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- From: thomasc@bolyai.geom.umn.edu (Thomas Colthurst)
- Subject: Re: Empty Philosophies
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- In article <1992Aug12.223549.13128@gasco.com> fpf@cepheus.gasco.com (Frank Ferguson x3584) writes:
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- > [Personal bickering between Mrs. Ferguson & Wales mostly deleted. ]
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- >In response to my pointing out the obviously "atomistic" nature of the
- >individual in Libertarian (indeed even Lockean) thought, and the irony
- >in the fact that such a thinker would fail to understand the fundamental
- >Christian worry about the danger of wealth to the immortal soul; ...
-
- Once again I feel personally summoned to point out the diversity of
- Libertarian thought. Libertarian thought need not be more atomistic
- than any other post-Enlightenment philosophy. Libertarianism is
- tainted with materialism to the degree that we all are (if a taint
- it be!). One can be a spiritual, or even Christian, Libertarian;
- Novak (see his "The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism") has leanings
- in this direction.
-
- I must admit, however, that my personal reaction to those with "Christian
- worries" (whatever those may be) is "Who cares?" If aimless anxiety
- about immortal souls and other ghosts doesn't demonstrate the
- ethical bankruptcy of Christian thought, I don't know what does.
-
- But (one more time, boys and girls!) materialist != reductionist !=
- individualist != Libertarian. One can mix and match from the
- entire set.
-
- >... I must point out that
- >anyone who thinks Marx lacks a non-materialist, humanist side obviously
- >has not done HIS reading, and merely demonstrates his ignorance in his
- >flippant "Marx? A solution to Materialism?" response.
- >
-
- Marx's humanism is a subject of perennial and pointless debate. To the
- best of my reading, Marx was universally believed to a materialist
- during his lifetime, and later rediscovered in the twentieth century by
- Luckas and Fromm (primarily) to be a humanist. I would accuse Fromm
- of a shallow reading of Marx, but recently on sci.econ the term
- "shallow" has come to develop positive connotations.
-
- >Francis P. Ferguson
- >fpf@gasco.com
-
- -Thomas C
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