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- From: jbrandt@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt)
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:43:59 GMT
- Subject: Re: Wheel Wonderings
- Message-ID: <1460066@hplred.HPL.HP.COM>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
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- Aurelio Barranco writes:
-
- > I'm not seriously considering building such a wheel, I just want
- > to get my brain around the way you describe how a wheel works.
- > Why is the limit set by the original spoke tension when the spoke
- > itself is capable of withstanding greater loads. Forget side to
- > side forces, I'm interested in a stationary wheel or one rolling
- > in a straight line. This is all theoretical of course :)
-
- I think you are still holding on to the concept that the hub is
- hanging on the top spokes. I draw this conclusion from your comment
- that "the spoke itself is capable of withstanding greater loads".
- Yes, in tension, but the spokes are not being used as tension
- elements. They are prestressed and are being used as compression
- elements so their carrying limit is when they go slack and can no
- longer perform any structural function. WHen the bottom spokes
- become slack, the rim has no contact with the hub except by the
- relatively small lateral bending stiffness. If you don't believe
- that this strength is small you need only to take a loosely spoked
- wheel , hold it like a car steering wheel while pressing its axle
- into the floor.
-
- Buckling is a common phenomenon in long slender beams for which
- there are equations. The equations are largely governed by the
- unbraced length of the column under compression. The rim has no
- bracing when several spokes become slack so that without even a side
- load, the rim tends to bow to the side.
-
- jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
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