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- From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman)
- Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
- Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF
- Date: 8 Jan 93 03:41:32
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- In-reply-to: bashford@scripps.edu's message of 8 Jan 93 03:50:55 GMT
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- In article <BASHFORD.93Jan7194947@zippy.scripps.edu> bashford@scripps.edu (Don &) writes:
- >noah> There may be any number of reasons why nobody else has developed
- >noah> any GPL'ed "applications" yet. A large part of it, in my
- >noah> speculative opinion, is that it's a fairly new idea and most
- >noah> companies don't yet accept that it could work. Very few radical
- >noah> ideas have met with overwhelming approval at their introduction.
- >
- >Its not the newness or radicalness of the idea, its the smallness of the
- >profits to be had. The GNU Manifesto is up front about the fact that free
- >software is not as profitable as hoarded software. Very few companies
- >have any sort of social vision other than profit as their basis, so they
- >cannot be expected to produce free software unless something like a GPL on
- >a piece of code they want very much to use drives them to it. That's
- >capitalism in the pre-post-scarcity world!
-
- I have no delusions that free software will completely replace proprietary
- software as long as we have any "scarcity" at all, for precisely the
- reasons you state. But I think there might be a growing market for
- consulting-based services in which there is an advantage to GPL'd software.
-
- Take for instance Russ Nelson's GPL'd packet driver software. He sells
- support for this software and derivations. Because his software is GPL'd,
- the program gets widespread distribution, and he gets support contracts
- from people who need it. The GPL specifically works to his advantage in
- that he can get the source for any 3rd-party modifications and still have
- the right to modify and redistribute those versions for the purpose of
- support (or anything else for that matter).
-
- The reason why 3rd-party modifications are likely to occur even at the
- expense of not getting exclusive rights is that there is some interest in
- not reinventing wheels all the time. The fact that various companies are
- willing to port free software like GCC indicate that these companies think
- hoarding software is not necessarily going to maximize profits. There are
- development costs to consider as well as the attractiveness to consumers of
- software which is compatible with many other systems. Unless a company has
- an overwhelming advantage in a particular industry, consumers are generally
- smart enough not to lock themselves into proprietary and incompatible
- systems when equally-useful open standards (or widely ported versions of
- the same program) are available.
-
- In a world where software piracy is rampant, it may be that you can't
- practically maximise your profits for certain kinds of programs. In that
- case, offering quality support instead, and chucking the copying
- restrictions, may work to your advantage. If your programs are going to be
- copied anyway, you could try what Russ Nelson has done: let people copy to
- their heart's content, and hope that many of those people come back to you
- for other services.
-
- Any market can be flooded, obviously. But the present market for decent
- support of most software is not anywhere near is carrying capacity. There
- is a chance to make money from this.
-
- Crynwyr is not the only company operating primarily on support. There are
- several others I personally know of: Wingnut (Japan), Signum Support AB
- (Sweden), Cygnus Support (CA and MA), and Hundred Acres Consulting
- (Nevada).
-
- >noah> We'll see if Oleo takes off when it gets into better shape.
- >
- >Is there a WISYWYG word processor in the works?
-
- Not that I'm aware of. Mad processor in the works?
-
- Not that I'm aware of. Maybe Emacs 19 would be a satisfactory WYSIWYG
- editor if someone were to work on some pull-down X menus or something, and
- disable most of the keybindings. Some of the features in Epoch, like being
- able to display bitmaps and such in regions, would also be a good idea.
- I'm not sure if complications have caused the emacs maintainer(s) to put
- this off until version 20 of the FSF's version or not. But Lucid Emacs 19
- and Epoch have some of these features already. In any case, a technical
- discussion about how to make emacs WYSIWYG belongs in another thread.
-