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- From: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
- Subject: Re: Fandom
- In-Reply-To: dzik@access.digex.com (Joseph Dzikiewicz)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.155255.10197@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:52:55 GMT
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- In article <1k0r8kINNnro@digex.digex.com>, dzik@access (Joseph Dzikiewicz) writes:
- >In article <watson.727458148@capella.sce.carleton.ca> watson@sce.carleton.ca (Stephen Watson) writes:
-
- >>Note that "Earthsea" (with the possible exception of the 4th book) was, like
- >>the Hobbit, intended as children's literature (at least so I believe).
- >
- >My impression is that "Earthsea" is more for what is called the "young adult"
- >market then as children's literature. A fine distinction, I know.
- >
- >In any event, whether for children, young adults, or adults, "Earthsea" is
- >excellent. And, in fact, there are many other fantasy gems that can be found
- >in the young adult section of the bookstore. I'd also recommend "The
- >Chronicles of Prydain", five books by Lloyd Alexander starting with "The book
- >of three" and proceeding through four others. Highly recommended, and
- >excellent fantasy with the emphasis being the coming of age of the central
- >character, Taran the assistant pig-keeper.
-
- There is apparently a sixth volume that collects some short stories set in the
- same milieu, that of the _Mabinogion_. I've only seen it mentioned in offers
- from the Science Fiction Book Club, so I don't know about its general availa-
- bility.
-
- However, these have almost no sense of history behind them, are rather simply
- rollicking good tales based on Welsh myth and legend.
-
- >Also, as long as we're talking about fantasy novels, how about the spate of
- >books based on the Arthur legends? My favorites are "The Once and Future
- >King" and "The Mists of Avalon". I find that these have a significant amount
- >of depth, perhaps because they are based on real legends. (Although the
- >things TH White does to history in "The Once and Future King" are a bit of a
- >stretch. He replaces William the Conqueror with Uther Pendragon and proceeds
- >to make Arthur an early Norman.)
-
- Well, White simply made explicit what the usual treatments of Arthurian legend
- did anyway, which is to say, he moved it out of the darkness of 4th century
- Britain into the light of 12th century troubadours' songs of chivalry. (I
- liked the dates assigned to Uther Pendragon: 1066-1215.)
-
- Most of what we think of as Arthurian is derived from Chretien de Troyes and
- his confreres, based in turn on Geoffry of Monmouth, rather than on the
- _Mabinogion_. I can't address the Bradley book, since I still haven't gotten
- around to it, but Stewart's books were very interesting--G of M, Layamon, and
- _Mabinogion_.
-
- But again, none of them answer to the question posed originally: A single
- author's invention with the same feel of long history behind it, all invented.
- --
- Rich Alderson 'I wish life was not so short,' he thought. 'Languages take
- such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
- --J. R. R. Tolkien,
- alderson@leland.stanford.edu _The Lost Road_
-