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- From: wabe@ukc.ac.uk (W.A.B.Evans)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
- Subject: Re: KnifeST
- Message-ID: <2655@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>
- Date: 5 Jan 93 18:09:13 GMT
- References: <1992Dec30.091027.1@seb.se> <2648@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> <1i96npINN1lo@golem.wcc.govt.nz>
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- In article <1i96npINN1lo@golem.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
- >In article <2648@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, wabe@ukc.ac.uk (W.A.B.Evans) writes:
- >>e.g. FSCK by Georg Lohse and DLII and REORG by Simon Poole, and more recently
- >>CLEANUP by ICD and some tools I developed myself.
- >
- >Never ever use these prpgrams to fix hard disk problems,( FSCK-DLII/REORG) they
- >have more bugs that Bugs have..
- >
- I HAVE been using these quite satisfactorily for my old SH-205
- (20 Mbyte) Atari Hard Disk. These programs were developed round about the
- time that (SH-205) hard disk was the current (Atari) model and have NOT been
- upgraded to keep up with developments in later TOS'es and Hard Disks. I
- certainly would not use these on my recent ICD hard drive.
-
- Hence it is no wonder that you might find them "buggy" if you have a
- recent hard disk - but it is unfair to the original authors to call these
- "incompatibilities with more recent software/hardware" bugs. Mind you, having
- made this point, I'm sure these (like most others) do have a few bugs but
- these are NOT so frequently encountered as to render these programs unduly
- dangerous or ineffective when used with the "earlier" drives for which they
- were designed.
-
- >CleanUp it nothing like KnifeST and I found that it failed with a hard disk
- >problem, that Ataries CHKDSK3 showed up, cross link clusters..???
- >
- Both are disk repair utilities - though I agree they're not quite the
- same. CLEANUP, though hardly perfect, is, in my opinion, far more up-to-date
- than KnifeST ver 1.10. By the way, where can one get this CHKDSK3 program
- that more than one of you rave about?
- >
- >BGM Partitions, I think Atari took to long in bringing out a standard,
- >is it one,? and most other hard drive firms ended up developing there own..
- >
- As I understand things, BGM Partitions are Partitions where the
- logical sector size is other than 512 bytes ( usually 1024, 2048 or 4096
- bytes). This allows you to have partitions of much greater size than 16 Mbytes
- (or 32 Mbytes on TOS 1.4 and above). I first met the term in my ICD manual
- when I obtained my hard disk. Since you appear to have ICD's CLEANUP, I'm
- surprised you are not familiar with the term. Provided programs "look up"
- the logical sector size from the Bios Parameter Block, i.e. NOT assume it
- is 512, they should handle BGM Partitions quite satisfactorily. I'm sorry
- to say that, despite a claim by Hisoft to have corrected errors in dealing
- with Partitions of greater logical sector size than 512, I got erroneous
- statistics when I used KnifeST (1.10) to query my BGM partition (F:\) where
- the logical sector size was 1048 and size about 40 Mbytes though the same
- option worked fine on the other (non BGM) partitions.
- >
- >Does any one support BGM Partitions..??
- >
- Yes, ICD for one.
-
- Regards, W. Alan B. Evans
- [ wabe@ukc.ac.uk ]
-