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- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:57:46 -0400
- From: Thomas Omar Smith <ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: Re: It's not a Depression because prices aren't falling?
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- david@mail.sas.upenn.edu (R. David Murray) says:
- >My grasp of monetary theory is weak, to say the least, but I thought
- >I understood that cutting interest rates as the Fed has been doing
- >was an inflationary action. I was puzzled, then, that the 'inflation
- >rate' is so low. Then it occured to me: in the Depression, we were on
- >a hard money standard, and so prices fell. Now, we are on a fiat
- >standard. So suppose real prices are actually falling so rapidly that
- >the fairly significant inflation of the money supply being practiced
- >by the Fed can just barely keep up?
-
- Well, I'll agree your grasp is weak. But it does appear to be a lack of
- education and not a lack of logic. Let me try and enlighten you a bit.
- Your mistake is that you assume that the fed changing interest rates
- occurs as a reaction to inflation. In fact, the fed is probably not
- worrying a whole lot about inflation right now. What the fed is
- concerned about is the fact that spending is way down. The theory is
- that if interest rates are sufficiently low, people will be inclined to
- borrow money and take advantage of the low rates. This increases
- spending and pulls us out of the recession. It is of limited value in
- reality, although it is a good theory.
- When inflation is high, interest rates tend to rise since future risk
- is higher. However, inflation is inversely guided by velocity, which is
- a function of spending. Therefore, inflation usually occurs when
- spending exceeds what the money supply can handle. More and more
- currency becomes necessary for transactions, and inflation results.
- Lowering rates then may help pull down inflation, or it may help inflate
- the spending trends and make the situation worse. The normal way to
- deal with inflation is to get interest rates at a level rate, and then
- decrease the money supply (usually by shutting down the mint). That
- makes the currency left more valuable, which decreases the inflation.
- Also, real prices are not falling a lot. Demand has dropped, but so
- has supply (i.e. unemployment is up). Therefore, prices should remain
- in equilibrium. The cost of producing goods has not changed, but the
- level of production has. Therefore, price maintains itself. The reason
- that there was a real drop during the depression is that producers were
- able to make significant cuts in the real price of labor, since people
- were willing to work for much less than previously. Therefore, real
- prices could drop. Also, it is important to note that despite its best
- efforts, the fed has not been able to increase the money supply by much,
- so that should tell you that your theory is incorrect.
-
- It is well worth your time to get a full grounding in classical
- economics. Otherwise, you tend to start with incorrect premises and
- follow them through quite logically to an incorrect conclusion. Of
- course, after studying economics, you may start from completely correct
- assumptions, follow them to their logical conclusions, and still be
- completely wrong.
-
- Tom the non hacker
- Kemp in 96!
- "If patriotism is the last refuge
- of scoundrels, Then environmentalism
- is the current refuge of totalitarians."
- Bob Jackson
-