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- From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
- Subject: Re: Moon Dust For Sale
- Message-ID: <1993Jan6.155653.18733@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Originator: kjenks@gothamcity
- Keywords: U.S. Government funding
- Sender: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
- Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
- References: <1iaeeuINN7kq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1993Jan5.162900.14264@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> <5JAN199314212621@vx.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:56:53 GMT
- Lines: 73
-
- In reply to a seemingly-intelligent suggestion about NASA selling
- moon rocks, I, kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov, wrote:
-
- >>NASA is part of the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government. As such,
- >>it receives its funding from the U.S. Congress. Under the U.S. Code,
- >>NASA can't engage in this kind of fund-raising efforts, nor can it sell
- >>advertising on rockets, hold bake sales, or even accept volunteer labor
- >>from corporations (several of which have offered free services to the
- >>under-funded Space Exploration Initiative). NASA gets what funding
- >>Congress allows it and no more. And that funding is not enough to get
- >>us "back to the moon... this time to stay." If you have a problem with
- >>that, write your Congresscritter.
-
- In article <5JAN199314212621@vx.cis.umn.edu> soc1070@vx.cis.umn.edu (Tim Harincar) writes:
- >How does that work with NASA as a launch service? For example,
- >providing launch facilities/personell to universities who have
- >constructed payloads and purchased a launch vehicle from the
- >manufacturer. Or launching a communications sattellite from the
- >shuttle, owned & operated by a private sector corporation? I thought
- >part of the initial selling point of the shuttle was that NASA could
- >recapture its investment through the "putting stuff in orbit"
- >business.
-
- All of the "compensation for services provided" which NASA receives for
- this kind of activity is carefully done to be in compliance with the
- strict regulations Congress places on Federal agencies. I'm not sure
- exactly where the money goes in the tangled web of money sources and
- sinks, but it can't just be used to fund whatever project NASA (or the
- rest of the Executive Branch) has in mind without the approval of
- Congress. That would subvert the Constitutional power of Congress to
- fund the Federal Government. (This kind of subversion is at the heart
- of the Iran/Contra scandal, where the Executive Branch supposedly sold
- arms to Iran, then used the money to fund the Contras without going
- through Congress.) Yes, NASA does get money from providing some
- services. But there are many different "colors" of money.
-
- >What about the big RCA logo on the Delta rockets (as seen in "the
- >Illustrated Encyclopedia of Space Technology")? I hope RCA had to pay
- >for that.
-
- Under the terms of some contracts with the Government, suppliers are
- allowed to label the items they provide. This may have been the case,
- here. Under some contracts, the Government buys "launch services," in
- which case the launch service provider has more freedom to put other
- things (including logos) on their rockets. But there are limits, and
- NASA has a dozen legal departments which sort through the tangles of
- contracts, laws and codes to figure out what logos are allowed to be
- placed where and when.
-
- >I am not trying to start an arguement or anything, it just seems that
- >what you said seems to contridect some of the things I've seen from
- >NASA. And the wonderful publications - I hope you make money on those,
- >it would be stupid not to.
-
- There are always exceptions and some contradictions which can't be
- resolved. They can get messy. Sometimes, they go to court.
-
- The "wonderful publications" you refer to, like NASA Spin-Off and
- NASA Magazine, are prepared under contract from NASA. I don't think
- NASA "makes money" on any of them. But making money isn't our job.
-
- -- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
- kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (713) 483-4368
-
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- United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I
- will bear faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this
- obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
- evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties
- of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
-
- -- Standard Form 61, Appointment Affidavits, the oath taken
- by all new Federal employees.
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