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- From: hoyme@src.honeywell.com (Ken Hoyme)
- Subject: Re: Terror at 41,000'
- X-Submission-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:25:34 GMT
- References: <airliners.1993.98@ohare.Chicago.COM>
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- In article <airliners.1993.98@ohare.Chicago.COM> ak336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Dill) writes:
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- > The next part is part conjecture (the crew wisely erased the flight data
- ^^^^^^criminally??
-
- > A long legal battle took place between ALPA and the airline (Global Air?)
- > and the F.A.A. In the end, I think the pilots were exonerated..and if you
- > ask me....they saved the day!
-
- Presuming that the first part of this "urban"-legend is true (the
- breaker flip and all), I take great objections to the implication that
- the pilots were heroes and that it was smart for them to "erase" the
- flight data (actually, leave the engines on until the tape loop wrote
- over the incident information). This is tantamount to saying that a
- person who shoots another, but then gives them first-aid and saves their
- life is a 'hero'.
-
- Airplanes are designed and certificated to operate in a specific manner.
- *If* there is a way to improve fuel efficiency, the appropriate approach
- is to analyze the theory using models, then validate it in research
- aircraft with skilled test pilots and *no revenue paying passengers*.
- Then the improvement can be certified and upgraded into the fleet as
- mandated by FAA rules. All paying passengers have the right to expect
- that the crew operates the plane as designed and does not use them as
- unwilling guinea pigs for ill-designed experiments.
-
- If it is true that the crew of this plane decided to experiment with
- the airplane dynamics on a revenue flight then they are criminals -- no
- different from the reactor control operators at Chernobyl who decided to
- 'experiment' with the reactor systems leading to that catastrophe. To
- paint them as 'heroes' is a twisted view of their role.
-
- It also drives me nuts when unions go to bat for their people when they
- are so clearly in the wrong. I think it does a great dis-service to
- their credibility, and taints all members, the vast majority of which
- are trying to do a good job. (ALPA went to bat for the NWA pilots who
- were FWI from Fargo to Minneapolis a few years back, too.)
-
- Major disclaimer: My heated response is based on the assumption that the
- legend about the flap-extension incident is true. Of course, the pilots
- (I believe) denied this, blaming it on the airplane. And the lack of
- flight data for the incident period made it difficult to prove. If the
- real facts of the case were that it was a failure of the airplane, and
- nothing the crew did precipitated this incident, then I would heartily
- argue that the crew were heroes, and ALPA had every justified right to go
- to bat for them.
-
- Ken
-
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