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- From: ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
- Subject: Re: Is Microsoft the next
- References: <1992Dec31.161210.1218@rose.com>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 09:23:08 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.161210.1218@rose.com> robert.heuman@rose.com (robert heuman) writes:
- >
- >I will note, however, that there is a substantial difference between
- >the US and Canada when it comes to MRI and other high-tech, high
- >expense facilities. In Canada ALL treatment hospitals are PUBLIC and
- >are expected to share high-cost facilities, rather than buy their own
- >where the volumes do not warrent. In the US there are a lot of high
- >tech set-ups, but primarily at PRIVATE hospitals, and the charges for
- >their use are exorbitant. Check out the PUBLIC hospitals and see if
- >the ratio of MRIs and CTScanners is any higher than in Canada. I
- >rather doubt it.
-
- Hey, ok, I will grant this point to you...but:
-
- >There is one last point to be made. Canada is larger than the US with
- >approximately 10% of the population of the US. In addition, most of
-
- Right. See, this is the problem. Canada has about the same population
- as California. What makes you think that the US tax base is capable
- of providing medical care for almost 300 million people?
-
- [...]
-
- >BTW, my son's total treatment for osteogenic sarcoma cost me C$56.00
- >including 4 operations, regular MRIs and CTScans, chemotherapy,
-
- It cost you more than that. What is your GST rate up there? 20%?
- Not to mention all the other taxes you are paying. How much in
- taxes do you pay, sir? How much of it do you think is going towards
- your "inexpensive" medical care?
-
- BTW, I hope your son got better.
-
- [...]
-
- >possible insurance would be bankrupt by now. Even with good
- >insurance at the start, their employer, particularly if small, would
- >have been dropped from a group plan insurer within a year or so,
- >leaving the parent or patient without coverage. Seems to happen with
- >a fair degree of regularity in the US.... CANNOT happen in Canada.
-
- CANNOT? What happens if your country falls upon hard times? Then
- what?
-
- Now that we've examined a few problems with the Canadian system,
- let me suggest that what works in Canada probably will not work in
- the US. A nationalized health care system increases exponentially
- in cost as the population increases.
-
- Canada's system works great for 30 million people. It would be a
- disaster if it were applied to 300 million people. You can take
- that to the bank.
-
- Besides, the US government is a lot less centralized than the
- Canadian government is. It's designed to be inefficient. Unfortunately,
- that means socialized health care in the US would cost oh, so much more.
-
- Americans are already taxed into oblivion with nothing to show for it.
- Our roads are crap, our people aren't fed, or clothed, or employed,
- or cared for, and so forth. Do you seriously think the US government
- could effectively handle health care administration? Didn't think so.
-
- Actually, the government is to blame for our problems, because they
- interfere far too much. Overregulation costs the health care industry
- trillions of dollars per year. I say totally deregulate it and watch
- costs plummet. At least reform insurance companies and force them to
- compete, and post severe penalties for fraud. [I mean *severe*, like
- 100x the amount of money involved in the fraud for fines, with no
- maximum]. Disband the FDA. That would reduce health costs enormously.
-
- Trying to use a Canadian solution to an American problem is laughable.
-
- Another thing to be considered: Canada has little in the way of
- military. I wonder how well Canada's health care system would work
- if it didn't rely on America for defense?
-
- cpk
-