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- From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
- Newsgroups: rec.photo
- Subject: Re: Photographing people; need permission?
- Message-ID: <347@metran.UUCP>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 18:57:40 GMT
- References: <1993Jan3.081946.29062@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
- Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida
- Lines: 52
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- acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
- : In <346@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes:
- :
- : What does one do in the case of a candid? If one is trying to capture
- : a "spontaneous" moment. It's not feasible to ask in advance.
-
- Right, so just take the picture! If/when they see you, act nice. If they
- become offended, leave ;-). Actually, if you can do something to calm them
- down, i.e., "Hey, it's only a camera, ok?", that might help.
-
- : How hard is it to get a model release from a stranger?
-
- That depends... Some people are more accepting than others. Some of them
- have even signed model releases before!
-
- : Do you take their
- : picture, then whip out a form for them to sign? What kinds of reactions
- : can one expect to get?
-
- I keep reading that it is more wise to get the model release first, if
- possible. I guess that is supposed to help you keep from wasting film
- if you *need* a release and they refuse.
-
- I have had pretty good luck snapping a few pictures, then approaching them
- with the *idea* of the release, that is, I explain that I would like to be
- able to use photos of them for commercial use. I ask, "Is it ok if I
- photograph you?". The answer is usually "OK". Then I ask, "Is it alright
- if I use the photographs commercially?". Usually, they want to know
- what that means, and I explain that it is to allow me to make money. They
- often want to have an idea of where the photos will appear, and I try to
- give them some idea. Then I explain that the model release doesn't give
- away permission to use their image in a defamatory or degrading manner, and
- all it really is is a piece of paperwork that shows others that I had
- permission. In other words, it is a written record that they said "OK, you
- may photograph me and sell the pictures".
-
- This has worked very well for me, but keep in mind that I have a habit of
- only approaching people who seem like easygoing types.
-
- Another thing to try is giving away free photos in return for signing the
- release. This is actually important, because it helps make the release
- legal -- releases usually start of with something like "For valuable
- consideration hereby acknowledged as received..." That's because if it
- should ever make it to court, the judge wants to see that the model received
- something in return for their "work". Otherwise, the agreement may be found
- invalid. So sending them a print of the best frame can be a really good
- idea. And it really does help them agree to sign the form if they feel
- they are getting something out of it.
- --
- Jay Ts
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