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- From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
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- Subject: Re: Celestial vs. GPS (was Re: Bermuda Trip - 7/'93)
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- Date: 29 Dec 92 21:44:17 GMT
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- bartley@spss.com (Dennis Bartley) writes:
- > You really don't have to be a rocket scientist to use Loran or GPS,
- > and with just a little thought you can tell the position it's giving
- > is in error.
-
- I think part of the problem is that most people don't understand the
- difference between precision and accuracy, and assume that just because a
- Loran shows you your position to 1/10th (or even 1/100th) of a minute it
- must be correct.
-
- Case in point: last year I was on a boat with Loran in the Around
- Long Island Race (that's not saying much; I doubt there was a boat that
- didn't have it). The "navigator" had brought his own Loran with him; a
- snazzy unit with a nice dot-matrix LCD display, course plotter function, 99
- waypoints, etc, etc. On the last morning of the race, I was doing my own
- navigation (good old visual bearings and pencil plots on a chart) when I
- noticed the Loran coordinates didn't make any sense. It took a lot of
- convincing to get the Loran owner to believe me that something was wrong.
- It wasn't until I dragged him to the chart and showed him where his box said
- we were, then dragged him up on deck and pointed to an object and said,
- essentially, "Look over there; that's Stratford Shoals Light, about a mile
- or so to the north of us. Your box says it's to the south of us. Either
- your box is wrong, or somebody moved the light since this chart was
- printed".
-
- Maybe the problem is that it *doesn't* take a rocket scientist to
- push buttons on a Loran. Any dummy can do it, which means there are lots of
- people who are fooling themselves that they know how to navigate when all
- they really know is how to hit the "on" button and read numbers, a skill
- which isn't much harder than telling time from a digital clock (and if
- telling time is so easy, why is there an entire usenet newsgroup devoted to
- it?).
-
- I remember reading a neat letter in Ocean Navigator a year to two
- back about two boats, both with mis-functioning Lorans, who managed to
- navigate jointly. Apparantly, each could get a single reliable TD out of
- their units (I think there was some chain-wide problem causing the
- flakyness), but each boat got a different line (i.e. one boat had the 9960-X
- TD while the other had the 9960-Y TD, or something like that). They spent
- the whole passage in VHF contact with each other exchanging their TD data,
- and doing essentialy running fixes. That says to me these people really
- understood navigation and the tools they had. It wasn't the tools that made
- them navigators, but the knowledge. My guess is that most people who own
- Lorans wouldn't know a TD if it bit them on their waypoint.
-
- > For those who sail offshore, it should be an essential tool to back
- > up sometimes tempermental electronics.
-
- I've only got a single offshore trip (i.e. out of sight of land for
- a whole day or more) under my belt, so I'm not much of an expert, but it
- seems to me that celestial is more than just an essential backup. If you
- don't spend several hours a day taking, reducing, and plotting sights, what
- else are you going to do to keep from going stir-crazy in the middle of the
- ocean?
- --
- Roy Smith <roy@nyu.edu>
- Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202
- NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
- "This never happened to Bart Simpson."
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