of on the phone and have a fairly
- easy-to-use BBS to log onto for upgrade/fix downloading. Although I am VERY
- pleased with my only Symantec product, Think Pascal, they have proven very
- inept in the past about upgrade notifications and twice have lost track of me
- in their database even though I have, indeed registered (more than once,
- now!).
-
- I hope this info is useful. Usual discaimers apply.
-
- Mel Martinez
- The Johns Hopkins University
- Dept. of Physics
- mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:40:13 EDT
- From: Dave Virga <virgad@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL>
- Subject: PB100 & Price Club (C)
-
- Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com> writes:
- >Subject: I was lucky, PB100 & Price Club (C)
-
- >I lurked at 4 separate Price Clubs in the San Francisco Bay Area for a
- week...
- >...at 2pm, they were down to 10 PowerBooks... I'm certain that by 2:30pm all
- >30 had been sold.
-
- >We got lucky. ...Your odds of snagging a PowerBook at Price Club are very
- very
- >slim.
-
- The Sterling, VA Price Club (outskirts of Washington, DC) had at least four
- PB100's sitting on the shelf when I visited last Sunday. They started with
- about ten of them, about a week after the news broke.
-
- DC obviously has fewer Right-Brainers than San Francisco... :-)
-
- Dave
- virgad@cc.ims.disa.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 92 02:13:31 GMT
- From: arao@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Andy Rao )
- Subject: persian writing
-
- Hi everybody. I have a question. Is there some sort of software
- package public domain, shareware, or commercial that I can buy that
- will let me write in the persian language? maybe there is an
- attatchment to a popular wordproccessor such as word perfect
- or microsoft word or pagemaker that will allow such a thing? or
- maybe there is just a standalone program that does this? i want
- to be able to enter persian characters and print them out on my
- computer. I have a macintosh. please reply via e-mail as I don't
- often have access to the news. thank you very much.
-
- -andy
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 08:48 IST
- From: Michael Green <SOUGD%HUJIVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Photoshop: in & out
-
- Distinguished designers, I'm looking for tips and your experience with
- Photoshop. I am using a (friend's!) Microtek 600zs scanner to scan in my own
- artwork which hopefully will illustrate the book I'm working on. At the moment
- I'm working with RGB at 100 dpi, and because I live in a place where colour
- printing is horribly expensive, I have to go on trust as to the quality of the
- output. (On screen it looks great.) Will those 100 dpi be sufficient
- resolution when printed out? Is the Photoshop format the best to choose to
- preserve resolution? Would Pict format have equal resolution? I want to
- import the pictures into PageMaker and Canvas - are there plug-ins for these
- programs to be able to "place" Photoshop format images? Or is there another,
- cheaper, and more expeditious way to fool PageMaker so that I can get those
- images into place next to the streams of text, and get on with my work without
- further delay?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:34:00 +0000
- From: "Bob (R.B.) Summers" <bob@x400gate.bnr.ca>
- Subject: Printing Text From HyperCard (Q)
-
- Dear HyperCard Netters
-
- I need some help printing text from Hypercard. I want to print a plain text
- file using a mono-spaced font such as Courier to preserve column alignment.
- The text contains the page break character (ie, Form Feed, decimal 12, $0C).
-
- I would be nice to print the text file directly, but I don't want to call a
- separate application to do this.
-
- Right now I read the file into a variable and use HyperCard's Print command
- to do the printing. Unfortunately, the Print command doesn't respect the
- Form Feed codes, so I have to read it in a page at a time and print each page
- as a separate document. This means the user gets the "Printing Page 1"
- message appearing and disappearing for each page along. As well, the user
- gets documents from other users who print on the network in between his/her
- pages.
-
- I've tried the PrintContainer XCMD with no better results. I used to have an
- older XCMD called PrintField in the past, but I remember it printing in a
- proportional font no matter what I asked for.
-
- I suppose I could count lines until the next $0C and add blank lines to fill
- out each page, but that seems so ... so ... yeuchy!
-
- Does anyone have any ideas or know of any XCMDS that can help? Is there some
- other hex code that the Print command does respect?
-
- Thanks
-
- Bob Summers (Bob.@BNR.CA)
- Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom Ltd
- Ottawa, Canada.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 9:49 BST
- From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Problems downloading Not the Waltons, and related issues
-
- I downloaded Jon Pugh's Not the Waltons movie from ftp.apple.com and had
- absolutely no trouble with it at all! I used binary ftp and then pushed it
- >From our Vax (not even a *!%#-Unix box!) to a Mac using the MacBinary option
- in VersaTerm Pro. The movie was decoded as it came down, very impressive.
