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- From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
- Subject: Re: Alcos, GG1's, etc.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.011809.28154@ulysses.att.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:18:09 GMT
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- References: <1992Dec20.154615.11952@ulysses.att.com> <Bq47VB4w165w@1776.COM>
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- In article <Bq47VB4w165w@1776.COM>, bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:
- > smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
- > > I think it's more complicated than that. According to the F40PH manual
- > > I have, the throttle handle settings behaves differently when head-end
- > > power is being generated than when it's not. If it's not, the throttle
- > > controls the diesel engine speed directly, in a fairly intuitive manner.
- > > But the HEP generator requires constant RPM, so the engine has to run
- > > at the same speed all the time. In that case, the throttle handle
- > > controls the excitation of the field windings of the main generator,
- > > in order to govern the speed of the engine.
- >
- > Somehow that doesn't make sense. I'd believe "minimum" RPM, but if HEP is
- > being generated by the prime mover, how could the generator possibly require
- > "constant" engine RPM? When the train is underway, the prime mover's RPM
- > must depend on train speed and weight and on the terrain being traversed
- > (level, climbing, etc.). Am I missing something obvious? Also, I thought
- > that the throttle settings controlled the current drawn by the traction
- > motors and only indirectly the speed of the prime mover. Or does the whole
- > discussion above apply only to the function of the throttle when the traction
- > motors are disconnected?
-
- The manual doesn't explain, but my assumption is that they need constant
- RPM in order to be able to generate constant 60 Hz power. I'd post exact
- quotes, except that my manual has wandered off some time in the last
- two days. But it was most explicit -- when a unit is serving as a HEP
- source, the mechanism of the throttle is changed, and the diesel engine
- itself runs at constant RPM. Speed control is accomplished by changing
- the generator's behavior.
-
- I don't recall the exact mechanism used when head-end power is off, but
- again, the manual was quite explicit that the engine RPM could then vary.
- Whether the control of RPM is direct or indirect I'll let others speculate on.
-