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- From: baruch@nynexst.com (Robert Baruch)
- Subject: Re: i/I and you/You
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.174630.21611@nynexst.com>
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- References: <ELIAS.93Jan28094600@fitz.TC.Cornell.EDU>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:46:30 GMT
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- In article 93Jan28094600@fitz.TC.Cornell.EDU, elias@fitz.TC.Cornell.EDU (Doug Elias) goes on and on:
- > Flying through the postings to this newsgroup a few days ago, i saw
- > one that took an earlier poster to task for using an un-capitalized
- > pronoun for personal reference to self: "i" rather than the more
- > conventional "I" ... the comment by the later poster was something to
- > the effect of "Go read 'Anthem'", the implication being that this
- > person needed some help in the area of self-esteem.
- >
- > i cannot respond for the earlier poster who uses this style of self-
- > addressing, but i can for myself:
- > * i -have- read 'Anthem' (and "Fountainhead", "Atlas Shrugged",
- > "Objectivist Ethics", etc., etc., etc.)
- > * i'm a devote Rational Anarchist, as differentiated from a Randite or
- > Libertarian, so we hold not a few views in common;
- > * i use the uncapitalized personal pronoun quite deliberately in
- > response to the fact that all non-self pronouns ("you", "they",
- > etc.) are not capitalized;
- > * as highly as i regard myself (my own self-love being the basis for
- > my valuation of all else in my existence), i feel obliged to place
- > the same initial intrinsic value on other selfs -- the differentiation
- > between "I" and "you" or "they" strikes me as unconsciously leading
- > to the intrinsic glorification of (my)Self over (other)Selves, and
- > my use of "i" serves to constantly remind me that these other Selves
- > are no less highly valued (by themselves) than am i (to myself ...
- > this may not be true, in individual situations, but i must assume
- > so, regardless).
- >
- > Bottom-line:
- > The use of "i" constantly reminds me to treat others with as much
- > consideration and respect as i would have them treat me....whether
- > they do or not.
-
- ...stuff deleted.
-
- It is interesting to note (correct me if I'm wrong) but the Germanic
- languages from which English is derived capitalized not only all
- pronouns, but also many (if not all) nouns. I wonder if the capitalized
- "I" is a left-over, and why.
-
- My dictionary says that "I" comes from Old English "ic". Then again, it also
- goes on to say that there "is no entirely safe course for the speaker" to choose
- between using "I" and using "me". Go figure.
-
- --Rob
-