- By the way folks this is IMHO a particularly neat movie and you can even back
- it up to a HD floppy once you've finished with it, it's that compact. Maybe
- everybody who wants to make public domain QT movies should aim to produce
- such "video bites" with 1.4 Mb as an upper limit.
- Paul Brians said that Simple Player claims it's out of memory when it
- tries to play his (probably badly downloaded) copy of the movie. You could
- try just boosting the memory but in my experience this is something you
- should not need to do; with its default setting of 1 Mb Simple Player will
- happily cope with 3, 4 Mb movies complete with soundtrack. If Simple Player
- is running out of memory I think it could be that the movie's resource map is
- wrong. For example, with the 3d Shapes movie on Sumex that I've been
- complaining about, Simple Player claims there is "no movie in the data fork",
- but it WILL play it if you allot 3 Mb of memory! This is ridiculous
- considering that the file is 1.8 Mb (of which only 600k is actual movie), and
- as I mentioned in Digest 202, this is probably because the movie's resource
- fork is way too big (the authors have been notified).
- Paul's downloading problems make it an opportune time to discuss just what
- this MacBinary format is. Maybe someone could post a brief explanation of
- the format and list the correct set of options to choose when transferring
- such files. I for one would like to know if MacBinary is really binary or
- whether it's a misleading name for a special text format - I notice some
- MacBinary ENCODERS produce files of type TEXT!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 01:05:09 EST
- From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
- Subject: Quadra Crashes Continued
-
- On Monday, 24 Aug 1992 10:14:06 EDT you said:
- >Continuing the discussion on Quadra crashes, I had quite a time getting
- >my Quadra 700 to settle down. On frequent occassions, it would attempt
- >to boot, but then would immediately put up a flashing dialog box. I
- >eventually narrowed the problem down to an older version of MacsBug.
- >
- >However, I'm not completely out of the woods. It still crashes much more
- >frequently than a Mac IIfx, IIci and a IIsi running System 7 do.
-
- What horrible INITs are you subjecting your poor Quadra too? I wish
- people would quit posting these Quadra scare stories. The problem
- *might* be a hardware glitch (bad SIMM, poorly seated SIMM, cracked
- solder joint??), but MORE LIKELY the problems are software problems (I
- too found out that the Quadra doesn't like any MacsBug earlier than
- 6.2.2). I managed to weed out extensions/cdevs (very few actually) that
- gave my Quadra indigestion sometime before last November 10. I've found
- a few trouble makers since (they're easy to spot with the "what did I toss
- into the pot lately" criterion).
-
- I use a IIci by day and a Quadra by night. I'm loading the same 50+
- extensions/cdevs on both. A substantial fraction of those are
- shareware. If anything, the Quadra is more stable than the IIci, but I
- can get either to run happily for days (at least 5, I've always had some
- other reason to restart in fewer days than 6) if I don't challenge the
- Mac with "let's see what this does" :)
-
- Murph's (nearly) sure-fire formula for a stable Quadra. Limit yourself
- solely to Apple's or commercial extensions/cdevs with the exeception of
- screen savers--either don't use a screen saver at all (turn the monitor
- off when your going to be away from the Mac for any length of time), or
- use Darkside (I've heard a lot of debate on the subject. My own
- experience is that both Darkside and AfterDark will dump into the
- debugger with about equal frequency--but there's a distinct possibility
- that neither are guilty; that is, some other extension could have
- crashed and the screen saver is an innocent bystander. Nevertheless,
- all the developers I know distinctly favor Darkside).
-
- I've run exclusively 32-bit mode since last December. I haven't turned
- the caches off since I downloaded Alysis's compatibility cdev (which has
- disappeared from sumex but is available from mac.archive.umich.edu -
- /mac/system.extensions/cdev/compatibility2.2.cpt.hqx If you find a DA
- or an app that doesn't like the '040 use Compatibility until you can get
- the software updated.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 23:13:46 CST
- From: GR4486@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
- Subject: Radius PIVOT and MacDraw Pro and Kermit .99
-
- We are having problems on the Radius PIVOT (gray) with Macdraw Pro:
- Whenever the "T" (text tool) is selected, the screen freezes. Other
- graphic tools behave OK. Does anyone have similar experience?
-
- Also I tried the new Kermit on the same machine and the menubar was
- frozen.
-
- System configuration: Mac IIsi, 5 meg RAM, System 6.0.7, multifinder.
-
- Thanks for any hints.
