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- From: westerm@aclcb.purdue.edu (Rick Westerman)
- Newsgroups: alt.child-support
- Subject: Re: Indiana Welfare
- Message-ID: <C1IM5I.K09@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 13:44:06 GMT
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- > ... Lisa (lisa@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca) comments that she thinks $432/month
- > in public assistance (welfare & food stamps) for 1 adult & 1 child seems
- > low compared to Canada, California and Oregon...
-
- Lisa, please note the figures are from Indiana which in general has a lower
- cost of living than California.
-
- >
- >... (something about $148/mo in child support) ... But what about clothes,
- >school supplies, shelter, braces and (God forbid!) baseball gloves or birthday,
- >Easter and Christmas gifts? What about enough for the CP to pay for Life
- >Insurance so that there's something left to raise the kids on should the
- >unthinkable happen?
-
- There are a lot of other avenues for assistance; my family used several
- when I wasn't making much money about 5 years ago.
-
- 1) The power companies (gas, electric) have a program called "Project Safe"
- which prohibits them from turning off the utilites due to non-payment
- during the winter months. Plus you get a credit for power used. We received
- around $300 per year for a family of four.
-
- 2) The schools often have "clothes drives" where the richer students donate
- items to the poorer students. Ditto for churches.
-
- 3) The schools also have free or reduced rate lunches. Fees and school
- supplies costs (e.g., book rental) can also be waived. This can add up
- to a savings of around $30/month/kid.
-
- 4) There is public housing that has subsidized rents. I live in a relatively
- small city in Indiana and the housing is fairly nice unlike a bigger
- city like Chicago.
-
- 5) Braces are covered under Mediaid. In fact most dental/medical expenses
- can be had for free. Maybe not great quality, but low cost.
-
- 6) The baseball/softball leagues around here will waive the entry fee if
- you are poor. They will also help you find someone to donate a used
- glove.
-
- 7) On your federal income tax, you can claim an "earned income credit" (but
- only if you have children!) so that not only do you get back any federal
- tax you pay, the feds will also give you money. We "earned" about $1000
- a year (tax-free, of course) this way.
-
- 8) Occasionally the government gives away surplus cheese/milk/etc.
-
- 9) If you actually die, social security will help support the children.
-
- There are probably other freebies you can get as well. However they don't
- come walking to your door like welfare/food-stamps do (and even these you
- have to apply for). Of the above, I've used #1, #2, #3, #5, #7, #8 and food
- stamps. The others I've heard about and/or had friends use.
-
-
- >I just can't believe that anyone living in the real
- >world could honestly believe that $432/mo. is adequate for a parent and child
- >to live on.
-
- I do. Given the other items you can receive.
-
-
- >How many of you live on that for just yourself, month after month
- >and year after year?
-
- Not any more. And I'm glad. During the years when my family and I were
- dirt poor (because *both* my wife and I were going to school) we at least
- had hope for better days. So what if we didn't have a car? Or a new winter
- coat? Or lots of presents? Or fancy parties? Or vacations? We knew that
- things would get better eventually.
-
- I would hate to live a life of constant poverty without hope, though.
-
- >(Sure as hell won't pay your University tuition for long...
- >not everyone can get scholarships, you know).
-
- Get loans instead. Tuition isn't that expensive (~$1600/year around here).
- It's the cost of living for 4 people on a budget that drives one up the wall.
-
- The real killer in being poor is that you can't make any mistakes. If you
- bounce checks (at $15 per bounce), the bank doesn't care if you are poor
- or rich; they'll charge you never-the-less -- it can blow your budget
- big time.
-
- The other thing I hated was filling in all the forms on how much we made
- and why we needed assistance. I was never refused assistance, but the
- extra paperwork, extra lines to stand in, and (I think this is real killer),
- extra times I had to let "big brother" take charge of my life really bothered
- me.
-
-
-
-
- -- Rick
-
- Rick Westerman System Manager of the AIDS Center Laboratory
- westerm@aclcb.purdue.edu for Computational Biochemistry (ACLCB), BCHM
- Phone: (317) 494-0505 bldg., Purdue University, W. Lafayette, IN 47907
- FAX: (317) 494-7897
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