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- From: lamoran@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L.A. Moran)
- Subject: Dumb school administrators and parents
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- Organization: UTCS Public Access
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:51:25 GMT
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- In an earlier posting I mentioned that my two children were in high school
- and that they were involved in sports and music. I pointed out that is
- was probably not worthwhile for them to drop these activities in order
- to spend more time on traditional academic subjects.
-
- Herman Rubin writes;
-
- "FORGET THE GRADES. Unless the school is very unusual, they are
- getting a garbage education. Even somewhat bright children are
- being totally shortchanged by the imbecilic curriculum now being
- taught.
-
- But do they have any idea of the intellectual content they are
- missing? A reasonably good student is capable of learning many
- times what is now being taught in the schools without working
- very hard. Especially the basic conceptual material, which is
- even more submerged under memorization than in the past."
-
- My children attend a public high school in a suburb of Toronto. They are
- getting an excellent education - I am very impressed. Both of them are
- being challenged in school by teachers who have expanded on the basic
- curriculum for bright students. In addition their learning is not confined
- to school - they have intellectual interests that they pursue outside of
- the class room.
-
- Herman Rubin continues,
-
- "But they are being deprived of the pleasure of learning! Has it
- already gone to the point where they are no longer capable of the
- mental processes which they could do easily as small children? This
- is not facetious; the ability to think in terms of structure,
- almost totally absent in the current excuse for an educational
- system, and only recently "objectively" demonstrated as being
- present in the very young, IS beyond the capability of the great
- bulk of present school teachers."
-
- Your experience is obviously very different from mine. My children's teachers
- have been excellent. They are well paid professionals who take their jobs
- seriously. While I can't claim that they are perfect, they are at least as
- good as any other group of professionals that I have been in contact with.
- This includes University teachers, such as myself, and business types in the
- private sector.
-
- Herman, I know that you have a very low opinion of the educational system
- in the United States but I am aware of many excellent public school systems
- scattered across the country. It is not fair to criticize all teachers on the
- basis of your own experience and prejudices against publically funded
- institutions.
-
- Larry Moran
-