-
- Jack
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:34:32 -0400
- From: "Arel Y. Weisberg" <weisberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
- Subject: RAM expansion on the Quadra 950
-
- My lab is considering purchasing a Quadra 950. I read that it has 12
- memory expansion slots. When adding RAM, do I have to fill all 12 slots
- at once? What is the most RAM that I can add? Is there a system limit
- beyond which all the remaining RAM could only be used as a RAM disk? We
- are interested in having around 40 megs of physical RAM in our system.
-
- Many thanks for your help,
-
- Arel Weisberg
- weisberg@phoenix.princeton.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:50:30 -0400
- From: Scott E Maxwell <smaxwell@engin.umich.edu>
- Subject: SBFix Part II
-
- Please ignore the previous message. I tried double clicking
- on the "fixer" and found out what it is for. Ah, how easy
- it is to forget to try the simple things in life ;-)
-
- Scott Maxwell
- The University of Michigan
- smaxwell@engin.umich.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 1992 15:48:24 -0500 (CDT)
- From: RHBECKER@vx.cis.umn.edu
- Subject: Suspected DeltaGraph Pro Bug
-
- The problem with generating capial letters in the Save and
- Save As boxes using the shift key is due to an interaction between
- SuperBoomerang and Directory Assistance II. I believe this is in the
- Read Me that comes with the latest Norton Utilities, or I may have seen
- it in one of the comp.sys.mac newsgroups.
-
- Richard Becker
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:59:16 CDT
- From: wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Wade Williams)
- Subject: Tech support mailing list
-
- >I suppose it could also be a newsgroup so mere mortal users could
- >lurk and pick up tips, but the primary focus would be for tech support
- >people to work together, no matter what company they happen to work
- >for. It would probably have to be explicitly stated that the group
- >wouldn't exist just for users to ask questions or overworked
- >techs would soon stop bothering to read it.
- >
- >Anyone want to set such a beast up? :-)
-
- I don't think a newsgroup would work. No matter how much you publicized
- it, you'd have constant problems with people posting.
-
- I'm not real familiar with the way listservers work, but couldn't you set
- one up that the administrator had to approve all posts? Even better would
- be one that allows subscriptions from any address, but only posts that
- match an "access file." Any from someone that wasn't tech support would be
- sent a form letter saying they are allowed to read, but not post.
-
- I'd prefer to see corporate IS and university IS personnel included in the
- "allowed" personnel as well.
-
- Wade Williams
- Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
- wadew@mail.auburn.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 08:29:45 EDT
- From: Stephen Moye <SMOYE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
- Subject: TIFF<->RIFF without ColorStudio: How?
-
- If you don't have ColorStudio (or ImageStudio) how do you convert
- between RIFF and TIFF? Does GIFconverter do this? (It is currently
- absent from the SUMEX archives, by the way). There are any number of
- utilities available on mac.archive.umich.edu: will any of these do the
- trick.
-
- Thanks in advance for any assistance.
-
- Stephen Moye
- Graphic Services
- Brown University
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:40:13 EDT
- From: Dave Virga <virgad@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL>
- Subject: Time Stamp Versions Symantec/Norton) (C)
-
- Al Bloom writes:
-
- >Is this a hoot or what? Symantec is using the time stamp for incremental
- >upgrades instead of changing the version number/date. Leslye's response
- >was her ingenuous smile and a "We don't admit our errors, do we?"
-
- This trick is a hold-over from the PeeCee world, where no facility exists to
- record the version number. Norton Utilities for DOS did this at least up
- through version 4:51 :), when I lost touch with it.
-
- Dave
- virgad@cc.ims.disa.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 01:07:49 EST
- From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
- Subject: usefulness of math coprocessor?
-
- On Mon, 24 Aug 1992 17:06:25 GMT you said:
- >What's the *real* benefit of a math coprocessor? Is it going to help
- >me if I'm wordprocessing and writing Prolog and C programs which don't
- >involve a lot of floating-point computation? The salesmen at
- >local computer stores say, "Oh, yeeeees sir, if you are compuuuuting
- >you will neeeed the coprooocessoooor." But I'm not convinced. Plus,
- >going for one means a large expenditure (in my case it would entail
- >buying the Powerbook 170 instead of the 145)...
-
- Math coprocessors do nice things for graphics as well as for
- traditional number crunching. However, your description of what you
- need suggests that you won't get much marginal benefit from an FPU. As
- the user group ambassador told John Sculley on a Compu$erve forum some
- years ago, too many dealers appear to be former (failed) shoe salesmen.
