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- From: logajan@ns.network.com (John Logajan)
- Subject: What did Droege know, and when did he know it?
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 07:21:19 GMT
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- J_FARRELL@acad.fandm.edu writes:
- >Nonetheless, Mills is now depicted as a "moving
- >target" by someone who failed to heed Mills' advice and who asked Mills for
- >suggestions to further his (Droege's) perception of how the experimental
- >verification of this excess heat phenomenon should proceed.
-
- Droege did in fact duplicate the Mills experiment and results and so posted
- those results here. He then went on to throw additional curves at it to see
- if it would break. I think his experimental variations are much more difficult
- to pass off than you are letting on.
-
- To reiterate, he (Droege) *got* excess heat with a recombiner attached, as long
- as the recombiner was outside the calorimeter. Simply moving the recombiner
- inside the calorimeter (and thus eliminating the need for the 1.48*I
- "correction") made the anomalous heat disappeared.
-
- You have to recall that at that time the claimed anomalous heat was still
- less than the I*V input, and so could be explained by recombination or
- parallel current paths. In my own experiments of a few months ago, either
- recombination or parallel current paths caused a measured 23% reduction in
- evolved gases. This would have caused a mis-identification of anomalous
- heat in an open cell of the Mills type.
-
- >I am now free to say that more recent experiments have 2.5 watts in and
- >50 watts out. Once again the 2.5 watts is V*I (no 1.48*I correction).
-
- With success rates like these, you can afford to be more generous toward
- your detractors. :-)
-
- But seriously, is there any possibility of getting an independent neutral
- observer to witness this gain of 20 in operation? He could sign a
- non-disclosure agreement on technical details (he wouldn't even need to be
- given any beyond those measuring electrical energy input and temperature
- measurement.)
-
- I believe it might be a lot easier to find neutral competent observers on
- this issue than you may at first think.
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