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- From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
- Subject: Re: Why memory costs doubled
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.212413.15066@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
- References: <1992Nov13.181714.1835@dcatlas.dot.gov> <BzzID0.1zC@fc.hp.com> <palane.725578726@pv7426.vincent.iastate.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:24:13 GMT
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- In <palane.725578726@pv7426.vincent.iastate.edu> palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane) writes:
-
- >In <BzzID0.1zC@fc.hp.com> chuckc@fc.hp.com (Chuck Cairns) writes:
-
- >> You have it exactly backwards. If dumping is allowed to go
- >> unchecked, then any country can carve out a monopoly position using
- >> government funds and/or funds from other divisions of huge
- >> conglomerates. This allows them to destroy US industries with dumping
- >> and other unfair trade practices. The artificial short-term gain in
- >> lower RAM prices is more than offset by the long-term damage to the
- >> world trading system and to US industry.
-
- >Unfortunately, market dynamics argue against you. The same line was used about
- >three years ago against Japanese companies. They raised their prices and mem-
- >ory costs shot sky-high (and they reaped a substantial windfall).
-
- Of course they did, because it wasn't stopped until late in the game.
- How many U.S. manufacturers of DRAM can YOU point to now? How many
- were there when the Japanese started dumping and leveraged their SC
- industry?
-
- [Hint: I know of only two domestic producers of DRAM. Extra point:
- explain what really happened then, what the Koreans hope to achieve by
- dumping in the U.S., and why the Japanese are now aiming to move out
- of DRAM and into ASIC.]
-
- >Guess who
- >was damaged most by the artificial shortage? U.S. computer companies who got
- >caught in the middle. Apple was particularly hard hit because they purchased
- >memory at inflated prices on the spot market.
-
- Guess who was damaged most by the dumping? Can you say U.S. DRAM
- manufacturers?
-
- >One might guess that this would lead to a Japanese ownership of the market.
-
- One shouldn't guess, and it DID lead to the Japanese having a big
- piece of the market after a number of U.S. firms went out of the
- business.
-
- >No! Can you say South Korea boys and girls? Japanese producers are being under-
- >cut by the Koreans. And if the Koreans try to use their market share to jack
- >up prices, American and Japanese (and European) producers will scalp them.
-
- Assuming there are any survivors, of course.
-
- >Memory prices deflate as a function of technology. It will be impossible for
- >any one company or country to corner the market. The moment this happens, other
- >producers will step in. Market history shows this to be the case.
-
- There is a LOT more to it than this.
-
- >>Any comments/flames by email only please, so as to not bother other readers.
- >>CC
-
- >On this, I disagree with you. This is a discussion which is very relevent to
- >all of us and I consider this forum to be appropriate.
-
- This discussion is more appropriate to sci.econ.
-
- --
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- in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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