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- From: holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: MINDWALK - An exercise in Passionate Thought
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:56:46 GMT
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- In article <memo.834818@cix.compulink.co.uk> shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
- >In-Reply-To: <1992Dec21.172430.14371@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- >
- >>The bootstrap hypothesis is dead; there are elementary particles.
- >
- >And the Earth Goes Round the Sun. (or is it that they all go round
- >the centre of gravity of the Universe, or is it that they follow a
- >straight line in a curved space time continuum - ah I just
- >remembered, due to a unified field renormalisation theory in fact
- >nothing goes round anything, as we have performed a Fourier transform
- >on the whole lot and everything is merely vibrating at its natural
- >frequency. Silly me!)
- >
- >Randall, How can you assert that a model is reality?
-
- How do you think science works if it does not refer to things as they
- are? (perhaps with some inaccuracies at any given time...)
-
- >
- >There are not elementary particles. There IS a model which accords
- >well with observation of some obscure and arcane aspects of atomic
- >physics that features concepts that are given the name 'elementary
- >particles'. But their existence is not of the same order as you or I
- >or the world we live in.
-
- Go look in a bubble chamber some time. Electrons are real. They can
- be counted and weighed. They seem to be elementary.
-
- >
- >And I alwways took you for an educated man. Tsk Tsk.
-
- I am.
-
- >
- >>Chaos has little to do with the other topics.
- >
- >Possibly not. No need to be so shirty about it. I know how family
- >christmasses can get you down though :-)
-
- Happy Hanukah.
-
-
-
- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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