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- From: lamoran@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L.A. Moran)
- Subject: Smart kids
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- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:52:24 GMT
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- In a thread that was discussing the value of sports and other extra-curricular
- activities, Pete Lancashire wrote,
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- "Athletics (that's what was mentioned here) can provide that along
- with other experiences that can teach him as much as any classroom
- ever could."
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- and Brian K. Yoder replied,
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- "Such as? Brutality uber alles? The superior value of social
- consensus over reason? Please explain these valuable lessons and
- why they are so terribly important. I hear platitudes like that
- all the time, but I seldom hear any kind of explanation attached."
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- As a matter of fact the value of "social consensus" and co-operation are
- important lessons that can be learned from playing team sports. Students
- can get a taste of what it is like to be part of a group and to work for
- the common good rather than the individual. Even if their parents are
- rabid anti-socialists they should recognize that this is a valuable
- learning experience. And since when have "social consensus" and "reason"
- been in conflict? I think that your prejudices are showing! (-:
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- I also believe that it is important to keep fit (I am not) and to instill
- a sense of caring for your body. There are many sports where the emphasis
- is on fitness, gymnastics for example. I find that my children have
- learned a lot about self discipline from their involvement in sports. They
- have been taught how to deal with success (ie. winning) and failure
- (ie. losing) far more efficiently than is possible by sitting in a classroom.
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- Brian, I'm sorry that you have only been exposed to coaches who do not care
- about children. They are many other coaches who are much more conscientious.
- Have you ever watched a child successfully complete a difficult gymnastic
- routine or achieve a personal best in the high jump? Have you ever watched
- a soccer team work smoothly together to move the ball to the opponent's end?
- These achievements require the development of skills that are every bit as
- important in life as the ability to parse sentences and solve differential
- equations. They are also a clear demonstration of good coaching and good
- learning. Maybe you should go to the next city wide track and field meet or
- swimming and diving competition to see what is really going on in the high
- schools. I suspect that your point of view is based on a few male dominated
- violent sports that may not be representative.
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- In addition, let's not forget other extra-curricular activities such as
- working for the school newspaper, playing in the band, belonging to the
- science club, and acting in the school play. Do I need to explain the value
- of these activities or will such values also be dismissed as "platitudes"?
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- Larry Moran
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