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- From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
- Subject: Re: Def of a workstation (a lark)
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- Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
- Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
- References: <1993Jan3.052930.27869@wam.umd.edu>,<1i5vdmINN3ek@cs.widener.edu> <1993Jan04.155544.18325@eng.umd.edu>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:12:50 GMT
- Lines: 59
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- In article <1993Jan04.155544.18325@eng.umd.edu>, sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug
- Mohney) writes:
-
- |>In article <1i5vdmINN3ek@cs.widener.edu>, YOUNG@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (Rob
- |>Young) writes:
- |>>In <1993Jan3.052930.27869@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu writes:
- |>>
- |>>> At first I was tempted to talk about UNIX or RISC, but these
- |>>> were less than satisfactory (UNIX because he could be running
- |>>> UNIX, and RISC sounds deficient--those old M68k based Suns are
- |>>> still workstations...and then there's the 386i...)..
- |>>>
- |>>> Anyone? Come to think of it, it's pretty muddled to me, too.
- |>>>
- |>>
- |>>The bus. At least that is how DEC is differentiating their Alpha PC (yet
- |>>to debut) from their workstations. The PC will have the same chip (125
- |>>MHz) as the yet to debut low-end workstation. The workstation is
- |>Turbochannel
- |>>based, the PC EISA.
-
- I think you will notice a big difference between the seriously nice PXG graphics
- on the TURBOchannel and the PC weanie version.
-
- |>Hm. Does this mean the HP Workstations, which use EISA, are really PeeCees
- |>in disguise? :-)
-
- Probably the reason for DEC marketing making the distinction.
-
- |>Actually, a "workstation" would have the following vague and fuzzy
- |>definitions,
- |>according to the book of Moo:
- |>
- |> A) One big f@#$ing screen, which is nearly as expensive as the CPU.
- |> Don't bother braggin' unless it's 17" or better.
-
- Lots of PCs seem to be appearing with the SONY Trinitron monitor, a niiccceee
- peice of kit.
-
- |> B) Designed to be seamless-ly intergrated into Internet and can run
- |> news. :-) PC's don't count here because you have to:
- |> 1) buy an Ethernet card
- |> 2) Add drivers to run TCP/IP
-
- Which throws out VMS again since TCP/IP is an add on, since Multinet etc started
- up DEC would have a lawsuit on their hands if they bundled UCX.
-
- Mind you ont thing that peeves me. Have you noticed all the pc portables that
- don't have an ethernet card? To get a portable Pc that plugs into the net I
- would have to by something costing almost as much as a workstation, Also the
- expansion boxes for those beasties are a rip off, most only seem to have two
- slots - after you have plugged in your ethernet card you have to chose between
- the frame grabber for dirty pickys, the SCSI bus interface, the hi res display
- card...
-
-
- --
-
- Phill Hallam-Baker
-