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- From: mjw@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Alien)
- Subject: Re: Power of races
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:00:36 GMT
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- Someone was wondering whether Frodo and Aragorn knew that Gandalf was a
- Maia. Well doesn't it say somewhere in LOTR that Frodo pauses and asks
- himself "What *was* Gandalf?" so at least at that point he did not know.
- There are no hints that I recall on the state of Aragorn's knowledge so
- speculation is free.
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- However Gandalf himself says upon his return from the fight with the Balrog
- that " I have remembered much that I had forgotten and forgotten much that was
- familiar" (or WTTE). This causes me at any rate to think that Gandalf himself
- didn't know he was a Maia (consciously) although he speaks of "returning".It
- is very like what one would expect from one who has a spiritual journey of
- some kind....
- Also Saruman doesn't seem to remember the power of the "west" (Valinor)-
- he says "The West has failed" ,he no longer considers it 'real' being
- absorbed in mundane, 'middle-earthly' concerns.
-
- Any comments?
-
- Matt.
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