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- From: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
- Subject: Re: Dwarves & Jews, Language origins
- In-Reply-To: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.155157.9702@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
- Keywords: Dwarves, Jews, Languages
- Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
- Reply-To: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
- Organization: Cisco Systems (MIS)
- References: <1993Jan21.225740.18982@spectrum.xerox.com> <1993Jan22.191155.3258@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:51:57 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.191155.3258@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jchokey@leland (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
-
- [discussion of whether or not JRRT was telling the truth when he said that
- Moria and Moriah had nothing to do with each other deleted]
-
- On the issue of evidence for the Jewishness of Tolkien's Dwarves:
-
- >If only one or two of these things were present, it would be easy to disregard
- >them as a mere coincidence. But the existence of all of them makes me a
- >little more skeptical if we aren't, like Tolkien, also supposed to think of
- >the Dwarves as Jews. There was in Nazi Germany at this time, a body of offical
- >anti-Semitic interpretations of Wagner's _Ring_ cycle, in which the evil Dwarf
- >in _Das Rheingold_ was said to represent the evils of the Jews. I really
- >can't help but wonder whether or not Tolkien might be trying to "answer" such
- >Nazi propoganda in LOTR by investing in the Dwarves certain characteristics
- >that might cause people to associate them with Jews, including having a
- >sterotype of greediness placed on them, but actually portraying them as a
- >great and noble people whose bad reputation is really undeserved.
-
- First, I think you are reading too much into this.
-
- Second, it wasn't the Nazis who first interpreted Wagner's Ring cycle as
- anti-Semitic, but Richard Wagner.
- --
- Rich Alderson 'I wish life was not so short,' he thought. 'Languages take
- such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
- --J. R. R. Tolkien,
- alderson@leland.stanford.edu _The Lost Road_
-