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- From: Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu (Roger Wilfong)
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- Subject: Re: Igniters
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:34 edt
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- In Article <1993Jan21.010654.3022@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> "billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)" says:
- > Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu (Roger Wilfong) writes:
- > : >
- > : > The voltage is immaterial - as long as the current is high enough. I have not
- > : > run across any launchers where a 12 volt battery was not sufficient, even
- > : > using 22 gauge wire.
- > : >
- > :
- > : Generally, as the voltage is increased, the current increases. This of
- > : course assumes that every thing else is equal - which it isn't. You need to
- > : account for the total resistance of the circuit including the resistance of
- > : the source, wire, connectors and load. However, there is some amount of
- > : current [ actually, power I*I/R(ignitor) ] that when applied for a given
- > : length of time will initiate an ignitor. There is also presumably a
- > : threshold current below which each type of ignitor will not fire.
- > :
- > : It was the lack of that information that disapointed me.
- >
- > Agreed - the research was very poorly conducted. The person also did not
- > seem to know too much about thermodynamics. I would have been interested
- > in the energy output curves.
- >
-
- Yup.
-
- > Most people would not be interested in the threshhold firing levels,
-
- I disagree. If you are thinking of designing your own 'flash bulb safe'
- controller, this information is critical. I have never seen these values
- authoratively documented. 'Flash bulb safe' is always assumed to be just
- 'a few milliamps'.
-
- > where
- > it might take 10 seconds for the ignitor to start burning. What most of
- > the people would want to know is the current that will guarantee ignition.
-
- I agree this is also important, it dictates the power source and the
- allowable resistance in the wiring.
- > They would also like to know if there is a current that is too high. It
- > is not too likely, with the systems we use, but is possible with one of the
- > capacitive discharge systems that are used for some squibs and blasting
- > caps.
-
- Interesting information, but I agree it's not too likely our systems will
- supply too much current.
-
- >
- > It would also have been nice if the person had done some testing of just
- > how fragile the various igniters were.
-
- Yup.
- >
- > All in all, I found the articles rather useless.
-
- Ditto.
- - Roger
-