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- From: mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald)
- Subject: Re: scientists as programmers (was: Small Language Wanted)
- References: <DAVIS.92Aug23010605@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1992Aug25.034553.2990@linus.mitre.org> <1992Aug25.154501.8654@colorado.edu> <1992Aug25.202307.12365@newshost.lanl.gov> <l9lrciINNb7b@almaak.usc.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:39:22 GMT
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- In article <l9lrciINNb7b@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
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- >jlg@cochiti.lanl.gov (Jim Giles) writes:
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- >>In article <1992Aug25.154501.8654@colorado.edu>, ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett) writes:
- >>|> [...] No offense to scientists, but I have rarely if ever seen a
- >>|> scientist who was a good programmer. [...]
-
- >>You must encounter a different set of scientists than I do. Most of
- >>the ones who develop code at all - that I deal with - are among the most
- >>talented programmers I've ever met. Possibly this is not common at the
- >>*.edu sites.
-
- >I agree with the original poster -- in general good scientists are
- >focussed on their application areas and simply don't invest in knowing
- >about computers. Long experience often makes them good coders, but
- >rarely good programmers.
-
- That's an odd thing to say. If you write good code, you by definition
- **are** a good programmer!! As the code **is** the program.
-
-
- >Look at the accent on fortran, for example:
- >how could a good programmer possibly use fortran?
- Why not? It (i.e. Fortran 77) is just fine for most scientific calculation
- purposes. Its not really good, it is true, for complex user interaction
- tasks. But if your particular computer has calls to non-blocking input
- and c-style output, its still doable.
-
- Doug McDonald
-
-
-
-
- It has to be the
- >case of a person who wants to get a job done and doesn't take interest
- >in the means.
-
- >There are exceptions, of course. Generally coinciding with the trend
- >away from fortran.
-
- >No .edu bias that I can see in this phenomenon.
-
- > -ans.
-
-
- >--
- >Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
-