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- From: mcvey@mpr.ca (Iain McVey)
- Subject: Re: Scientists as Programmers (was Re: Small Language Wanted)
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- References: <1992Aug31.170849.11927@mprgate.mpr.ca> <1992Aug31.211256.20455@a.cs.okstate.edu>
- Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 00:08:03 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug31.211256.20455@a.cs.okstate.edu> hip@a.cs.okstate.edu (HUFFMAN BRADLEY SP) writes:
- >Ha!
- >
- >You just reminded me of one of my favorite grips with "computer science",
- >every time I mention that "computer science" professors should try to
- >teach more real world problems I'm hit with the go old "We teach science,
- >not coding". Even had a professor ask me why I program in COBOL at my
- >job, dumb founded at such a silly question I said "I like to eat".
-
- My favorite question is 'what do we need to know for the exam'.
-
- What my computing science professors invariably told us was not:
- 1) what you need to know for work after university or 2) what you need to
- actually pass the exam. What we were usually told we soon recognized to
- be what you need to know for later grad courses in the subject.
-
- This is of course tongue in cheek, but the premise holds. All too often
- when 'computing science types' are hired, they are meant to be all
- around fix-it people. Handymen or women. As computing science gets
- more and more specialized, there are fewer 'general practitioners'. If
- you need someone to vectorize your algorithm, or ensure that your
- matrix ops are pivoting correctly, you need to hire someone who knows
- how to do that. Do not expect that person to know how to install
- Windows, however.
-
- Personally, I believe that most university programs are becomming so
- varied that the quality of a degree varies from graduate to graduate.
- The old half joking / half serious arts student / science student debate
- is in evidence in most disciplines. One student will have a good
- degree, have taken some challenging courses, where another will have
- taken the easy way out.
-
- Here in Canada, there is apparently a shortage of computer programmers.
- If this is the case, then there are sure to be a greater number of inept
- programmers entering the work force soon, as the lure of empty jobs
- becomes noticed, and those people rush through their degrees.
-
- - Iain -
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