-
- If the PowerBook is going to be your primary Mac, you may want to spend
- the money on the 170 for the display rather than the FPU. If you can,
- wait until 19 October. The grayscale displays on the 160 and 180 are
- likely to a lot nicer than the one-bit displays on the current models.
- Both the 160 and 180 will have color video out. It sounds to me like
- what you want is a 160 and the new Apple 13" color monitor (for only
- about $500 more than the current price of the 145). Use it with the
- monitor most of the time but retain the capability to pick up and go.
-
- Try and find a salemen that listens to what you want to DO with a
- computer and recommends a model that matches your need. Apple offers a
- lot of models (Classic II, LC II, IIsi) without coprocessors (which can
- be added for not too much money) because the majority of Mac users don't
- really need them.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tuesday, 25 Aug 1992 09:06:01 EDT
- From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Uses for Labels
-
- Simon Kozin asked if anyone had developed interesting uses for the
- Finder's Label Menu. I don't know if my use could be considered
- as unique, but it has proven helpful.
-
- When I run into problems with extension or control panel conflicts,
- I remove (or add) the potential offenders one at a time. Sometimes
- I do this over a period of days, just to be sure that the recently
- added goodies have a time to age and settle in.
-
- In order to keep myself informed as to which Extensions or Control
- Panels when in it which order, I date stamp them with the label's
- command. I can then open the System Folder and see which items
- were added in what order and when they were added. It makes debuging
- the System Folder a whole lot easier.
-
- Jeffrey Fritz
- West Virginia University
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:27 CST
- From: "Robert E. Front" <T121267@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw>
- Subject: VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (Q)
-
- VersaTerm-Pro's edit utility is printing in Monaco 12 point
- which seems to be too large as lines are being truncated.
- How can I change the default font to CourierTT or Monaco TT
- and adjust the font size?
-
- r o b e r t
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:33 EST
- From: Fritz Morgan <FMORGAN@vax.clarku.edu>
- Subject: Were can I find RevRdist?
-
- I need to get a new copy of RevRdist. Does anyone know were I can get a copy
- of it? Also does anyone know of a package that I could use instead ? Thanks
-
- Fritz Morgan
- fmorgan@jack.clarku.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Aug 1992 15:37:16 -0500 (CDT)
- From: RHBECKER@vx.cis.umn.edu
- Subject: Why is a 105Mb not a 105 Mb? (A)
-
- In the discussion about why hard drive sizes are not what they are
- claimed to be, I have not seen the following explanation considered. The
- prefixes kilo and mega have different meanings in normal usage and in usage
- with computers. A drive with 105,000,000 bytes on it when formatted can
- be said to be a 105 Megabyte drive. However, since on a computer a kbyte
- is 1024 bytes, and a Mbyte may be 1000 kbytes or 1024 kbytes depending on
- who is doing the calculating, the 105 Meg drive can show 102.5 Meg or 100.1
- Meg as its capacity. Similarly, 80,000,000 bytes/(1024x1024) is 76.3 Megs.
- This is independent of whether there are hidden partitions as on the Apple-
- supplied internal drives and has nothing to do with the block size as
- suggested in info-mac 202.
- I hope this satisfies some of the people wondering about this
- question.
-
- Richard Becker
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT)
- From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
- Subject: WinWord -> MacWord -> PageMaker Bug
-
- Try the following:
-
- 1. Create a document in Word for Windows (2.0 or 2.0a) that contains typeset
- style single and double quotes (use the Insert Symbol feature with font
- set to "Normal Text").
-
- 2. Save this document in Word for Macintosh 5.0 format.
-
- 3. Transfer this document to a Macintosh that has PageMaker 4.01 or 4.2 with
- the MS Word 4.0 - 5.0 Import.flt installed.
-
- 4. Try placing the document.
-
- BUG #1: PageMaker will NOT recognize it as a Word file.
-
- 5. Open the document with Mac Word 5.0 (it should open fine) and save the
- document as a Normal Mac Word 5.0 file.
-
- 6. Go back to PageMaker and place this file.
-
- BUG #2: It will now be recognized as a Word file, but the typeset style
- single and double quotes will be dropped.
-
- OK, I know the workaround is to save in RTF format or save in WinWord
- format and then convert using Word for Mac, but it's still a bug that can
- be a nuisance.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 22:19:25 -0600
- From: igorl@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits)
- Subject: Zoom V.32bis ARA script
-
- >Hi, here is the official Zoom faxmodem V.32 ARA script. The one posted
- earlier
- >(V.32 Turbo) had problems with V.32 bis modems.
-
- Unfortunately, this script does not work with Zoom V.32 turbo modems.
-
- ------------------------------
-
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