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- From: noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer)
- Subject: Re: Printing to a text file
- Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:30:21 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan6.073021.15970@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
- References: <1993Jan06.000024.141036@evolving.com>
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- In article <1993Jan06.000024.141036@evolving.com> ref@evolving.com (Randy Fay) writes:
- >Several PC word processors used to have a feature called "print to
- >file" in which you could take your formatted file and print it to a
- >lowest-common-denominator text file: monospaced text, spaces for
- >indentation, etc.
- >
- >We'd like to do this so that we could keep original documents in Frame
- >format, but still be able to have straight text files available
- >on-line. Or perhaps formatted for submissing to comp.text.frame???
- >
- >CAN YOU PRINT TO FILE IN FRAME? Or is there a similar workaround?
- >
- >P.S. - SAVING to a text file is NOT the same thing. I know how to do
- >that. It leaves you with no formatting beside CRs.
-
- Well, besides printing to Postscript or HPGL or whatever format your
- printer driver uses, Frame does NOT support output for formatted ASCII
- text that practically duplicates the format of the document in ASCII.
- Saving the text to ASCII retains some formatting, indentations, and, if
- you desire, CRs for line ends. However, Frame does NOT do a very GOOD
- ASCII approximation.
-
- A couple of years ago, I thought this was not important. However, it
- would be much more convenient to have a GOOD ASCII approximation of the
- output, if only to support the on-line needs of those that DON'T have
- access to a WYSIWYG terminal/workstation. In fact, the biggest
- detractors of FrameMaker iterate this very point, over and over, in
- arguing against using Frame.
-
- Case in point: In UNIX development circles, man pages are produced
- using the man macro set of nroff, the pre-historic phototypesetting
- language. nroff output can be displayed easily on virtually any
- terminal, even an adm3 (can you say, Duh?). But, when manual pages are
- produced in Frame, we lose the ability to display those man pages on
- dumb terminals, unless we write our own filter, or modify one of the few
- crappy ones that has been developed out there. It would make life so
- much easier if we could just--somehow, someway, get a GOOD ASCII
- approximation of the formatted document.
-
- Frame SEs, are you there? Surely this couldn't be any more difficult
- than producing a printer driver. It would shut up a lot of your
- detractors too.
-
- Aaron L. Hoffmeyer
- TR@CBNEA.ATT.COM
-