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- From: cbettis@unlinfo.unl.edu (clifford bettis)
- Subject: Re: A "preferred reference frame"
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- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:08:31 GMT
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- hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson) writes:
-
- >The following is a science fictional excursion discussing the possiblity
- >of space-time having a preferred frame of reference without violating
- >relativity. My request is that someone tell me how we know that it cannot
- >be true.
-
- >Perhaps space-time is something like what was beleived to be the ether.
- >However, this medium of wave propagation would have the strange property
- >that an electromagnetic wave moving through it would be seen by all
- >inertial observers as having a speed c. This would take into account
- >at least the effects of special relativity.
-
- >If the above were not an impossiblity, then space time could have a
- >particular fram of reference. Then one could fictionally warp that
- >space time to send a message/traveler to another point in space faster
- >than light could reach that point. Then, the message/traveler would
- >have the time/space line of the preferred reference frame no matter who
- >is observing the message/traveler. So there would be no problem with
- >causality violations (I bleive).
-
- >That last comment promps another question: Is it true (as I think it
- >is) that if there were some prefered reference frame, then we could
- >travel from A to B faster than light without violating causality?
- >For example, assume we can send messages faster than light; however
- >everyone (and everything) agrees not to send or recieve such messages
- >unless he/she/it is stationary relative to.. say... the Earth.
- >Could there still be a violation of causality?
- >(to make it easier, assume that we could send the message instantaniously;
- >however, since no one would send or recieve the messages unless he is
- >not moving relative to the earth, instantaniously would, in effect, always
- >mean "in the reference frame of Earth.")
-
- >Thanks for any input
- >-Jay
- I don't know about causality etc. but in this sense there is a
- universal frame of reference for velocities: any observer can measure
- his/her velocity WRT the cosmic microwave background radiation. As far
- as I know, though, this has no physical significance.
- Cliff Bettis
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