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- From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
- Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:03:30 GMT
- Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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- In article <1992Dec28.153620.13038@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
- >Most of the computer industry believes that Windows is not a worthwhile OS?
- >I wasn't aware of this.
-
- A great deal, lad. Much of the industry has problems beleiving it's
- an OS at all, remember?
-
- >Sure it's an antique, but why is it broken? It works just fine. BTW, when
- >did this discussion shift from Windows to DOS?
-
- Since when didn't Windows require it? They might as well be one in
- the same product, if you want to run Windows.
-
- And it's more than an antique. It's an antique PROGRAM LOADER. It's
- a BROKEN OS. Period. If you make an attempt to consider MS/DOS an
- OS, you fail. That says it's broken. Except millions of users have
- been using it instead of a real one for years.
-
- What was that millions of users argument? Maybe we should all drop
- our Coherent/AmigaOS/OS-9/Plan 9 boxes and just run MS-DOS! We'll
- stick a program that has user-writable subprograms under it, and we'll
- call it Windows! NOT. MS-DOS has problems. Windows inherited them.
- OS/2 at least had the brains to realize how screwed up they were, as
- did NT, and decoupled the screwed up parts from the rest of the
- system.
-
- >And Plan 9 is supposed to replace Unix. Does that mean that Unix is not
- >a worthwhile OS?
-
- Unix is, at least, considered by most to be an operating system, so
- it's got a headstart. Unix does the job. There are millions of
- people out there who are satisfied to run just enough to get the job
- done.
-
- One couldn't even lie and call most Unix systems efficient. Does that
- make it not worthwhile? No, of course not. However, it is an
- operating system, doubtless.
-
- Windows is, in the end, a program that runs under MS-DOS and allows
- user subprograms to run under it. As a program, it's a great feat.
- As an OS, it's a kludge, a hack, and rather inefficient in some
- places.
-
- I'm not going to get into this any further, because I've said more
- than enough on the subject. Suffice to say that one would call Unix
- and Plan 9 worthwhile because they are.
-
- >It *was* always better, because Windows was moving 256-color graphics on an
- >800x600 screen, while the Amiga had 4 colors at 640x400.
-
- The air is getting thick, methinks... In the end, this argument will
- yield nothing, as it has in the past.
-
- >It wasn't slow, but it certainly had room for improvement, just like
- >everything does.
-
- Agreed. Windows NT could be one of the OSes of the decade.
- Unfortunately, it's going to miss that mark by twice as much as OS/2
- did.
-
- Greg
-
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