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- From: wjcastre@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (W.Jose Castrellon G.)
- Subject: Big primes puzzles
- Message-ID: <1992Aug13.050021.737@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Keywords: Ackermann function/Puzzle/Primes
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- Organization: The Ohio State University,Math.Dept.(studnt)
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:00:21 GMT
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- First I'd like to thank the people that emailed me quite elegant solutions
- to the problem I posted last week. I was surprised to learn how many eminent
- mathematicias are silent netters. Thank you again.
-
- Now a puzzle that has to do with the Ackermann function and big primes:
- The Ackermann function is a computable map that grows so fast, that for each
- primitive recursive function it eventually majorizes it; it came out as a solu-
- ion to a problem of Hilbert, who asked whether all intuitively computable
- functions could be defined by a primitive recursive scheme.
-
- Fast growing functions were the essence of the first arithmetic statement (not
- directly related to logic) shown to be independent of Peano Arithmetic (Paris &
- Harrington, and yes!, naturally...Solovay has theorems in that area too).
- The following variant of Ackermann's original function is usually given
- that name:
-
- =========================================================================
- A(0,m) = m+1
- A(n+1,0) = A(n,1)
- A(n+1,m+1) = A(n, A(n+1,m))
- =========================================================================
-
- I learned of the puzzle from S.Camargo who was an undergrad T.A. at Univ. de
- Los Andes, and was taking a course in Recursion Theory. He posted a sign
- offering a 5.0 (A+) to any of his precalculus students that would:
-
- =================================================
- 1. Find a closed form for A(c,n), c in {1,2,3,4}
- 2. Decide whether A(4,4) is a prime or not.
- =================================================
-
- Of course, everybody knew the grade offer was a joke, but the question sparked
- interest among the sci-eng students, and fairly quickly a cosci major came up
- with the solution; he soon switched majors.
-