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- From: terry@asl.dl.nec.com
- Subject: Re: HICCUP Fusion
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:48:28 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec17.221424.6404@nmt.edu> houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle) writes:
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- > Is there any reason why [cavitation] couldn't be done in, say, liquid D2?
- > Would the ultrasound necessarily vaporize the D2 before the cavitation
- > process is set up?
-
- I didn't give my answer to this one earlier, but it's a good question.
-
- The UC paper gives the basic approach I'd take to answering it, which is
- that to the degree that you can keep the vapor pressure down and surface
- tension up, you should be able to get proportionately good UC effects. The
- absolute temperature (low in this case) shouldn't matter all that much
- except as it affects these other two issues.
-
- So your best bet would probably be to keep the D2 as cold as you can without
- freezing it. (Actually, that would apply to nearly any liquid at whatever
- temperature range, at least according to what I've laid out in the UC paper.)
-
- A general problem with such cold-gas liquids is that the Van der Waals forces
- that hold them together are not very intense, so that the void surface will
- tend to vaporize pretty quickly. Without specific numerical models and some
- baseline experimental data, it'd be hard to say the degree to which such
- issues would affect the final result.
-
- I'd say it would be an interesting experiment if you could set it up.
-
- I would agree that the ultrasound heating could make it hard to keep at it
- for very long, but then you might not need too many cycles just to check it
- out for luminescence and/or UC effects. You might also flow the liquid D2
- throught the chamber (preferably at a modest rate) to provide cooling.
-
- Also, you could probably get away with less intense ultrasound that might
- reduce the heating problem. That's because the Van der Waals intra-fluid
- bonds of D2 should be easier to to rupture and stretch than the hydrogen
- bonds of water.
-
- Cheers,
- Terry
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