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- From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
- Subject: Re: Overly "success" oriented program causes failure
- Message-ID: <2B4AF769.89D9@tct.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:14:49 GMT
- References: <1992Dec28.163339.25647@ke4zv.uucp> <2B40B0AD.5877@tct.com> <1993Jan4.172108.11375@ke4zv.uucp>
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- According to gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman):
- >In article <2B40B0AD.5877@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
- >>According to gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman):
- >>> Tzu-Pei Chen
- >>>"The design of AUSROC II was in many ways too "positive". [...]
- >>>Obviously, greater testing of each component may have shown up some
- >>>of these problems earlier. This simply highlights the very limited
- >>>resources with which the group currently works.
- >>
- >>What an obvious straw man, Gary! You picked an underfunded project
- >>[...] to beat up the well-funded DC-1 program.
- >
- >DC-1 is well funded? Last I heard MacDD hadn't found *any* sugardaddy
- >to fund it *at all*.
-
- Um, okay... that's true.
-
- >They've latched onto some SDIO money to fund DC-X, but that's just an
- >atmospheric test article, not a SSTO vehicle.
-
- And they have enough money for it so far. No guarantees of future
- funding, of course. (But then, even if they had promises from the
- government, Congress changes its priorities every year anyway.)
-
- >Their strawman paper budgets for an eventual DC-Y prototype and follow
- >on DC-1 production vehicle are underfunded by historic standards of new
- >spacecraft development programs.
-
- No doubt. But "historic standards" are the live-by-the-paperwork NASA
- mindset of today -- which I think everyone agrees is a more expensive
- model than, say, Kelly Johnson's skunk works. And which organization
- would _you_ choose as the core of your new enterprise?
-
- >For shame indeed.
-
- Quite. I shouldn't have claimed that DC's funding puts it out of
- danger of too little testing. Instead, I'll try asserting that DC-X
- and DC-Y are themselves the tests. After all, DC could be like NASA
- and spend all that money on CAD and simulations, and have the first
- bent metal become DC-1 (or, more likely, DC-0.5 :-)).
- --
- Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
- "you make me want to break the laws of time and space / you make me
- want to eat pork / you make me want to staple bagels to my face /
- and remove them with a pitchfork" -- Weird Al Yankovic, "You Make Me"
-