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- From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: JPEG compressions
- Message-ID: <74210@cup.portal.com>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:43:21 PST
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
- References: <1993Jan23.093844.27675@etek.chalmers.se>
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- >I move a lot of 24 plane pictures (raytraced) using floppydisks and am therefo
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- >e very interrested in keeping the files as short as possible. I believe that t
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- >e best compression today is offered by JPEG's but, as you all know, the JPEG s
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- >andard involves removing data on a user-based rate.
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- >I'd like to keep my pics as intact as possible so I wonder if a rate of 100 (t
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- >e maximum allowable rate) removes any data or if it just compresses? I think t
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- >at a JPEG file using compression rate of 100 still would be smaller than most
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- >ther formats, or?
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- >Any suggestions welcome!
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- > Per Flodin pflodin@etek.chalmers.se
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- If you use the 100 quality setting with a JPEG compressor you should see
- about a 5-1 compression ratio (turning a 1 MEG IFF24 into a 200K JPEG
- file). At a setting of 50 you'll see about a 10-1 compression ratio
- and at a setting of 32 or so you'll see about a 20-1 compression ratio.
- What you'll really need to do (since you have your pictures and we don't :)
- is to try compressing one at various JPEG settings and then load them
- back into you computer and hopefully be able to look at them on a real
- 24 bit RGB analog display, such as an Impulse Firecracker24 or a
- Centaur OpalVision or something equivalent, and study them carefully
- and see if you notice any loss.
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- The amount of loss noticable, even at 20-1 comression, can often be
- so little, that you'll find that much compression acceptable for
- storage. Some images will look perfectly good and others may show
- the evidence of loss... it entirely depends on the image, whether it
- has wide/broad areas of smooth gradiated color, or whether it's
- a more "busy" image or what.
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- This is really something you're going to have to mess around with
- yourself and then study the results before you commit yourself to
- JPEGging your files and then throwing the IFF24 versions away.
- But hell, floppies are cheap and you can always just store them away
- for future use if you decide that even at the highest quality setting,
- JPEG is still affecting your images visually. It'll just depend on
- how critical your eyes are and what your images contain.
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- But overall, I've found JPEG to be highly intelligent and for
- casual viewing of a JPEG-compressed image, even at 20-1, it takes
- some close study, often zooming in on an image, so see where the
- compression artifacting occured.
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- Harv
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