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- From: J_FARRELL@acad.fandm.edu
- Subject: Re: Fusion Digest 666
- Message-ID: <01GT4LH9NCXE000827@ACAD.FANDM.EDU>
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:23:45 GMT
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- DROEGE@fnald.fnal.gov writes
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- >Chris Phoenix worries that possibly the Mills experiment failed because
- >there was a mercury bubbler in the calorimeter. There was a water bubbler
- >there first. But Mills said the back pressure would not be high enough.
- >There was also and oil bubbler, then the Mercury. Mills seems to me to be
- >a moving target. Whenever a careful measurement does not work, you get to
- >do something different. But his first experiment "works" if done as he
- >describes. But then you find that a more complete experiment does not work,
- >then Mills tells you to try something else ... .
- >
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- This is pure, unadulterated rubbish. Mills recommended that a recombiner
- **not** be used with the Ni/K+ system. This recommendation was based on
- his lack of success with recombiners. [This could mean that the process
- will not work with (or without) a recombiner. Or, it could mean that Mills
- had not worked out the necessary experimental parameters to get it working
- with a recombiner.] Nonetheless, Mills is now depicted as a "moving
- target" by someone who failed to heed Mills' advice and who asked Mills for
- suggestions to further his (Droege's) perception of how the experimental
- verification of this excess heat phenomenon should proceed. [Droege
- *assumes* that an experiment with a recombiner is a more complete
- experiment. He also *assumes* that if it doesn't work with a recombiner
- that it doesn't work period.]
-
- I will concede that Tom Droege has an excellent calorimeter. [Mills also
- has a very good data aquisition system and some very sophisticated
- equipment.] Unfortunately, Droege's calorimeter is not being used to full
- advantage. I remind you that Droege was getting excess heat without the
- recombiner. He attributed this heat to recombination (gas analysis by
- Mills showed little or no recombination). Recombination is a serious
- complication as long as the output wattage is less than or equal to the
- input wattage. But as I reported here several weeks ago, Mills (and
- Thermacore, Inc.) was getting several times VI [typically 20 watts in, V*I
- = 20 watts with no 1.48 *I correction, and 60 watts out]. Actually, those
- data were several months old. I am now free to say that more recent
- experiments have 2.5 watts in and 50 watts out. Once again the 2.5 watts is
- V*I (no 1.48*I correction). You are welcome to conclude that Mills is
- making some sort of error--because the details of these more recent
- experiments will not be published for some time (the older three-fold
- increase can be achieved using procedures published previously). In my
- opinion, however, no error is being made. These measurements are difficult
- at the mW level but not at the 10 W level. Droege's calorimeter could
- easily do the job, but he would have to sacrifice his recombiner. Alas,
- hard decisions.
-
- Jed Rothwell has been taking a verbal beating of late, but basically I
- agree with him--the experiment always wins in an encounter between
- experiment and theory. No exemptions are granted to any theoretician.
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- Best regards to one and all.
-
- John Farrell
- Franklin & Marshall College
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