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- From: bownes@crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III)
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- Subject: Re: Down From Troy
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- Date: 31 Dec 92 15:20:38 GMT
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- From article <sz12vw+@rpi.edu>, by kasprj@jec310.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak):
- >
- > Dr. Selzer's book, subtitled "A Doctor Comes of Age", mainly deals with
- > the experiences that shaped his life while growing up - what led him to
- > become a doctor, and later, an author. But in such a process, Troy is
- > revealed as a character second in importance only to Dr. Selzer himself.
- > Selzer's Troy was a primarily Irish-Catholic industrial city, a railroad
- > junction and important stop on the route from Montreal to New York. My
- > Troy is a college town which tries to pretend it isn't one, inhabited
- > by Euromix and African-Americans, no longer a very important stop on the
- > route to anywhere. Most of the churches and the factories are still there,
- > but neither gets much use any more. Still, Selzer saw the richness in his
- > Troy just as I do in mine. (He speaks of it more eloquently, though.)
- >
-
- But Troy clings heartily to its Irish/Italian Catholic beginnings and
- you need not look very far to find them. True, the economicly less
- advantaged are more african-american than catholic, but the good old
- Irish catholics have not gone far up the economic ladder, occupying the
- boundry layers of the lower middle class and poorer blue collar working
- class. They have move on from being clothing mill workers to being the
- staple of what is left of the blue collar workforce of the capital
- district. The attitudes of the city are still dominated by this
- ultra-conservative democratic group. The catholic church is still a
- strong and powerful force in this city, effecting the way everyone who
- lives here lives their lives by manipulating everything, politics and
- politicians, landlords and hospitals.
-
- Troy has, however, changed somewhat as a manufacturing center and trade
- stop, primarily due to its status as a college town. More and more RPI
- and Sage students are staying here, often despite crippling economic
- conditions because they like it here or do in fact find jobs in local
- business that is attributable to the universities.
-
- But the manufacturing operations spun off by these startups and
- spin-offs frequently fail or relocate out of state due to statewide
- issues of taxes and zoning.
-
- Another thing that has always bothered me about Troy is the Us vs. Them
- mentality of the natives and the students or those that are perceived
- as being students. If I could count the times I've been called a
- GodD___ed RPI student, I'd be impressed. Not that I've actually BEEN a
- student @ RPI in over 10 years, mind you....
-
- ---
- Bob Bownes, aka iii "The only way I know where the train will go is when I'm
- sleeping on the tracks" -M. Etheridge
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