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- From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
- Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,ucb.org.csua,ucb.org.ocf,ucb.english,talk.environment,comp.org.eff.talk
- Subject: Re: The Schedule of Classes
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:42:27 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
- > The administration is not paid to
- >decide how and if individuals will publish public information. When it
- >makes such decisions, it exceeds and abuses its authority. The victim
- >of such an abuse is under no moral obligation to submit while the
- >matter is decided via "normal channels".
-
- I think the partisans of both sides of this discussion are making too much
- of it, and staking out overbroad positions.
-
- For example, I think Carl's view about "public information" is too simple.
- If the information in question were the telephone directory, for example,
- it's my opinion that the street directory formed by sorting this public
- information by address constitutes, in practice, a rather annoying invasion
- of privacy. The situation under discussion is different, but the general
- argument that once a piece of information is public then anyone can do
- anything with it is simplistic. Another example: There have been several
- cases in which government agencies have successfully been prevented from
- gathering information by comparing two databases, each of which was legitimate
- in itself, e.g., state payroll vs. welfare rolls in Massachusetts.
-
- In this particular case, the university provided online schedule information
- *for the first time* last semester. They chose to make this available on a
- limited basis for the first semester (namely, only at selected locations)
- because they wanted the damage to be limited if something went wrong. This
- semester, the second semester in which the information is online at all, it
- is universally available over the net, after the success of the trial run.
-
- It could be argued that the university was needlessly timid in waiting one
- semester before opening the data to the world. But I don't think there's
- any basis to claim that censorship was at work.
-
- On the other hand, I agree with Carl's earlier post that the university
- was disingenuous in claiming that Eric's transgression was about disconnecting
- cables when the thing they really minded was the release of the information.
- That's a bad precedent. And I think that in practice, what Eric did was
- pretty innocuous, more like a practical joke than like Invasion Of Privacy.
- I suppose they were really just angry because he was so snotty about it,
- but you're not allowed to say things like that at discipline hearings.
-
- People on both sides should save their indignation for the cases that matter.
-